Todd Walkered (Ricky Romero)?

[Lesser Dali]

Ricky Romero has been optioned to AAA by the Toronto Blue Jays. It makes one wonder if he may be falling out of favor in Toronto and needs a change of scenery.

 

In the last half week I put out a thread asking whether the Twins should sign Jon Garland after his release from the Mariners - that was more or less meant as a conversational piece and for "bleeps" and giggles. Ricky Romero is actually intriguing.

 

12 or 13 years ago the Twins fell out of love with a talented, former top prospect, Todd Walker, sent him to AAA, and quickly traded him to the Rockies. Walker didn't have the most most stellar career, but had some fairly good offensive seasons after that trade.

 

The return for Todd Walker was minimal.

 

I wonder if we have the Todd Sears in our farm system to acquire Ricky Romero?

 

I cannot imagine many participants of this site would be bummed out by that trade scenario.

[old nurse]

With the way Romero had pitched, the Twins could probably swap Romeros if the Twins wanted to.

[Riverbrian]

Romero has turned into a Kazmir... May have to wait a few years for him to come back like Kazmir this year. Romero is struggling with a capital STR.

[TheLeviathan]

This seems like a good buy-low move. I'd be all about it, with our pitching status what the hell do we have to lose?

[Lesser Dali]

Oops... I did not take into account the salary owed to him this season. 7.5M - Ouch! No one will eat that salary. If the Jays were to (eat his salary), I'd still take a chance and see if a change of scenery could light a new fire, but why would they (Blue Jays)?

[Lesser Dali]

This seems like a good buy-low move. I'd be all about it, with our pitching status what the hell do we have to lose?

 

Agreed. If only it was a buy low move and the 7.5M salary could be avoided. His acquisition would trump the Twin's Free Agent signings this past offseason.

[PseudoSABR]

Kyle Lohsed might be a more apt past participle.

[TheLeviathan]

Even at 7.5M I'd gamble. He's got some problems, but he was also a very promising young starter very recently. Not like we don't have payroll room to gamble with.

[DaveW]

The problem is the Blue Jays have no reason to trade him at this point, he is a high risk/high upside pitcher at this point whose value is at an all time low, if he figures it out again, which is a very real possibility, they will hold onto him.

[Lesser Dali]

Kyle Lohsed might be a more apt past participle.

 

I like it, but nah. Walker and Romero were 1st round picks that were suppose to be franchise leading players. It certainly did not work out for Walker, but the book is not written for Romero. Lohse never had those high hopes attached to him.

[glanzer]

Actually they optioned Romero to Class A, not AAA.

[Lesser Dali]

Actually they optioned Romero to Class A, not AAA.

 

Merci. Vous êtes un homme très gentil.

[PseudoSABR]

Even at 7.5M I'd gamble. He's got some problems, but he was also a very promising young starter very recently. Not like we don't have payroll room to gamble with.

Let them have Blackburn as part of any package. Wishful thinking, I know.

[70charger]

The problem is the Blue Jays have no reason to trade him at this point, he is a high risk/high upside pitcher at this point whose value is at an all time low, if he figures it out again, which is a very real possibility, they will hold onto him.

 

While this makes sense, you might think that his price tag would be a reason. The Jays added a lot of players this season for their title push - maybe having $7.5 million come off the books for a guy who isn't on the major league roster would be good enough reason to move him? And for a team like the Twins, with money to spend, "buying" him wouldn't necessarily require a good prospect in return.

[ThePuck]

Ricky Romero has been optioned to AAA by the Toronto Blue Jays. It makes one wonder if he may be falling out of favor in Toronto and needs a change of scenery.

 

In the last half week I put out a thread asking whether the Twins should sign Jon Garland after his release from the Mariners - that was more or less meant as a conversational piece and for "bleeps" and giggles. Ricky Romero is actually intriguing.

 

12 or 13 years ago the Twins fell out of love with a talented, former top prospect, Todd Walker, sent him to AAA, and quickly traded him to the Rockies. Walker didn't have the most most stellar career, but had some fairly good offensive seasons after that trade.

 

The return for Todd Walker was minimal.

 

I wonder if we have the Todd Sears in our farm system to acquire Ricky Romero?

 

I cannot imagine many participants of this site would be bummed out by that trade scenario.

 

Optioned to single A.

 

Edit...nevermind, someone else pointed it out.

[ashbury]

Oops... I did not take into account the salary owed to him this season. 7.5M - Ouch! No one will eat that salary.

 

Romero's salary isn't quite in Vernon Wells's league, but I have periodically wondered if a team could be so desperate to shed salary that they would package a high-pay guy with a real stud prospect, in exchange for a utility player deemed to have "some" value at the major league level, a defensive minded 3rd catcher say. Maybe you'd have to add a middling prospect on each side, to provide "cover" for the team doing the salary dump. The Twins have the salary room this year - would they pay $X million to acquire a really good prospect?

[Chance]

4) Sean Nolin, LHP, Grade B: I don't know why this guy doesn't get more attention. He's big (6-5, 235), has a solid fastball, good curve, change coming along, throws strikes, great performance record. Just needs to stay healthy.

from John Sickels.

 

does anyone feel that Morneau or Parm would be worth or be enough to acquire Romero and Nolin?

 

I know I'm reaching here.

[Mr. Brooks]

4) Sean Nolin, LHP, Grade B: I don't know why this guy doesn't get more attention. He's big (6-5, 235), has a solid fastball, good curve, change coming along, throws strikes, great performance record. Just needs to stay healthy.

from John Sickels.

 

does anyone feel that Morneau or Parm would be worth or be enough to acquire Romero and Nolin?

 

I know I'm reaching here.

 

I'd shoot a little higher than Nolin if I were dealing with the Jays.

Sure, Sickels has him 4th in their farm system (which is higher than most), but the Jays system is pretty gutted after the Reyes and Dickey trades, they only have 2 top 100 worthy prospects, and I'd hold out for one of those (Sanchez and Osuna).

The Jays have shown this year that they don't mind giving up top prospects to win now, so I'd hope Morneau gets off to a hot start, then play hardball for Osuna (they probably wouldn't trade Sanchez).

[diehardtwinsfan]

If Nolin is who I think he is, he is a pretty good prospect. He's also a hard throwing lefty that Sickles himself said could be an A- by the end of the year. If they got him for Morneau, I'd be ecstatic.

 

I could see trying to get Romero, though I don't know if Toronto will trade him. I could see swapping reclamation projects in a BlackBurn for Romero deal, but I think the Twins would have to toss in a fringe prospect to get that to work, and I'm not sure Toronto is going to want to get a low upside reclamation project for a high upside one, unless the risk is extremely high for Romero.

[Mr. Brooks]

If Nolin is who I think he is, he is a pretty good prospect. He's also a hard throwing lefty that Sickles himself said could be an A- by the end of the year. If they got him for Morneau, I'd be ecstatic.

 

I could see trying to get Romero, though I don't know if Toronto will trade him. I could see swapping reclamation projects in a BlackBurn for Romero deal, but I think the Twins would have to toss in a fringe prospect to get that to work, and I'm not sure Toronto is going to want to get a low upside reclamation project for a high upside one, unless the risk is extremely high for Romero.

 

Not sure you are thinking of the right guy.

Nolin is not a hard thrower, he's more of a soft tossing, command and control type pitcher.

 

I'd say his upside is maybe a Vance Worley, but with a little better feel for his secondary stuff.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Romero was probably optioned to single-A because that team plays in sunny Florida, as opposed to the Blue Jays AAA affiliate in Buffalo, NY.

 

I have no idea if Romero is being shopped in trade, but the Twins would appear to have little the Blue Jays would need (unless they are willing to cut bait on Adam Lind too, in exchange for Morneau). Blackburn's not going anywhere right now, that's for certain.

[Willihammer]

Romero could still be a useful pitcher but his best days are behind him. Teams have figured out that they need to stack lefthanders, not righthanders, against him, in order to neutralize his changeup. Look at his splits.