Game Thread Twins vs Guardians 6/21/22 6:40 PM CDT

[tony&rodney]

The kid has a sweet swing.

[Doctor Gast]

Alright! That's what I want to see! Good job Kiriloff!!!!!!!

[bighat]

How bad has Celestino been lately? I missed a lot of the West Coast games but his average seems to have fallen off a cliff. Haven't seen the guy with an xbh for ages it seems.

[mrtwinsfan]

  On 6/22/2022 at 12:50 AM, Aggies7 said:

What? People don’t get as excited about the #3 starter as they’ve gotten about Ryan. Unless you’re saying he’s overhyped 

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Myself i think of Ryan as a 3-4  also,  but then what is Sonny Grey really ??  

[bighat]

Ryan absolutely has to put up a zero here.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Alright Joe, let’s see a quick and scoreless inning

[bighat]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:04 AM, mrtwinsfan said:

Myself i think of Ryan as a 3-4  also,  but then what is Sonny Grey really ??  

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I've always thought of Gray as a true #3 on a good team.

[Mill1634]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:02 AM, bighat said:

How bad has Celestino been lately? I missed a lot of the West Coast games but his average seems to have fallen off a cliff. Haven't seen the guy with an xbh for ages it seems.

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Very. He has a .571 OPS in his list 14 games, and only one hit was for extra bases. I don't think we should see him start against RH when the entire OF (Larnach, Kepler, AK, Buxton, Gordon) are healthy, and don't think we will much. His role from this point forward should be a platoon option against LHP

[Mill1634]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:05 AM, bighat said:

I've always thought of Gray as a true #3 on a good team.

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Yeah, I think Gray is probably a 3 on a world series contender, and a #2 on a playoff team. There is a difference, and at this point the Twins are just a playoff team. 

[stringer bell]

One game isn’t validation or verification, but I’m pretty optimistic that Kirilloff is going to be a fine player including a middle-of-the-order hitter. 

[LVTwinsfan]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:06 AM, Mill1634 said:

Yeah, I think Gray is probably a 3 on a world series contender, and a #2 on a playoff team. There is a difference, and at this point the Twins are just a playoff team. 

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That could change by tomorrow 

[Tlaker]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:00 AM, LVTwinsfan said:

Which is why he is overhyped

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What is your definition of overhyped? What media says? Posters say? I haven’t heard anything about him being the next best……anyone?

 

[Vanimal46]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:02 AM, bighat said:

How bad has Celestino been lately? I missed a lot of the West Coast games but his average seems to have fallen off a cliff. Haven't seen the guy with an xbh for ages it seems.

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His under the hood stats on baseball savant have been mostly bad all year. It was worth seeing if he could continue outperforming expectations, but he’s regressing to the mean now. 

[9moons27]

Celestino: King of the squibbers, bleeders, and bloopers.

[Tlaker]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:07 AM, stringer bell said:

One game isn’t validation or verification, but I’m pretty optimistic that Kirilloff is going to be a fine player including a middle-of-the-order hitter. 

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Careful….you might be overhyping him?‍♂️?

[Vanimal46]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:07 AM, stringer bell said:

One game isn’t validation or verification, but I’m pretty optimistic that Kirilloff is going to be a fine player including a middle-of-the-order hitter. 

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Yeah, I think we forgot how hyped of a prospect he was in 2019. I hope he settles in as the full time 1B for the foreseeable future. 

[Mill1634]

Fantastic bounceback inning by Ryan. I would assume that does it for him. A mixed bag of a start. Didn't have great stuff, velo, or command, but he held a good lineup to 3 runs in 5 innings, and gave the Twins a chance to win. About in line with what you can ask him to do nearly everytime out, with room to grow as he gets farther away from COVID.

[mrtwinsfan]

Still scracthing this old beak thinking about this Lineup Rocco put out, ,  dont get some of his ??????

[stringer bell]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:02 AM, bighat said:

How bad has Celestino been lately? I missed a lot of the West Coast games but his average seems to have fallen off a cliff. Haven't seen the guy with an xbh for ages it seems.

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Celestino still has an insanely good BABiP, but it has regressed to the mean of late. 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Cmon Jeffers! Let’s start this off right

[Montdak]

Cleveland has an excellent pen.  Our FO has done some good things but how would Rogers look now considering the starter we got for him almost immediately blew out his arm.

[bighat]

Arraez showing some POP.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Arraez and shine!

[stringer bell]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:11 AM, mrtwinsfan said:

Still scracthing this old beak thinking about this Lineup Rocco put out, ,  dont get some of his ??????

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Two extra RH batters against a guy with reverse splits. I imagine we’ll see both Gordon and Larnach in the next two games. 

[Shaitan]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:06 AM, Mill1634 said:

Yeah, I think Gray is probably a 3 on a world series contender, and a #2 on a playoff team. There is a difference, and at this point the Twins are just a playoff team. 

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At this point it's June.

[bighat]

Three terrible ABs from Buxton thusfar.

[Montdak]

Buxton looked jumpy and bad that AB.

[Mill1634]

Sigh. Really hurts not to at least get it tied against Civale because the Cleveland bullpen is fantastic and I assume they pull Civale after that in his first start in a month. 

[mrtwinsfan]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:15 AM, stringer bell said:

Two extra RH batters against a guy with reverse splits. I imagine we’ll see both Gordon and Larnach in the next two games. 

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Got me was not putting A.K. After Sanchez b4 Urshela, suppose rocco wanted to keep all that speed of gary and gio together

[LVTwinsfan]

  On 6/22/2022 at 1:17 AM, bighat said:

Three terrible ABs from Buxton thusfar.

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Pretty good pitch to strike him out