In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance

[dex8425]

4 hours ago, howeda7 said:

How so? I'd say the original article is goal post moving. "If only Royce Lewis and AK had been healthy..." when one was not being counted on and the other was an unknown quantity to start the season. 

No, the original article simply states the fact that the Twins lost the 2nd most WAR to injuries of all MLB teams this year.

Miranda wasn't being counted on either. But if he was hurt, he impacts your depth. 

[USAFChief]

5 hours ago, dex8425 said:

No, the original article simply states the fact that the Twins lost the 2nd most WAR to injuries of all MLB teams this year.

Miranda wasn't being counted on either. But if he was hurt, he impacts your depth. 

Actually, the original article literally lists losing Royce Lewis as "most devastating."

 

They're listed in most to least devastating in descending order, with Nick naming Lewis first on the list (or tied with Kirilloff, depending on how you read those paragraphs.)

 

[Nick Nelson]

2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

Actually, the original article literally lists losing Royce Lewis as "most devastating."

 

They're listed in most to least devastating in descending order, with Nick naming Lewis first on the list (or tied with Kirilloff, depending on how you read those paragraphs.)

 

To be clear, I meant "devastating" as a combination of how impactful and unforeseeable they were. Losing Paddack or Buxton or Mahle certainly cost the team more in terms of projected WAR, but they were injuries we could have reasonably seen coming.

For Kirilloff's season-ending wrist surgery a year ago to basically do nothing, due apparently to some rare biological anomaly? For Buxton to suffer a freak knee injury in a wall collision? These are calamitous events to first-round picks who became top prospects and (rightfully) primary building blocks for the franchise's future.

Lewis is a born leader and amazing talent. The only reason you're calling him a bust is because he missed last year with another freak injury and the previous year due to a global pandemic. Which makes this latest setback all the more devastating. 

[USAFChief]

47 minutes ago, Nick Nelson said:

 The only reason you're calling him a bust is because he missed last year with another freak injury and the previous year due to a global pandemic. Which makes this latest setback all the more devastating. 

I call him a bust because to date, that's what he is.

He has 336 MiLB games, almost 1500 PA, of .760 OPS, with sub .700 seasons at A+ and AA. Dropped out of most prospect lists. Questions about SS. Got hurt.

He had a nice start in St Paul, and a hot couple weeks with the Twins. I hope he comes back and tears it up.

But he was drafted in 2017, and has done little. To date, a bust.

And to the article, it's hard to say his loss was in any way devastating. He wasn't even on the MLB roster until injury required it.

[ashbury]

2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

But he was drafted in 2017, and has done little. To date, a bust.

I checked on b-r.com and, to date, nobody drafted ahead of him that year has done better.

[USAFChief]

27 minutes ago, ashbury said:

I checked on b-r.com and, to date, nobody drafted ahead of him that year has done better.

You don't say!