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Twins trade Rogers, Rooker to Padres for Paddack, Pagan


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I like that they got a guy that just turned 26 (1/8) and has been in the league 3 years and averaged above 5 innings for his career,  except last year when he wasn't great with control for a couple of years for a guy that is a FA at the end of the last year.

Don't like it took the best RP and further added to the 40 man crunch with Pagan being included. Didn't see Rooker was added, but still that means they need to add another OF to the 40 man?

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If they get Paddack's ERA to match his peripherals this is a great deal for the Twins in the big picture. If they don't it's still an even deal due to Paddack's extra control (assuming he's a league average pitcher for those 3 years). Don't like losing Rogers, but big picture this is a solid deal.

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The last piece is Rooker or Larnach going to SD. The Saints pulled Larnach out of the game last night. This is probably all about team control for the most part. Paddack is under team control for the next 3 years, and Pagan for two. Rogers is a FA after this season. No doubt Rogers is going to be missed. Pagan had 20 saves a few years ago, so he might be the main closer now. Maybe one of the young guys can step up. 

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2 minutes ago, CRF said:

The last piece is Rooker or Larnach going to SD. The Saints pulled Larnach out of the game last night. This is probably all about team control for the most part. Paddack is under team control for the next 3 years, and Pagan for two. Roger is a FA after this season. No doubt Rogers is going to be missed. Pagan had 20 saves a few years ago, so he might be the main closer now. Maybe one of the young guys can step up. 

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By the way, Rooker is confirmed in this deal.

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So now who do we acquire to replace Rogers in the BP?  He has been our best reliever for a long time - and right now I felt like the BP needed to succeed more than our starters.  This is really confusing.  If Paddack replaces Ober I will be really disappointed. 

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4 minutes ago, Number3 said:

Wasn't Rogers one of their most reliable pitchers? Seems like a move for the sake of making a move.

Rogers is 31 years old, the Twins' highest paid reliever (and 2nd highest paid pitcher), and a free agent at season's end, So it makes some sense to try to move him.

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2 minutes ago, Number3 said:

Wasn't Rogers one of their most reliable pitchers? Seems like a move for the sake of making a move.

He is a reliable relief pitcher who is 30 and we only have this 1 year of control.   The twins management is all about making incremental improvements and finding value.   Overall as a fan slightly disappointed but honestly to be able to get a reliable young pitcher is well worth it if we can help him re find his confidence.  

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I love Rogers, but it seems like we are forgetting he had a terrible year in 2020 and was shut down for 1/2 the year last year.  I understand Paddock also has injury concerns, but he has 3 years of control and good upside.  Rogers wasn't going to be here next year anyway.  

I still think the F.O. is setting up for next year when the kids are ready and Maeda returns.  If Correa somehow stays next year, we could be awesome!

This year.... I'm not so sure.

Extra bonus for the Rogers boys parents.  They'll be able to watch a lot of games in California with both their kids playing.

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15 minutes ago, Otto von Ballpark said:

I'd guess 6 man rotation, for now.

Does a 6 man rotation take longer to stretch out or less time because of the days between starts?

FYI, I hate the idea of a 6 man rotation because that means less pitching from Gray and Ryan. Unless they can keep those two on a regular schedule and mess with the last 4.

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The Twins host Faith Day on April 16.   I wonder how the addition of PAGAN will influence that.  Maybe add a “Graven Image” to the day.  
With PADDACK, and just a slight spelling adjustment, the Twins could enhance their marketing with Canterbury Park and/or Running Aces.  
I think the Twins have an abundance of outfielders.  This seems like a good trade overall 

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Huh. Not sure how I feel about this. I find Paddack interesting, especially if he can find his 2019 form or at least get near his peripheral numbers in 2021. I don't see Rogers as much of a sure thing he was pre-2020. Time will tell, but I think this is a pretty good move. 

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Whether everyone likes all these moves that Fal-Vine have made this season is definitely debatable...a big name front line starter or two would be really great instead of the usual suspects...you can't argue with the fact that they've been extremely active about making changes. I've been here for 40 years and I've never seen anything like this! They're going crazy.  

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I love this trade. The Twins get a young and talented SP, and a BP arm (who maybe stays, and maybe doesn't). They give up the 2022 playing year of Taylor Rogers, and a prospect who is now 27, and is still trying to make the jump to major leaguer. Plus, the Twins retain exactly the same chance of re-signing Rogers as they would have had without the trade.

Considering the number of SPs on the big league team, I too thought '6 man rotation', but given the short spring training, it might be craftier to basically schedule piggy-backs through the first couple turns, then let performance start to build your basic 5 while keeping everyone stretched out. (Along with the current 5 of Ryan, Ober, Gray, Bundy, Archer; can be added Paddack, Winder, Cotton, and Jax.) I have my own guesses to as to who will pitch themselves off the roster or into more regular bullpen gigs, but I suspect play will make it evident quickly enough, and it does allow for a slower ramp up in a year likely to have a bumper crop of pitching injuries.

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