"Handful" of Twins won't travel to Toronto

[old nurse]

11 hours ago, lecroy24fan said:

They have to bring up players to replace them, so they will announce it.

The move to and from the restricted list shows up on y transactions. The team can not announce ahead of time without getting permission from the players.  It benefits no one to announce 

[nclahammer]

15 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

He couldn't play in the United States either.

A little deductive reasoning once the Toronto series begins will answer the "who's" vaccinated or not question.  Good one on the Simmon's quote...coffee nearly shot through my nose.

[MMMordabito]

I had them losing two or getting swept anyway, so this just pushes me closer to expecting the latter. Maybe Spencer Steer will get an early cup of coffee. That could be fun. Will Cody write an article ranking the top five Twins most likely to be anti-vaxxers?

[TopGunn#22]

I think Kirby made the best point (next to tony&rodney about Simmons not being able to play in the U.S. either) this could be a huge issue if we have to play the Blue Jays in the playoffs, or, whoever has to play the Blue Jays.  

[jorgenswest]

9 hours ago, D.C Twins said:

Also, if Kepler's injury magically resolves at the exact time that the Twins leave Canada... count me as a vote for him not being vaccinated. 

???

Are you implying that he isn’t injured now? How would not playing him now with injured outfielders and a double header coming up benefit the Twins? 

I honestly don’t understand your line of though here. I must not be reading it right.

[Number3]

How they do in the 5 games in Detroit determines how important the Jays series is. Simple as that. I would like to think that winning 1 game in Toronto is perfectly fine. This is a tough run of games period and no off day including a double header makeup until a week from today.  Then its to some team in NY for 4. I just hope they win at least 3 of the 5 in Detroit and have some breathing room. They probably need to essentially sacrifice one of the Jays games depending how the pitching staff holds up in Detroit.

[strumdatjag]

12 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

Keep in mind this might not be their only trip to Toronto if each club continues winning games. 3 games in June isn't a disaster, 3 games in October might be....

[nicksaviking]

11 hours ago, D.C Twins said:

I hope a MiLB player makes the most of his opportunity and one day looks back at this as an amazing opportunity....

Also, if Kepler's injury magically resolves at the exact time that the Twins leave Canada... count me as a vote for him not being vaccinated. 

This is going to make people cranky and likely get this post taken down but...

EVERYONE has minor injuries that can be declared significant enough to miss a little time. 

So again... if he is back right after Toronto and without IL time.... I've got some swamp land in Florida for you if you are not suspicious. 

Kepler is Day to Day, unless they put him on the IL, he would be traveling with the team, so they won't be able to hide anything if he's a no-show in Canada. Besides, I don't imagine the team is going to bend over backwards to help the guys who are actively hurting the team.

And the league would be all over phony IL usage. This is going to be an issue with all teams so they aren't going to let the Twins play by different rules. 

 

[GCTF]

A quick check shows Kepler played the games in Toronto last season. As did. Buxton, Polanco, Arraez, Gordon and Jeffers. Also looked to see if Correa played there with Houston. He did.

[Squirrel]

15 minutes ago, GCTF said:

A quick check shows Kepler played the games in Toronto last season. As did. Buxton, Polanco, Arraez, Gordon and Jeffers. Also looked to see if Correa played there with Houston. He did.

Sanchez and Urshela also played in Toronto last year with the Yankees.

But, it doesn’t really matter who, if Souhan is correct in that there are 5 players who cannot go to Canada, that is a lot to replace on top of all who are on the IL already.

[Squirrel]

31 minutes ago, GCTF said:

A quick check shows Kepler played the games in Toronto last season. As did. Buxton, Polanco, Arraez, Gordon and Jeffers. Also looked to see if Correa played there with Houston. He did.

 

16 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

Sanchez and Urshela also played in Toronto last year with the Yankees.

But, it doesn’t really matter who, if Souhan is correct in that there are 5 players who cannot go to Canada, that is a lot to replace on top of all who are on the IL already.

Researched a little … there was an exemption last year for unvaccinated players of MLB. They were allowed to play last year in Canada, but that exemption ended in January, so this year is different and unvaccinated players are actually barred from entering the country which is different from last year. Simmons not going to Canada last year was not related to his vaccination status, but because of a visa status (he was in the process of applying for U.S. citizenship and wasn’t allowed to leave the country.)

So, the 5 could be anyone. According to Reuse, it’s 4 pitchers and 1 position player. If true, 4 pitchers really hurts.

[FlyingFinn]

4 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

So, the 5 could be anyone. According to Reuse, it’s 4 pitchers and 1 position player. If true, 4 pitchers really hurts.

Wow, Derek Rodriguez and Chi Chi Gonzalez almost surely get called up then. Start out poorly in one game and you tell them to take one for the team. Ian Hamilton has to be one to come up as he continues to pitch great. I would call up Canterino. Otherwise, take your pick from AAA, maybe Cano.

[Craig Arko]

9 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

 

Researched a little … there was an exemption last year for unvaccinated players of MLB. They were allowed to play last year in Canada, but that exemption ended in January, so this year is different and unvaccinated players are actually barred from entering the country which is different from last year. Simmons not going to Canada last year was not related to his vaccination status, but because of a visa status (he was in the process of applying for U.S. citizenship and wasn’t allowed to leave the country.)

So, the 5 could be anyone. According to Reuse, it’s 4 pitchers and 1 position player. If true, 4 pitchers really hurts.

I suppose then see who gets heavily used in Detroit, since they’ll be getting time off.

[Squirrel]

5 minutes ago, Craig Arko said:

I suppose then see who gets heavily used in Detroit, since they’ll be getting time off.

I honestly don’t care who, specifically. The numbers are going to hurt, imo

[Linus]

31 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

 

Researched a little … there was an exemption last year for unvaccinated players of MLB. They were allowed to play last year in Canada, but that exemption ended in January, so this year is different and unvaccinated players are actually barred from entering the country which is different from last year. Simmons not going to Canada last year was not related to his vaccination status, but because of a visa status (he was in the process of applying for U.S. citizenship and wasn’t allowed to leave the country.)

So, the 5 could be anyone. According to Reuse, it’s 4 pitchers and 1 position player. If true, 4 pitchers really hurts.

This is good information. Thanks. 
could be anybody then 

[Puckettsprintstofirst]

16 hours ago, Nine of twelve said:

Jim Souhan weighs in:

https://www.startribune.com/souhan-twins-anti-vaxxers-putting-team-in-bind/600177576/

Souhan is the worst.  Strange lineup today and am sure will be even more so in Toronto.  Hopefully we'll have our scheduled starters, duran, smith, and thielbar.

[TheLeviathan]

33 minutes ago, Puckettsprintstofirst said:

Souhan is the worst.  Strange lineup today and am sure will be even more so in Toronto.  Hopefully we'll have our scheduled starters, duran, smith, and thielbar.

Souhan isn't wrong.  Their choice, which they are allowed to make, has consequences.  And in this case those consequences are could be really difficult for the team to work around in a difficult matchup.  It's unfortunate.

[a-wan]

I guess it is fitting that "America's game" and the players can reflect the selfishness, narcissistic, ignorance of American themselves.

[nicksaviking]

2 minutes ago, a-wan said:

I guess it is fitting that "America's game" and the players can reflect the selfishness, narcissistic, ignorance of American themselves.

Maybe hold off on the judgments until we see who’s getting shelved. This team has plenty of foreign born players. 

[Winston Smith]

14 hours ago, D.C Twins said:

I hope a MiLB player makes the most of his opportunity and one day looks back at this as an amazing opportunity....

Also, if Kepler's injury magically resolves at the exact time that the Twins leave Canada... count me as a vote for him not being vaccinated. 

This is going to make people cranky and likely get this post taken down but...

EVERYONE has minor injuries that can be declared significant enough to miss a little time. 

So again... if he is back right after Toronto and without IL time.... I've got some swamp land in Florida for you if you are not suspicious. 

Kepler played in Toronto last year. Same requirements then! No conspiracy.

[a-wan]

27 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Maybe hold off on the judgments until we see who’s getting shelved. This team has plenty of foreign born players. 

And no Americans are foreign born?

[wabene]

2 hours ago, Squirrel said:

 

Researched a little … there was an exemption last year for unvaccinated players of MLB. They were allowed to play last year in Canada, but that exemption ended in January, so this year is different and unvaccinated players are actually barred from entering the country which is different from last year. Simmons not going to Canada last year was not related to his vaccination status, but because of a visa status (he was in the process of applying for U.S. citizenship and wasn’t allowed to leave the country.)

So, the 5 could be anyone. According to Reuse, it’s 4 pitchers and 1 position player. If true, 4 pitchers really hurts.

Reuse? I have a hard time getting through the first use with that guy. 

[Rosterman]

15 hours ago, D.C Twins said:

I hope a MiLB player makes the most of his opportunity and one day looks back at this as an amazing opportunity....

Also, if Kepler's injury magically resolves at the exact time that the Twins leave Canada... count me as a vote for him not being vaccinated. 

This is going to make people cranky and likely get this post taken down but...

EVERYONE has minor injuries that can be declared significant enough to miss a little time. 

So again... if he is back right after Toronto and without IL time.... I've got some swamp land in Florida for you if you are not suspicious. 

No one is going to get a red letter strike. It is a decision. And being able to put a player on the COVID list means you can bring in someone else. I am for vaccinations as much as anyone, but sadly some make the choice they make. At least MLB isn't making teams play under-handed. Can you imagine going into a series down, say, five players with a couple mroe banged up? You can rotate some into AAA, but the new 10-day rule can really screw you up there, too.

[Squirrel]

34 minutes ago, Winston Smith said:

Kepler played in Toronto last year. Same requirements then! No conspiracy.

Actually, no, there weren’t the same requirements then. Last year, Canada gave MLB players an exemption, this year not so.

[Puckettsprintstofirst]

3 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

Souhan isn't wrong.  Their choice, which they are allowed to make, has consequences.  And in this case those consequences are could be really difficult for the team to work around in a difficult matchup.  It's unfortunate.

I just feel his article is unfair to the players.  Will leave it at that.

[Craig Arko]

Maybe put the whole squad on the Restricted list and send the Saints up.

[TheLeviathan]

26 minutes ago, Puckettsprintstofirst said:

I just feel his article is unfair to the players.  Will leave it at that.

And I understand as a follower of the team/fan.....why that isn't unfair.  It's frustrating to watch your team go into a series handicapped unnecessarily.

[lecroy24fan]

One of the writers tweeted that Cano was with the team in Detroit so I'm thinking he's part of the taxi squad and will be one of the replacements.

[PatPfund]

 I think Souhan's column was spot on. Yep, it's a personal decision, but yep, it can have serious implications for your team, and your place on that team. It's also a decision you don't make once, but every day.

Any unvaxxed player could have looked at the standings a couple weeks ago, and thought 'dang, we're in this, and the team might need me in Toronto', and walked into a drugstore, gotten a J&J shot, and been ready to roll this week.

Can't help but think this also could weigh in on anybody seeking free agency. There are 3 big-spending franchises in the AL East, and two are 100% vaxxed. Can't do anything about existing contracts, but I'd guess vax status is something you could ask free agents since it now could materially affect their availability to play for you.

[old nurse]

6 hours ago, FlyingFinn said:

Wow, Derek Rodriguez and Chi Chi Gonzalez almost surely get called up then. Start out poorly in one game and you tell them to take one for the team. Ian Hamilton has to be one to come up as he continues to pitch great. I would call up Canterino. Otherwise, take your pick from AAA, maybe Cano.

Rodriguez Gonzales and Canterino are not on the 40 man roster