Ok. Let's pretend the players never come back. I can't see that happening, but what's the long term downside? A few years down the road nobody will know the difference. The same current minor league players that will constitute MLB....will constitute MLB.
And for the record, they WILL come back. None of them are going to give up 6, 7, and 8 figure annual salaries for very long.
Why aren't the minor league stadiums gigantic and full of 40,000 fans paying 60+ bucks a ticket and $12 for a beer and $8 for a hot dog? Is it because the product isn't the same? The owners absolutely want nothing to do with getting rid of roughly 1200 of the best players on the planet. I've worked in baseball for years, I've paid for MLB.tv for a decade despite living in the Twins market because I watch as many games as I can, and I've been a Twins season ticket holder. I won't watch another major league game for the rest of my life if they "broke" the union and just went to minor leaguers because their 57% share of $10B in revenue wasn't enough.
If someone as diehard and dedicated to the game as I am would walk away you don't think a large chunk of the average fans would? They're already losing fans and you want them to drop the 1200 best players and think that wouldn't kill the sport? I promise you the best 1200 minor leaguers right now are not what "will constitute MLB" in the future. There's a reason minor league stadiums are a fraction of the size as major league stadiums and their prices are a fraction as big.
And even with the players giving in and giving up even more of the revenue, why would I want that? Why would any fan want the billionaire owners to get more than 60% of the revenues? You think that helps with the competitive balance in baseball? I don't know how else to say it than this has nothing to do with the game of baseball. It is 100% about who gets to take home how much money. The owners aren't on your side. They never have been and never will be. They care about competitive balance as much as it increases their bottom line. And clearly that isn't much.
Neither side cares about the fans. Neither side cares about the game. This is, and always will be, a fight over money and how much each side is able to pull away from the other. That is the only thing they're fighting about and none of them care about competitive balance or a fair game. Look at the constant cheating done all over the sport and realize the players don't care. Look at the tanking owners do every year and realize the owners don't care. None of them care about us, but at least the players entertain us.
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I really hold back what I would like to say about then payroll arguments here. The fact that people don't accept the amount taken in dictates the amount going out requires one of two things. Extreme financial ignorance or fanatical bias that prevents the acceptance of something some basic. I did not change the argument. It's the same idiocy over and over. Do you really want to be on the side that suggests revenues does not determine spending capacity?
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Why aren't the minor league stadiums gigantic and full of 40,000 fans paying 60+ bucks a ticket and $12 for a beer and $8 for a hot dog? Is it because the product isn't the same? The owners absolutely want nothing to do with getting rid of roughly 1200 of the best players on the planet. I've worked in baseball for years, I've paid for MLB.tv for a decade despite living in the Twins market because I watch as many games as I can, and I've been a Twins season ticket holder. I won't watch another major league game for the rest of my life if they "broke" the union and just went to minor leaguers because their 57% share of $10B in revenue wasn't enough.
If someone as diehard and dedicated to the game as I am would walk away you don't think a large chunk of the average fans would? They're already losing fans and you want them to drop the 1200 best players and think that wouldn't kill the sport? I promise you the best 1200 minor leaguers right now are not what "will constitute MLB" in the future. There's a reason minor league stadiums are a fraction of the size as major league stadiums and their prices are a fraction as big.
And even with the players giving in and giving up even more of the revenue, why would I want that? Why would any fan want the billionaire owners to get more than 60% of the revenues? You think that helps with the competitive balance in baseball? I don't know how else to say it than this has nothing to do with the game of baseball. It is 100% about who gets to take home how much money. The owners aren't on your side. They never have been and never will be. They care about competitive balance as much as it increases their bottom line. And clearly that isn't much.
Neither side cares about the fans. Neither side cares about the game. This is, and always will be, a fight over money and how much each side is able to pull away from the other. That is the only thing they're fighting about and none of them care about competitive balance or a fair game. Look at the constant cheating done all over the sport and realize the players don't care. Look at the tanking owners do every year and realize the owners don't care. None of them care about us, but at least the players entertain us.
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