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On 5/25/2022 at 8:29 AM, 4twinsJA said:

Great article, I really hate the complete tear down of teams. Seems the Pirates have been in complete rebuild the past 10 years. 

What about the Astros, Cubs, White Sox and Royals.  Glory was for lived for the Royals but it started with trading Greinke for Cane and Escobar.  The White Sox started with trading Sale and Eaton.  The Astros and Cubs tore it down to the studs.

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19 hours ago, Rosterman said:

Two Questions:

Can the Twins stretch nout ALL their rotation arms to get them thru the season and into the playoffs, if necessary.

And, what to do with Sano if and  when he comes back.

Send him on a rehab assignment for as long as possible and trade him during that period.  Eat his salary and hope a team that needs a bat will take a chance on him.

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10 hours ago, se7799 said:

So if we were to add Donaldson in some hypothetical addition,  we would not be as good or much worse?  Trying to understand this.

I once fired an immensely talent subject matter expert.  He was the most talented person in his group and also a disruptive PIA.  That group functioned far better after his departure.   What's so hard to understand about the importance of chemistry on a baseball team.  BTW ... Donaldson's abrasive personality has been on display long before the altercation with Anderson.  My memory might be off but my recollection of the reports when he was traded by Oakland suggested Beane got rid of him because he was disruptive and of course there have been other incidents along the way.  I don't think it's presumptive for us to conclude Josh Donaldson is abrasive and I think it's reasonable for us to conclude he did not fit in here.  

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2 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

Send him on a rehab assignment for as long as possible and trade him during that period.  Eat his salary and hope a team that needs a bat will take a chance on him.

No team will take him unless he produces bigtime in the minors. He will be free for the asking come 2023.

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6 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

I once fired an immensely talent subject matter expert.  He was the most talented person in his group and also a disruptive PIA.  That group functioned far better after his departure.   What's so hard to understand about the importance of chemistry on a baseball team.  BTW ... Donaldson's abrasive personality has been on display long before the altercation with Anderson.  My memory might be off but my recollection of the reports when he was traded by Oakland suggested Beane got rid of him because he was disruptive and of course there have been other incidents along the way.  I don't think it's presumptive for us to conclude Josh Donaldson is abrasive and I think it's reasonable for us to conclude he did not fit in here.  

I also once fired somebody because they didn't take there responsibility seriously.  I have been able to get more out of people you term" abrasive".  Just because you personally do not like his style does not mean he is not an asset.  My point is he is NOT the monster under your bed whom caused us to lose last year.  I hope you can at least understand that.

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1 minute ago, se7799 said:

I also once fired somebody because they didn't take there responsibility seriously.  I have been able to get more out of people you term" abrasive".  Just because you personally do not like his style does not mean he is not an asset.  My point is he is NOT the monster under your bed whom caused us to lose last year.  I hope you can at least understand that.

By the way, I loved the trade and thought we improved this year obviously.  However it's because we added other players.  If anything as I've stated before what's your understanding of why we improved after trading Cruz?  I just don't like and will stand up to people that like to label players or people in such a negative light.  You do understand cancer is a really bad medical term.  To compare a player to that WILL not sit well with me 

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On 5/25/2022 at 9:14 AM, Trov said:

If this is your thoughts on the team, then why even play the season?  Why not just trade away anyone with value to plan for the future?  Yes, we never win the playoffs over the last 18 games, which is just crazy, but if you look at the team and assume we will lose then why even try to make the playoffs?  I bet last year no one expected Atlanta to win.  They did not have the 'ace' starter everyone says we need to win, but yet someone how they went through the Dodgers, who had 4 'ace' type guys and like 7 all-star hitters in their lineup, and some lights out bullpen guys.  I guess Atlanta should have just traded away Freeman because he was a free agent and they should have given up on the season because their best player was hurt too. 

Any team that makes the playoffs can win no matter the roster.  We were never favored in our WS wins, but still managed to do it. 

"Any team that makes the playoffs can win no matter the roster."   No "any" team can't.  That's my point exactly.  You don't build a team to make the playoffs.  You build a team to win the WS.  Period.  Apparently you focused on the last statement in my post, which in fact was a little tongue-in-cheek.  But it is reinforced by the way the Twins have played against the Astros this year and against the Yankees in years past.  My main point was that they'll have to pickup a more reliable SP to replace what they have as a number 4 or 5 before the season ends.  And after last couple games, it's clear their BP might need some changes as well, i.e., Duffy/Cano.

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