Twins “showing interest” in Trevor Story

[Nashvilletwin]

1. Sign Story - four years, $90MM. Better yet, Correa - six years, $150MM. Declare SS victory. 

2. Miranda makes the team out of spring training and cements his place at 3B. Urshela gets moved at the deadline - to expensive to be a utility player (we’ve got those already in younger, cheaper and likely better versions with LA and JG).

3. I have no idea where we find catching help, because we are one Jeffers injury away from disaster - especially with a young staff. Sanchez is a millstone and is the worst of the four catchers who have been on the Twins roster in the past 48 hours.  Prediction: gone no later than the trade deadline.

4. Sign Big Mike to a one year deal with an option and buyout.

5. Add at least one solid RP.

6. Play baseball. 

[TKGuy10]

This trade makes no sense without additional moves coming.  Donaldson is an injury risk and if we a sign Story or Simien to play SS and another pitcher (probably via trade) then this will make complete sense.  The Twins managed to keep major league ready prospects to entice the Athletics for Montas/Manaea.  If we swap out Donaldson and Garver for Story, Gray and Montas/Manaea, that will certainly be worth it

[Vanimal46]

27 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

 

We could have afforded Story pre-trade. But now this allows the Twins to sign Story to a $20-27.5 million AAV contract and be in a position to take on another team’s salary dump for pitching… Maybe San Diego thinks about shedding a contract on their pitching staff now that Tatis Jr. will be out 2-3 months. Oakland is always a wild card who could trade one or both of Manaea and Montas. 

Right on time…

 

[Obie]

FWIW, ESPN+ gives the Yankees a B on this trade and a B+ to the Twins. Their rationale assumes further moves based upon freeing up significant salary space this year and into the future.

[Mike Sixel]

Is this like when they show interest in Cuban players, or real? I'm hoping real. Then you can deal one of Lewis or Martin for pitching, hopefully Lewis. 

[Squirrel]

31 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

It can't be worse than last year and 18 straight playoff loses! Shortened spring training gives them all a chance to come together and bond quick while creating a new identity for the team. Right? Or at least that's what I'm going to tell myself. Complete shake up is good if they win!

Yeah ... I'm just being an ...

[howeda7]

Let's be real. They won't get Story. But know they tried and TRIED. There just wasn't a "fit". But they tried very hard.

[KirbyHawk75]

Sign Story and add another quality starter.  Then I will be satisfied.  

[wabene]

11 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

Let's be real. They won't get Story. But know they tried and TRIED. There just wasn't a "fit". But they tried very hard.

Achem, Donaldson. Have faith bro.

[RpR]

25 minutes ago, KirbyHawk75 said:

Sign Story and add another quality starter.  Then I will be satisfied.  

Yep especially with that hole a third and behind the plate, just what the fans needed.

 

 

 

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[Mike Sixel]

4 minutes ago, RpR said:

Yep especially with that hole a third and behind the plate, just what the fans needed.

 

 

 

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Urshela is a 3B, what are you talking about there? They also have at least three guys that could play there if needed besides him. 

Now, catcher? That is going to be an issue until they sign a backup, which they will.

[Nashvilletwin]

39 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

Let's be real. They won't get Story. But know they tried and TRIED. There just wasn't a "fit". But they tried very hard.

There is no way they did this last deal without a solution for. SS.  There is no chance that they intend to play the year with Miranda/LA at 3B and Urshela at SS. That would be asinine. Not after trading for Gray.

Patience is warranted. 

[Twins33]

I don’t recall if I have the details correct but this is giving me vibes of that time the Twins released a player and then the player they were going to call up decided to retire. Total backfire. 
 

I will hope for the best because this can’t possibly be it, but unless they’re just waiting on Story to pass his physical…nothing is set in stone. He should have many offers out there. 

[RpR]

6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Urshela is a 3B, what are you talking about there? They also have at least three guys that could play there if needed besides him. 

Now, catcher? That is going to be an issue until they sign a backup, which they will.

Ushela's bat and fielding skills are far below what Donaldson had, there is no one the Twins have that are near that = BIG hole.

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, RpR said:

Ushela's bat and fielding skills are far below what Donaldson had = BIG hole.

I guess we'll disagree on that. Which is fine with me.

[Game7-91]

2 hours ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

5.50 will get you a tall , hot caramel macchiato with almond milk at Starbucks

That's so yesterday, its $7.25 today

[Game7-91]

Agree with other posts that we will need another catcher. Losing Rortvedt and taking back Sanchez is the cost of JD's contract moving, but they cant seriously think theyre getting value out of Sanchez. The FA cathching list is thin, so this is a worry. Even Tortuga us signed.  Losing Rortvedt could come back to bite us in big way, time will tell. Hoping Jeffers stays healthy. 

[Mike Sixel]

the only thing that makes me think this might happen is that there aren't a lot of options for Story.....

[LA VIkes Fan]

You got that right, Mike. Story may not have another good place to go. 

[Brandon]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

Urshela is a 3B, what are you talking about there? They also have at least three guys that could play there if needed besides him. 

Now, catcher? That is going to be an issue until they sign a backup, which they will.

C is going to be an issue and now we can't even sign Astudillo anymore as he signed with Miami yesterday.  with all of the hoopla yesterday we totally missed this signing.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Here are some contract predictions for Trevor Story, from the beginning of the offseason:

MLB Trade Rumors: 6 years, $126 mil ($21 mil AAV)

Ben Clemens (Fangraphs): 5 years, $115 mil ($23 mil AAV)

Fangraphs Median Crowdsource: 6 years, $150 mil ($25 mil AAV)

Fangraphs Avg Crowdsource: 5.45 years, $131.5 mil ($24.1 mil AAV)

[jud6312]

Nobody else at all concerned about Story's home/away splits? They're pretty drastic:

 

Career Home: .369/.603/.972

Career Away: .310/.442/.752

 

2021:

Home: .365/.515/.880

Away: .292/.426/.718

 

Career high OPS away from Coors: .792 in the shortened 2020.

 

I'm not saying I'm opposed, and he's better than the current in-house options, but 9 figures for a guy that historically performs significantly worse away from CO is (IMO) a risky proposition for an organization that doesn't have a track record of carrying multiple players with "big money" contracts.

 

 

[jorgenswest]

I am concerned about the splits but I don’t think it keeps me from pursuing him. There is an argument that some have not dropped after leaving Coors but I don’t find it convincing. It could be the reason he is still available.

I am also intrigued by the possibility of returning Polanco to SS who put up 1.1 WAR over 26 starts at short last year. I realize that there is an increased injury risk at SS but shooting for that upside is worth the risk.

 

[Richmond Dude]

4 hours ago, farmerguychris said:

Don't know anything about Gio, but read on Yankee pages that they are pretty pissed they traded him and even saw posts about wanting the Yanks GM Cashman fired over it.

 

In fairness, I'm pretty sure that entitled Yankees fans call for Cashman to be fired any time he does anything or doesn't do something.  I mean, if they won the WS this year, they would call for him to be fired because they didn't sweep it.

[Joey P]

25 minutes ago, jud6312 said:

Nobody else at all concerned about Story's home/away splits? They're pretty drastic:

 

Career Home: .369/.603/.972

Career Away: .310/.442/.752

 

2021:

Home: .365/.515/.880

Away: .292/.426/.718

 

Career high OPS away from Coors: .792 in the shortened 2020.

 

 

 

310 BA is still great in todays game, especially with the kind of glove he brings at a key key position. He is still a stud and I expect him to sign here. 

[Joey P]

6 minutes ago, Richmond Dude said:

In fairness, I'm pretty sure that entitled Yankees fans call for Cashman to be fired any time he does anything or doesn't do something.  I mean, if they won the WS this year, they would call for him to be fired because they didn't sweep it.

D*** Yankees!!! Can I get an amen!!!

[Otto von Ballpark]

26 minutes ago, jud6312 said:

Nobody else at all concerned about Story's home/away splits? They're pretty drastic:

 

Career Home: .369/.603/.972

Career Away: .310/.442/.752

 

2021:

Home: .365/.515/.880

Away: .292/.426/.718

 

Career high OPS away from Coors: .792 in the shortened 2020.

 

I'm not saying I'm opposed, and he's better than the current in-house options, but 9 figures for a guy that historically performs significantly worse away from CO is (IMO) a risky proposition for an organization that doesn't have a track record of carrying multiple players with "big money" contracts.

 

 

A Rangers fan tried to look at Story's splits a little closer, earlier this offseason:

https://www.lonestarball.com/2021/11/29/22804648/trevor-story-home-road-splits-adjustments-colorado-rockies-coors-field

Their conclusion: "Story’s numbers over the last four years would seem to support the notion that his overall road numbers are impacted by him hitting worse at the outset of a road trip, as he’s adjusting to the way pitches are moving at sea level, compared to at elevation."

[Richmond Dude]

1 minute ago, Joey P said:

D*** Yankees!!! Can I get an amen!!!

Amen!

[jud6312]

1 minute ago, Joey P said:

310 BA is still great in todays game, especially with the kind of glove he brings at a key key position. He is still a stud and I expect him to sign here. 

That's not his away BA, it's OBP. His career BA is .241 away from CO.

[Joey P]

3 minutes ago, jud6312 said:

That's not his away BA, it's OBP. His career BA is .241 away from CO.

Not according to the post above, the triple slash away from COORS is .310/.442/.752