August 12, 20224 yr A big part of run-scoring is hitting with runners in scoring position. Which hitters have been doing damage in big spots and which have been filling up on empty calories? The above graph plots hitting performance with OPS (on-base + slugging percentage) without runners in scoring position on the x axis and with runners in scoring position on the y axis. A point on the gray diagonal line has equal performance with and without RISP. The further a point is vertically above the line, the better the hitter performs with RISP relative to their performance without. Those hitters are performing in important spots. The farther below the line, the more the hitter is coming up empty in big moments relative to their performance otherwise. A few things stand out: The Twins have 4 players who have hit significantly better with RISP and 4 who have hit significantly worse. As a team though, they hold a 0.723 OPS with RISP (#20 in MLB) and a 0.632 OPS with RISP and 2 outs (#28 in MLB). Ryan Jeffers has the team's most extreme splits. He owns a 0.553 OPS without RISP compared to a team-high 1.011 OPS with. Gary Sánchez has large splits as well. Carlos Correa deserves special mention. Without RISP, he's third among qualifying Twins with an 0.803 OPS. With RISP, only Nick Gordon has performed worse. Jorge Polanco has the most plate appearances with RISP on the Twins. Thankfully, he has come through with an 0.861 OPS in those crucial spots. Note that this analysis is best viewed as descriptive of past performance rather than predictive of future performance. A future tidbit will compare numbers with and without RISP in previous seasons to see if these splits carry over at all from year to year. View full article
August 13, 20224 yr As an old school guy, it begs a question or two about the new numbers. If RISP is such an important stat and means a lot for run production, why is RBI more and more obsolete as an important stat? Doesn't one lead to the other quite a bit? I would even submit RBI's is more accurate, because you can drive in runs by putting balls in play that are outs, but score someone in the process. That out reflects in your RISP numbers, but produces a run. Just wondering how others feel about the two stats and their importance.
August 13, 20224 yr Love this analysis. It’s nice to see the data proving what you think your eyes are telling your brain. A couple of observations: 1. Love to see improvement in OPS RISP. But as the saying goes shouldn’t some key Twins players should learn to walk before they even try to run? There should be a new stat: MRO - Moving the Runner Over (with less than two outs). We scored an incredibly important run last night because Polanco moved the runner on second over to third on a groundout behind the runner followed by Arraez’s bleeder through a drawn in infield. That, my friends, is called BASEBALL. Buxton’s and Correa’s MROs are probably about 0.100 each. It’s actually fairly pathetic. Forget OPS - this team could improve dramatically just by raising their MRO. 2. Think about the data above. Now think about this: Correa, Kepler, Sano, and, yes, even Buxton - $67MM.
August 13, 20224 yr I was an avid baseball fan in the 60s to 1971. Then attention followed by interest went away due to 'life'. Now retired have begun following Twins again. I can't watch them on TV as live on east coast abd choose not to have cable. Some stats are new to me and am learning them. At risk of sounding as an old grump, I question if there is improvement on two of the old basics. RBI and runs scored. I came to believe, and still think so, that these as an aggregate are rhe best indicator of offense contribution from a player. I
August 13, 20224 yr 19 minutes ago, wornsmooth said: I was an avid baseball fan in the 60s to 1971. Then attention followed by interest went away due to 'life'. Now retired have begun following Twins again. I can't watch them on TV as live on east coast abd choose not to have cable. Some stats are new to me and am learning them. At risk of sounding as an old grump, I question if there is improvement on two of the old basics. RBI and runs scored. I came to believe, and still think so, that these as an aggregate are rhe best indicator of offense contribution from a player. I Welcome to the site worn smooth. I too am an old retired guy. I started getting into analytics a couple years ago and once I knew a little more about them, I came to appreciate them as one tool to help evaluate players but certainly not “the” way to evaluate them. I still check RBI’s and ERA’s and other traditional stats when looking at players. To me, analytics have increased my enjoyment of the game, though the current trend of home runs or strikeouts has taken a lot of the strategy out of the game. Again, welcome!
August 13, 20224 yr Not gonna lie, Sanchez and Polanco having such high OPS numbers kind of surprises me. I must only be remembering when they fail.
August 13, 20224 yr RISP means zip if there if there is not a rbi; -- I.e." Player k has 78 risp at bats, he has 10 rbi -- bench him."
August 13, 20224 yr All RISP events are not equal. Getting a three-run triple in a 7-1 game isn’t the same as hitting a three-run bomb in the 9th when trailing or tied.
August 13, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, RpR said: RISP means zip if there if there is not a rbi; -- I.e." Player k has 78 risp at bats, he has 10 rbi -- bench him." Agreed, along with stringer bell, context matters. I would add to that context, not making an out leads to crooked innings. Even if a hitter doesn’t get the RBI, just getting on base without making an out is huge. Player K could have 10 rbi in 78 at-bats but got on base without an out in 30 of the at-bats, time to move him up in the order.
August 13, 20224 yr Interesting article. I think you have to look over several years to get meaningful data here. The sample sizes are just too small within one season. I think it explains how a team might be underachieving in a given year when their best players have poor results with RISP/RISP-2. But, it doesn’t say much about how those same players will perform (relative to their norm) in those situations over their careers.
August 14, 20224 yr 0-14 with RISP tonite and ended up loosing a very winable game. I think I used up a weeks worth of cuss words.
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