Game Recap: White Sox 13, Twins 8

[cHawk]

53 minutes ago, TwinsChupacabra said:

A 100 loss season is looking very possible now.  Will that be even enough to get rid of Rocco?

I don’t think firing Rocco is the answer. He won back-back division titles, with a combined 137-85 record. He’s been bad this year, but I don’t see why a bad stretch of 40 games negates 220 games. 

A bench coach is probably the way to go, since he had a competent one (Bell) in 2019-2020.

[darwin22]

9 hours ago, Platoon said:

Some of this is a lack of talent. But some of this is a failure of the players to meet our expectations. And the fluke 2019 season didn’t help. The Keplers, Garvers, Sanos, and Rogers maybe aren’t what we thought they were. I for one thought Polanco would be a true pure hitter. He’s gotten better, but he isn’t what I envisioned. And while Cruz has 9? HR’s, he is beginning to appear a mere mortal. 
As for mental approach, well one of the "team leaders" lollygagged his butt home on that DP and cost a run. Also, I was a huge fan of signing Simmons, the team needed a SS badly. But he is playing with about as much interest as my grandchildren do when we pick up sticks in the yard! 

The Twins pitching staff needs no further verbal abuse, it’s mostly all been said. But, if I was a pitcher and had to pitch to Garver I would seriously have to consider going to my grandmothers funeral that day. The fact I no longer have a grandmother would not deter me a bit. Seriously, if there is a worse MLB catcher I can’t name him. His two singles were easily displaced by the two unblocked low balls, scoring runs. How can you pitch with confidence down in the zone looking at him behind the plate. Pitch framing? I have seen high school catchers who don’t jerk a pitch that clumsily. 
I don’t think the Calvary is coming this year. This may just be what it is. The FO is going to have to do some pretty miraculous work to turn this around, even by next year. The only player untouchable should be Buxton, and I think he only has a year left under control. Sadly, with his inability to stay on the field, that translates into about 100 more games. 

Excellent analysis of the sad state of affairs for this team.  Garver never was considered much of a defensive whiz and his recent play exposes his lack of skills.  When he went ballistic in 2019----30+ HRs in not much over 300 ABs, his lethargic  defense could be ignored as the Twins offense just bludgeoned a lot of teams.  Can't say that any longer.  I really feel its time, within the next week, that the Ben Rortvedt "experiment" should end and Jeffers is recalled.  Jeffers SHOULD get the majority of starts for the remainder of the season.  Now, if we could only figure out how to get Sano to make contact.  Thats too large of a mission for me to solve!

[darwin22]

8 hours ago, mikelink45 said:

This site is becoming our therapy couch.  We keep elevating our hopes - Oh good Happ is pitching!  Yikes he gave up 9 runs.  Shaun is coming in (the announcers are so desperate that they talk on about how many different spellings the teams history of Sauns has had) and of course he gives up a HR.

The team rallies, we are going to keep it going - right?  The radio announcers are trying to hold in their shock - Garlick is going to bat and they have good matchups on the bench - sure they will use Larnach.  No they don't.  Larnach will PH with no one on and be stranded in the next inning, but Garlick will bat and kill the rally.  Hey Rocco - find that sheet about LH/RH matchups.  They pull Garlick then and put in Cave and his 169 BA.  That will help. 

What happened to Simmons?  Why is he out of the game? Will his ankle keep him out now?  

The tears are flowing, but I am feeling better now - thanks for the couch!

Tears?  For me, it was angrily tipping over furniture while a steady flow of profanities spewed from my pie hole.  The LAST day I did that was April 21st.  Remember that game?  Our infamous 13-12 loss at Oakland.  Since that day, I've QUIT investing my time into this team.  Pretty obvious to me that the front office, our manager and our players are going through the motions since that horrible road trip and all the games that have followed.  I've diverted my attention to our prospects at Fort Myers, Cedar Rapids and Wichita---------time well served.  If you haven't tried it, I'd suggest doing so.

[VivaBomboRivera!]

17 hours ago, bighat said:

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Back to the Twins - we could have all turned off the game when the White Sox took a 2-1 lead in the 1st inning. There is no fight in this team offensively...

Disagree here.  I was proud of the bats for not lying down yesterday.  The Twins still have a RISP problem and a relief problem, but the hitters have not stopped working.

[Charleo]

I attended this game.  After Cruz hit the HR in the top of the 1st my 15yr old turned to me and said, "Just wait, Happ will give it right back."   And not only was he right, but I knew he was right as Cruz was still rounding the bases.  There are so many things wrong with this club, and it's hard to watch.  It's even worse dropping hundreds of dollars to watch a game that was over by the 3rd inning.  At least the weather was nice.  Gonna be a long summer....

[Brock Beauchamp]

19 hours ago, cHawk said:

I don’t think firing Rocco is the answer. He won back-back division titles, with a combined 137-85 record. He’s been bad this year, but I don’t see why a bad stretch of 40 games negates 220 games. 

A bench coach is probably the way to go, since he had a competent one (Bell) in 2019-2020.

Frankly, what does firing Baldelli accomplish? I don’t think he has done a good job of field management this season but literally every player he puts into a critical situation, either offensively or defensively, just flat-out fails.

Firing him may make a statement but right now, the players are the ones who need to be fired because they suck at their jobs when it matters most.