How Long Can the Twins Keep Their Window of Opportunity Open?

[Mike Sixel]

Man, MLR was sure on the 2022 looks great path coming into the year......

[Major League Ready]

3 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Man, MLR was sure on the 2022 looks great path coming into the year......

I was wrong.  Would you like to go back on all the times you were not just wrong but dead wrong.  I have a long memory starting with your insistence that we must sign Jacoby Ellsbury.  Sometimes you need to take a step back when things don't go as planned and things have not gone as planned.  Having said this my position has not a 180 it's a regroup for 1 year not a complete rebuild entailing being bad for multiple years.  I am simply open to trading Berrios and/or Buxton because in all likelihood doing so significantly improves our odds of contention for the next several.   I do strategic planning for a living. and you have a very short-term focus.  We are never going to agree.  BTW ... I guy that has consistently proposed stuff that would have hurt the team significantly for several years should not throw stones.

[howeda7]

On 3/15/2021 at 9:59 AM, Greglw3 said:

 

I can think of one example where a mediocre-poor team bought a championship and that was the Florida Marlins 1st championship. After that, they dumped everyone and stunk for a short time but they always seem to have lots of good prospects!

That was the 1997 Marlins. The Padres basically did the same thing in 1998 but got swept by the Yankees in the World Series.

[Mike Sixel]

41 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

I was wrong.  Would you like to go back on all the times you were not just wrong but dead wrong.  I have a long memory starting with your insistence that we must sign Jacoby Ellsbury.  Sometimes you need to take a step back when things don't go as planned and things have not gone as planned.  Having said this my position has not a 180 it's a regroup for 1 year not a complete rebuild entailing being bad for multiple years.  I am simply open to trading Berrios and/or Buxton because in all likelihood doing so significantly improves our odds of contention for the next several.   I do strategic planning for a living. and you have a very short-term focus.  We are never going to agree.  BTW ... I guy that has consistently proposed stuff that would have hurt the team significantly for several years should not throw stones.

That wasn't a criticism...an observation. We were all wrong. Btw..I also did strategic planning for a living...... I'm also on the trade them team. I don't think they'll sign them.... So I'd trade them.

[Dodecahedron]

To answer the original question:  7 games.  Game 8 is when the losing streak started that bounced them out of first; yes they were still in first place when it is clear in retrospect that they were done.

That was a mighty small window of opportunity, but it's worth pointing out that the 2011 and 2016 teams were even worse out of the gate.  It could be argued that the 2011 Twins were still "competitive" at 7 games, as they were only 2 games back at 3-4 -- but that to me is a stretch.

The '82 Twins (60-102) were competitive through 9 games.  A walk-off loss in game 10 started a death spiral that they did not snap out of until July.