Last spot on the team.

[stringer bell]

4 minutes ago, lecroy24fan said:

I think the last spot hasn't been decided because they will make a trade.

I hope you’re right. Going to spring training, I thought neither of the final choices (Garlick, Rooker) was worthy of a roster spot and their performance has not changed my opinion. They don’t need a star, they just need somebody that fits the team’s needs. That is not Rooker or Garlick. 

[RpR]

Hmm, Polanco just ripped the cover off of the ball also.

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1 hour ago, RpR said:

Hmm, Polanco just ripped the cover off of the ball also.

Polanco had nothing to prove in Florida—get his at-bats in and get his timing down—from the start of camp, Rooker and Garlick were competing for a spot on the roster, a totally different perspective for the spring. 

[RpR]

48 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

Polanco had nothing to prove in Florida—get his at-bats in and get his timing down—from the start of camp, Rooker and Garlick were competing for a spot on the roster, a totally different perspective for the spring. 

Yeah , right.

[peterb18]

21 hours ago, In My La Z boy said:

Got to give it to Rooker. We have no room to breathe on the 40 man, and if we have a catcher go down we'll need to add another to the 40 man roster. Celestino is the right handed hitting 4th outfielder of the future. He is on the 40 man, and is just a short drive across town. Let go of the Garlick for heavens sake. He isn't irreplaceable or necessary, and we need to see what we've got in Rooker. This isn't that hard.

Not high on Celestine from what I saw last year. Maybe a 4th outfielder at best.

[Squirrel]

31 minutes ago, peterb18 said:

Not high on Celestine from what I saw last year. Maybe a 4th outfielder at best.

Celestino was called up too soon out of need due to injuries. He basically went from AA to the majors with barely a stop in between and was understandably overmatched. Once he went back to AAA, and got on course, the latter half of his season there was very good, showing the promise that was always there. He will get the call if anyone gets injured or falters and I think will be much improved his 2nd time around

[PatPfund]

The Athletic is reporting Rooker is going with Rogers to the Padres for Paddack and Pagan. So I guess the Garlick/Rooker convo is done. Now... what will be the Twins rotation?

[PatPfund]

For the last spot, though, I'd go with Garlick especially now that Rooker is gone. Unless somebody leaps out on the waiver wire (Upton does nothing for me; once-great player with serious hitting/defense issues relating to chronic back issues. Which don't get better as the years pass.) Nothing exciting about Garlick, but he has his moments, and I believe the Twins expect one of their minor league outfielders to play their way up to the majors. (Contreras, featured on Twins Daily lately, went yard last night.)

[Riverbrian]

In order to add Garlick to the recipe someone will have to be removed from the 40 man.  

[Squirrel]

1 minute ago, Riverbrian said:

In order to add Garlick to the recipe someone will have to be removed from the 40 man.  

With Rooker traded, Garlick not on the 40-man and Larnach removed from last night's Saints lineup ... my guess is Larnach is on his way to Msp?

[Riverbrian]

Just now, Squirrel said:

With Rooker traded, Garlick not on the 40-man and Larnach removed from last night's Saints lineup ... my guess is Larnach is on his way to Msp?

That was my guess last night. 

This morning I'm reading that Gardenhire said that Larnach was scratched due to the combination of muscle tightness and a wet field. 

I remember back in the late 70's that I didn't go trick or treating once due to the combination of a Tarzan costume and 25 degree temps so the explanation has some merit.  

  

[Squirrel]

10 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

That was my guess last night. 

This morning I'm reading that Gardenhire said that Larnach was scratched due to the combination of muscle tightness and a wet field. 

I remember back in the late 70's that I didn't go trick or treating once due to the combination of a Tarzan costume and 25 degree temps so the explanation has some merit.  

  

Photos of you in that Tarzan costume or this post is nullified

[Squirrel]

10 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

That was my guess last night. 

This morning I'm reading that Gardenhire said that Larnach was scratched due to the combination of muscle tightness and a wet field. 

I remember back in the late 70's that I didn't go trick or treating once due to the combination of a Tarzan costume and 25 degree temps so the explanation has some merit.  

  

But seriously, or somewhat because that Tarzan costume kind of through me … sure it wasn’t a Fred Flintstone costume? … anyway .., if not Larnach, I don’t see them adding Garlick, then who? Gordon is our 4th outfielder, and that’s it?

[Riverbrian]

3 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

But seriously, or somewhat because that Tarzan costume kind of through me … sure it wasn’t a Fred Flintstone costume? … anyway .., if not Larnach, I don’t see them adding Garlick, then who? Gordon is our 4th outfielder, and that’s it?

The 40 man choices are Larnach, Miranda and Celestino assuming that Lewis is not a consideration at all. 

Anybody else will produce a 40 man causality. 

Even though I have no inside data on any player, I'd rather not lose a player unnecessarily so I'd rather it be one of the 3.

Whoever they choose can get playing time if Rocco and the front office has been paying attention to the Rays, Dodgers and Giants.

  

[Squirrel]

6 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

The 40 man choices are Larnach, Miranda and Celestino assuming that Lewis is not a consideration at all. 

Anybody else will produce a 40 man causality. 

Even though I have no inside data on any player, I'd rather not lose a player unnecessarily so I'd rather it be one of the 3.

Whoever they choose can get playing time if Rocco and the front office has been paying attention to the Rays, Dodgers and Giants.

  

I stated this question better in another thread … maybe they aren’t adding another position player, and Gordon is our 4th OF and that’s it? (Or are the numbers such that they have to?) Or, are they just adding another pitcher to fill that final spot? Do either Pagan or Paddock have options? We removed Rogers and Rooker and added Paddock and Pagan … do both of them make the team? If one of them is sent to StP, then my guess is either Larnach or Celestino are called up. Or that final spot is filled by another pitcher?

i am NOT suggesting Garlick makes the team because, no, I agree we’d lose someone we shouldn’t.

[Mike Sixel]

I would think that since the season started, we'd know? Don't rosters have to be set today, or do they get an extra day now?

[Riverbrian]

3 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

I stated this question better in another thread … maybe they aren’t adding another position player, and Gordon is our 4th OF and that’s it? (Or are the numbers such that they have to?) Or, are they just adding another pitcher to fill that final spot? Do either Pagan or Paddock have options? We removed Rogers and Rooker and added Paddock and Pagan … do both of them make the team? If one of them is sent to StP, then my guess is either Larnach or Celestino are called up. Or that final spot is filled by another pitcher?

i am NOT suggesting Garlick makes the team because, no, I agree we’d lose someone we shouldn’t.

I guess it's possible that they add a pitcher to the roster. However, if they add a pitcher they will start the season with 11 position players. That's a little on the low side. 

[Squirrel]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

I would think that since the season started, we'd know? Don't rosters have to be set today, or do they get an extra day now?

By when today? 11? Noon?

i don’t know these little intricacies

[Squirrel]

Just now, Riverbrian said:

I guess it's possible that they add a pitcher to the roster. However, if they add a pitcher they will start the season with 11 position players. That's a little on the low side. 

I know … hence the question .,, either a pitcher gets sent down, or this is it

[Riverbrian]

1 minute ago, Squirrel said:

I know … hence the question .,, either a pitcher gets sent down, or this is it

The 28 Man has an undetermined slot on it.

They can add Larnach to the 28 man and nobody has to be sent down and nobody needs to be removed from the 40 man. 

They can add Garlick to the 28 man and nobody has to be sent down but someone will have to be removed from the 40 man. 

I'm hoping it's Larnach on his way to Minneapolis. 

[Riverbrian]

22 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

They added Pagan and Paddock for Rogers and Rooker. Rooker wasn’t yet on the team, so did Pagan take the 28th spot? That’s what I’m saying and asking. Unless Pagan is headed to St Paul, but then someone would need to be coming up. If Pagan is added the 28-man, then there is no room left, unless they send a pitcher down for a position player from StP, one who IS on the 40-man 

or have I just confused myself into confusion?

Basically … so what is the final 28-man roster?

I assume Jax will be sent down (obvious choice) so I'm not really bringing him up in the discussion and that's probably causing the confusion. Paddack and Pagan added... Rogers and Jax subtracted. 

That puts us where we were before the trade with 27 players locked (I assume) on the 28 man. Garlick hasn't been officially sent down yet so Garlick is currently the 28th guy until they do. 

However, Garlick still hasn't been added to the 40 man... If they do that... someone will have to be taken off the 40 man to accomodate. 

Larnach is already on the 40 man so his being called up would not cause a 40 man casualty.  

The Garlick or Rooker discussion has now changed to Garlick or either  Larnach, Miranda or Celestino who are all on the 40 man.  

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22 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

The 28 Man has an undetermined slot on it.

They can add Larnach to the 28 man and nobody has to be sent down and nobody needs to be removed from the 40 man. 

They can add Garlick to the 28 man and nobody has to be sent down but someone will have to be removed from the 40 man. 

I'm hoping it's Larnach on his way to Minneapolis. 

According to the updated Twins' website, there are 29 active players, including Paddack and Pagan. Cody Stashak, for some reason, is not listed as injured or in the minors. Subtracting Stashak, there are 28 players--17 pitchers and 11 position players. If the Twins choose to add Kyle Garlick, someone (probably a pitcher) must be sent to the minors or disabled and someone will have to be taken off the 40-man roster. If the Twins add back someone who was in the minors (Larnach, Miranda, Celestino), but is on the 40-man roster, then a pitcher would have to be demoted. 

I remain interested in what is going on with Stashak. Perhaps they are looking at a more severe injury and contemplating whether he should go on the 60-day list, maybe they're trying to outright him and are waiting to see if he's been claimed. 

[Squirrel]

7 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

I assume Jax will be sent down (obvious choice) so I'm not really bringing him up in the discussion and that's probably causing the confusion. Paddack and Pagan added... Rogers and Jax subtracted. 

That puts us where we were before the trade with 27 players locked (I assume) on the 28 man. Garlick hasn't been officially sent down yet so Garlick is currently the 28th guy until they do. 

However, Garlick still hasn't been added to the 40 man... If they do that... someone will have to be taken off the 40 man to accomodate. 

Larnach is already on the 40 man so his being called up would not cause a 40 man casualty.  

The Garlick or Rooker discussion has now changed to Garlick or either 40 man rostered Larnach, Miranda or Celestino. 

Well, to add more confusion … I just check the Twins website and counted 29 on the active roster. A pitcher (Jax) going down makes it 28 … so there is some confusion going on.

Imo, Garlick was NEVER an option, so I’m not concerned about 40-man issues today … the only way Garlick is potentially added is to fill a 60-day IL. I’m just wanting to see the final 28-man roster. And counting 29 had me even more, ‘Wait, wut?’ 

[Riverbrian]

Just now, Squirrel said:

Well, to add more confusion … I just check the Twins website and counted 29 on the active roster. A pitcher (Jax) going down makes it 28 … so there is some confusion going on.

Imo, Garlick was NEVER an option, so I’m not concerned about 40-man issues today … I’m just wanting to see the final 28-man roster. And counting 29 had me even more, ‘Wait, wut?’ 

String just explained the 29 players a post or two upward. 

Stashak hasn't been taken off the 28 man roster yet. He is out with a strained bicep. 

Stashak is on the 40 man roster. They just have to officially DL him and that will clear up. 

I'm with you on Garlick... the front office may not be with us. 

I'm still on the edge of my seat. We should hear the news soon. 

[Riverbrian]

8 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

According to the updated Twins' website, there are 29 active players, including Paddack and Pagan. Cody Stashak, for some reason, is not listed as injured or in the minors. Subtracting Stashak, there are 28 players--17 pitchers and 11 position players. If the Twins choose to add Kyle Garlick, someone (probably a pitcher) must be sent to the minors or disabled and someone will have to be taken off the 40-man roster. If the Twins add back someone who was in the minors (Larnach, Miranda, Celestino), but is on the 40-man roster, then a pitcher would have to be demoted. 

I remain interested in what is going on with Stashak. Perhaps they are looking at a more severe injury and contemplating whether he should go on the 60-day list, maybe they're trying to outright him and are waiting to see if he's been claimed. 

I assume Jax has to be the guy going down. 

Garlick could be a monkey wrench this morning. 

Hoping to see Larnach but I'm thinking it will be Garlick to counter balance the left handed Kiriloff and Kepler.  

[Squirrel]

1 minute ago, Riverbrian said:

String just explained the 29 players a post or two upward. 

Stashak hasn't been taken off the 28 man roster yet. He is out with a strained bicep. 

Stashak is on the 40 man roster. They just have to officially DL him and that will clear up. 

I'm with you on Garlick... the front office may not be with us. 

I'm still on the edge of my seat. We should hear the news soon. 

I didn’t see stringers post until after I posted mine, so, yeah, Stashak to the IL. Then we are at 11 position players and a heckuva lot of pitchers

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2 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

Well, to add more confusion … I just check the Twins website and counted 29 on the active roster. A pitcher (Jax) going down makes it 28 … so there is some confusion going on.

Imo, Garlick was NEVER an option, so I’m not concerned about 40-man issues today … I’m just wanting to see the final 28-man roster. And counting 29 had me even more, ‘Wait, wut?’ 

Actually, the 29th guy is Stashak, who we've been told stayed in Florida. Regarding Rooker and Garlick, Rooker was on the 40-man and never optioned or taken off the 40-man, so until one of those things happen, you are on the team. I do think there is a chance that Garlick makes the Opening Day roster, but clearing that spot on the 40-man is still an issue. Actually, there are still a lot of teams that need to finalize their roster and I continue to believe that someone who is cut loose from another team would be a better fit than Kyle Garlick, or Celestino or Larnach for that matter. However, claiming someone from another team and putting them on the roster would still require a 40-man move.

[Riverbrian]

1 minute ago, Squirrel said:

I didn’t see stringers post until after I posted mine, so, yeah, Stashak to the IL. Then we are at 11 position players and a heckuva lot of pitchers

Yep... 11 is too low... that's why I'm already planning on Jax heading to St. Paul. I expect an OF to take the current Jax spot and then it will be 12 position players. 

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3 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

Yep... 11 is too low... that's why I'm already planning on Jax heading to St. Paul. I expect an OF to take the current Jax spot and then it will be 12 position players. 

I also think that Winder could be the victim of adding an additional pitcher (2 for 1 in the swap with SD). Jax has continued to be uninspiring to me, but many are saying he could be really good in a relief role. With the added starter, the Twins could choose to sent Winder to St. Paul.

Edit to add: The Twins notified Duran he was on the roster, they've done no such thing for Winder. That figures into my thinking.

[Riverbrian]

1 minute ago, stringer bell said:

I also think that Winder could be the victim of adding an additional pitcher (2 for 1 in the swap with SD). Jax has continued to be uninspiring to me, but many are saying he could be really good in a relief role. With the added starter, the Twins could choose to sent Winder to St. Paul.

I agree, Winder just might be the guy. Personally, I hope not... I'd rather have the higher potential pitchers walk through the narrowing gap first.