The Twins have 9 more games until the all-star break. How many of them will they win?

[cHawk]

The Twins have 9 more games until the all-star break. They stand at 47-38 and 1st place in the AL Central. The next 9 games will include a 3-game set in Arlington, and then a 6-game homestand where they will play the Brew Crew 2 times and the South Side Sox 4 times.

Questions for Discussion:
 1.   How do you think this 9-game stretch is going to go record wise? (Vote above)
 2.  What most heavily influenced your choice?
 3.  What are the key x-factors for this team to finish strong before the break?
 4.  (OPTIONAL) What do you think this team will do at the trade deadline and why?

[Richie the Rally Goat]

13 hours ago, cHawk said:

The Twins have 9 more games until the all-star break. They stand at 47-38 and 1st place in the AL Central. The next 9 games will include a 3-game set in Arlington, and then a 6-game homestand where they will play the Brew Crew 2 times and the South Side Sox 4 times.

Questions for Discussion:
 1.   How do you think this 9-game stretch is going to go record wise? (Vote above)
 2.  What most heavily influenced your choice?
 3.  What are the key x-factors for this team to finish strong before the break?
 4.  (OPTIONAL) What do you think this team will do at the trade deadline and why?

 1.   How do you think this 9-game stretch is going to go record wise? (Vote above) 5-6
 2.  What most heavily influenced your choice? Record of opponents and my homerism 
 3.  What are the key x-factors for this team to finish strong before the break? Run scoring consistency, and managing the bullpen. Can’t afford for the bats to go cold, or Pagan blow-ups
 4.  (OPTIONAL) What do you think this team will do at the trade deadline and why?

I think Levine trades for a solid to good setup man. Duffey has pitched well lately and the FO has history of not investing in the bullpen, I don’t think Levine will swing multiple trades or a big trade for a high end closer. They don’t strike me as valuing the bullpen much, but will address with half measure. Additional to trade, I think Winder stays up as Swing Man post all star break.

[chpettit19]

13 hours ago, cHawk said:

The Twins have 9 more games until the all-star break. They stand at 47-38 and 1st place in the AL Central. The next 9 games will include a 3-game set in Arlington, and then a 6-game homestand where they will play the Brew Crew 2 times and the South Side Sox 4 times.

Questions for Discussion:
 1.   How do you think this 9-game stretch is going to go record wise? (Vote above) 
 2.  What most heavily influenced your choice? 
 3.  What are the key x-factors for this team to finish strong before the break? 
 4.  (OPTIONAL) What do you think this team will do at the trade deadline and why?

Questions for Discussion:
 1.   How do you think this 9-game stretch is going to go record wise? (Vote above) 5-6
 2.  What most heavily influenced your choice? They basically seems to be a slightly above .500 team so I expect them to remain a slightly over .500 team over the next 9.
 3.  What are the key x-factors for this team to finish strong before the break? Off days hopefully influencing them to lean heavier on their top pen arms and let Pagan throw no more than 2 innings between now and the break. Offense not getting shutout more than 1 time.
 4.  (OPTIONAL) What do you think this team will do at the trade deadline and why? I think they bring in 1 arm (not sure if it'll be a starter or reliever, but lean reliever). I think they'll underwhelm most fans. I expect it to be a 1 for 1 trade of a major leaguer with a little control left beyond this year for a prospect arm.

[Squirrel]

1. 2 or fewer. Set my expectations low to limit the pain if it comes true, but increases the joy if it doesn't

2. Eh, just my overall philosophy when dealing with baseball and the Twins

3. Three things ... the BP, the BP, the BP ... however you want to look at it

4. I want two quality BP arms. That's what I want. What they will do? I'm not confident on anything, but hope if a trade comes, and someone currently on the team goes, it doesn't affect player morale

[wsnydes]

15 hours ago, cHawk said:

The Twins have 9 more games until the all-star break. They stand at 47-38 and 1st place in the AL Central. The next 9 games will include a 3-game set in Arlington, and then a 6-game homestand where they will play the Brew Crew 2 times and the South Side Sox 4 times.

Questions for Discussion:
 1.   How do you think this 9-game stretch is going to go record wise? (Vote above)
 2.  What most heavily influenced your choice?
 3.  What are the key x-factors for this team to finish strong before the break?
 4.  (OPTIONAL) What do you think this team will do at the trade deadline and why?

1: I voted 3-4, but think it's 4 or 5.  I voted 4 because 4.5 wasn't an option.

2: Bullpen and quality of opponents

3: bullpen, bats gaining consistency and production from youth.  

4: they're going to bring in a few bullpen arms, perhaps a starter.  they can probably use a bat, but I don't think they'll get one

Edited July 7, 2022 by wsnydes
Add "production from youth"

[ashbury]

1. They're gonna sweep.  Go Twins!
2. They're gonna sweep.  Go Twins!
3. They're gonna sweep.  Go Twins!
4. Stand pat, the roster is perfect.

[Craig Arko]

9-n, where {0<=n<=9} is the number of games they lose.

[Puckett34]

1 hour ago, Craig Arko said:

9-n, where {0<=n<=9} is the number of games they lose.

[Rosterman]

What I find so frustrating with the "short" starts is that you could anaylze better if a team "might" win or not, depending on who actually is pitching. But now it is all game by committee, and the batting has suffered...so anything goes. A abd day for one or mroe bullpen arms, and the game changes quickly.

 

[ChermesZ]

18 hours ago, cHawk said:

The Twins have 9 more games until the all-star break. They stand at 47-38 and 1st place in the AL Central. The next 9 games will include a 3-game set in Arlington, and then a 6-game homestand where they will play the Brew Crew 2 times and the South Side Sox 4 times.

Questions for Discussion:
 1.   How do you think this 9-game stretch is going to go record wise? (Vote above)
 2.  What most heavily influenced your choice?
 3.  What are the key x-factors for this team to finish strong before the break?
 4.  (OPTIONAL) What do you think this team will do at the trade deadline and why?

1) 5-6

2) a mostly healthy lineup.  Hopefully Miranda and Kiriloff continue to improve!

3) A one way ticket for Pagan to St Paul. And using some of the younger guys to fill holes in the bullpen.

4) here’s a shot in the dark - Catcher.

[Nine of twelve]

4 hours ago, Craig Arko said:

9-n, where {0<=n<=9} is the number of games they lose.

I appreciate facts. Like this. Opinions are fine, I suppose (this sentence being one). But facts are irrefutable.

[Old fox]

A sweep of the Rangers, a split with the Brewers an 3 of 4 from theCWS. Twins will make 2 trades for relievers with Marlins, Pirates or D-Backs. There’s a long shot trade with the Marlins, “A’s”, or Reds for established starting pitcher as key.

#1-My Marlin trade for Lopez or Cabrera  & Bass rrp and Twins give up either Celestinio &/or Urbana & Sabato & Cavaco & Canterino.

#2-My Pirates trade for Bednar and Twins give up Canterino & Strotsman.

#3-My “A”s trade for  Montas, Blackburn & Piscotty and the Twins give up  Martin, Canterino, Sabato & Strotsman. Piscotty as enticement for the “A”s to lessen payroll. Piscotty’s option can be turned down by the team.

. #4- My D-Backs trade for Multiple rrp and Twins give Strotman & Cavaco/or player to be named later.

#5-My trade with the Reds would be for Costillio or Mahle and would cost a combination of above prospects. 

The prices of these trades aren’t cheap but worth it . It may take   a little more from the Twins to complete a couple these trades
The Twins in relief pitchers are weak and short in numbers and may be the later part of 2023 until mlb ready.

[DocBauer]

1] 5-6 wins but I think 7 is really, really do-able.

2] We're the better team and have 6 home games. Miranda and Kirilloff are hitting well and that compliments Buxton, Arraez, Correa, etc. 

3] Keys? The offense keeps producing and doesn't waste too many opportunities. (See point 2). The pen won't be great...duh...but there will be fewer implosion.

4] The FO is going to add a pair of quality set up types, who might even have a little closing experience, similar to 2019 when they added a pair of arms without having to pay a premium. (Just no injury screw up like Dyson this time).  So probably guys on final years, with the idea of a possible re-sign. Might they pay a little more for 1 of the 2 to have additional control?

[Old fox]

A sweep of the Rangers, a split with the Brewers an 3 of 4 from theCWS. Twins will make 2 trades for relievers with Marlins, Pirates or D-Backs. There’s a long shot trade with the Marlins, “A’s”, or Reds for established starting pitcher as key.

#1-My Marlin trade for Lopez or Cabrera  & Bass rrp and Twins give up either Celestinio &/or Urbana & Sabato & Cavaco & Canterino.

#2-My Pirates trade for Bednar and Twins give up Canterino & Strotsman.

#3-My “A”s trade for  Montas, Blackburn & Piscotty and the Twins give up  Martin, Canterino, Sabato & Strotsman. Piscotty as enticement for the “A”s to lessen payroll. Piscotty’s option can be turned down by the team.

. #4- My D-Backs trade for Multiple rrp and Twins give Strotman & Cavaco/or player to be named later.

#5-My trade with the Reds would be for Costillio or Mahle and would cost a combination of above prospects. 

The prices of these trades aren’t cheap but worth it . It may take   a little more from the Twins to complete a couple these trades
The Twins in relief pitchers are weak and short in numbers and may be the later part of 2023 until mlb ready.

if the Twins win 7 & lose 2 games the record will 54-40 with 68 games to play. If the Twins go 5wins & 4 loses there record will be 52-42. So the remaining schedule of games favors the Twins. The magic number will go down proportionally too. 
The availability of FA players this fall will not change much from players who may be available now.  The Twins quality of relief pitching needs will be no more valuable then as it is now without trades. But the chance for the Twins to play in post season play may decrease or be eliminated without improving relief pitching now.

[Number3]

2 of 3 at Rangers, split with Brewers, split with 'Sox (maybe 3 of 4). At least that is what they should do. So 5 or 6 wins but real answer is "Who knows?" This team still seems capable of a long losing streak which hasn't happened yet. Was the Twins Daily post about the bullpen crew starting a fire making a salad in the club house a joke or did that really happen? If it did happen they need to add home economics (as we used to call it) to the spring training schedule.

[Mortimerkenny21]

21 hours ago, wsnydes said:

1: I voted 3-4, but think it's 4 or 5.  I voted 4 because 4.5 wasn't an option.

2: Bullpen and quality of opponents

3: bullpen, bats gaining consistency and production from youth.  

4: they're going to bring in a few bullpen arms, perhaps a starter.  they can probably use a bat, but I don't think they'll get one

This is about where I'm at. Don't think we will be able to sweep the Rangers, but they shouldn't be too tough since Walker & Cordell are gone now. And 3 of 4 with the Sox. 5 wins, maybe 6 if things go well. Has anyone brought up we could use some relief pitching help???

[USAFChief]

23 hours ago, Number3 said:

 Was the Twins Daily post about the bullpen crew starting a fire making a salad in the club house a joke or did that really happen? 

Yes.

[Squirrel]

Half way to my 2 or fewer pick! Woohoo!!  

[Number3]

On 7/9/2022 at 8:59 AM, USAFChief said:

Yes.

Good, I thought April Fools was in April. Anyway, losing the series to Texas not according to plan so now have to sweep the Brew Crew or take 3 of 4 from ChiSox.. Can't just coast into the break.

[Twodogs]

On 7/11/2022 at 7:38 AM, Number3 said:

Good, I thought April Fools was in April. Anyway, losing the series to Texas not according to plan so now have to sweep the Brew Crew or take 3 of 4 from ChiSox.. Can't just coast into the break.

Is it just me? Or does it seem like the Twins always struggle going into the break?  Maybe someone has some stats on it, but for me it's just a feeling like in the years the Twins have done well, around this time they seem to struggle and then they have a strong August to solidify their position.  Just seems like that's been what they've done.  I remember about this time in 2019 is when they lost that home run derby game to the Yankees. 

[Twodogs]

3

[Number3]

At least I was correct about the split with the Brewers. The rest was a disaster and not only did they lose the 'Sox series 3-1, they lost 32-10 aggregate and the Central is now wide open. I don't see how the Twins are much better than a .500 team the rest of the way and Wild Card is not guaranteed. Correa contract remains an unmitigated disaster and I firmly believe has crippled the team. The non playing bunch from manager up are mediocre at best and the team reflects that.

[Squirrel]

On 7/18/2022 at 1:48 PM, Number3 said:

Correa contract remains an unmitigated disaster and I firmly believe has crippled the team.

I don't get this at all and don't think this is true. Why do you think this? How has he crippled the team?