Game Thread Twins @ Yankees 3:05 ET 9/7/22

[Azviking101]

Just now, RpR said:

Gordon is chasing crappy pitches.

He’s in the bottom 5% for chase rate. Not surprising

[h2oface]

Gordon has a bit of heroitis swinging at that pitch to K

[rwilfong86]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Joe Ryan better be ready to go about 8 innings next game 

No joke. Pagan will be the last option

[USAFChief]

7 minutes ago, Cap'n Piranha said:

I think that example serves as a pretty big nail in the coffin to the "RBI is the most important statistic in evaluating players" argument, which is the one Chief was making.  If you honestly believe RBI is the most important statistic to measure offensive performance, then you have to believe that 2019 Eddie Rosario was a better offensive player than 2019 Mike Trout.

And no, you absolutely do not need to put the ball in play with authority with RISP to get an RBI.  You can hit a bases empty homer.  You can hit a swinging bunt that just gets past the pitcher.  You can hit a duck fart blooper that falls in between 3 fielders with 2 outs.  Or heck, you can get a walk or HBP with the bases loaded, and get an RBI despite not hitting the ball at all.

Think about it this way--which player did more to help his team score a run?  The hitter who fought off 6 two-strike pitches to get a hustle single, then stole second base, and scored on a bloop single to right when he accurately read it would fall, or the hitter who hit the 74 MPH exit velocity blooper on an excuse-me swing?

It's like thinking the fullback who scores a 1 yard TD did more than the halfback who turned a 2 yard loss into a 79 yard gain.

All of those things can result in an RBI, and like your Trout/Rosario comparison, completely misses the point.

Getting a one off RBI because you blooped a single over a drawn in infield doesn't mean you've driven in runs consistently throughout the year. It doesn't mean much.

Having Miranda lead the team in RBI at 60 something in September means something.

I also didn't say RBI were the ONLY offensive statistic that matter. I just said at the end of the season they were the most important to me. Trout scored more runs than Rosario in 2019, that counts too. Just not as much.

 

[rwilfong86]

Why would Rocco challenge this? It’s clearly on the transfer.

[Aggies7]

Brainless challenge not that it matters 

[William K Johnson]

When Rocco leaves, does he take Tommy Watkins with him?

[LVTwinsfan]

Just now, rwilfong86 said:

Why would Rocco challenge this? It’s clearly on the transfer.

It was not clear

[rwilfong86]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Brainless challenge not that it matters 

The manager doesn’t seem to use his so it doesn’t surprise me

[USAFChief]

I guess there's nothing to lose, but that was a ridiculous challenge.

[rwilfong86]

Just now, LVTwinsfan said:

It was not clear

Every replay showed it clearly was in the glove and didn’t pop out until he was on his feet.

[RpR]

WHY is Palacios batting?

[rwilfong86]

Do you guys think Judge walks it off for #56?

[Aggies7]

Thanks for trying, palacios 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Joe Ryan better be ready to go about 8 innings next game 

Or two and a half times through the order lol 

[LA VIkes Fan]

Saw that coming. 

[SwainZag]

Just now, rwilfong86 said:

Every replay showed it clearly was in the glove and didn’t pop out until he was on his feet.

They have absolutely nothing to lose, so why not?

[rwilfong86]

Just now, RpR said:

WHY is Palacios batting?

They burned through their bench 

[MMMordabito]

[SwainZag]

Just now, rwilfong86 said:

Do you guys think Judge walks it off for #56?

If you think Judge even picks up a bat I have a bridge to sell you

[Aggies7]

Walking judge, obviously

[rwilfong86]

Just now, SwainZag said:

They have absolutely nothing to lose, so why not?

They lost their challenge per the crew chief, so there was something to lose.

[rwilfong86]

Just now, SwainZag said:

If you think Judge even picks up a bat I have a bridge to sell you

Nothing would surprise me at this point 

[RpR]

4 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

 

Having Miranda lead the team in RBI at 60 something in September means something.

Yeah, Imagine how many Cruz would have if he were here.

[garn from vancouver]

here comes fulmer... walk, hit, run.

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, rwilfong86 said:

Every replay showed it clearly was in the glove and didn’t pop out until he was on his feet.

Actually he never looked to have control of it, when his glove hit the ground the ball was moving around quite a bit. You never know what these umps are going to call, no need to save the challenge in the 11th, you can still get a crew review if you need it

[h2oface]

Damn, Palacios. That was a hanging slider at 82 middle middle and you weren't even close.

[wavedog]

Triple Play

[rwilfong86]

Just now, LVTwinsfan said:

Actually he never looked to have control of it, when his glove hit the ground the ball was moving around quite a bit. You never know what these umps are going to call, no need to save the challenge in the 11th, you can still get a crew review if you need it

The ball didn’t come out of his glove until he was on his feet and preparing to throw. I’m not sure what replay you’re seeing.

[RpR]

Who do the Twins actually have in left field, is it Gordon?

Hamilton is actually a good fielder, Rocco has gone nutso.