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I wanted to take the salary cap hit last year and move on from Kirk. Way before all of this extra info about him came out. It definitely won’t happen this year while Zimmer and Spielman are on the hot seat. 

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  On 8/8/2021 at 1:00 AM, Danchat said:

I suppose, though Kirk is likely going to be the 3rd best QB on the trade market after Rodgers and Watson (assuming his situation clears up, I think he gets moved over the 2022 offseason). 

The Colts have 4 years of Wentz, and they have him at roughly $26M a year through 2024, though the guarantees mostly protect him in his 2022, but moving him would be possible. It'd just be weird for them to move on so quickly. Teams like the Giants, Steelers, and Broncos would make sense.

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Denver and Washington are ideal but neither are going to happen.  Maybe Pitt makes sense.

Again....alas...wishful thinking.

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  On 8/8/2021 at 4:35 PM, cHawk said:

Pitt does make sense. They have plenty of egos.

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The Steelers have been proud of and promoting their vaccination rates and Tomlin is a pretty blunt guy. I might suspect he'd want nothing to do with Cousins based on the same things we've been saying about him in this thread.

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  On 8/9/2021 at 2:59 PM, nicksaviking said:

The Steelers have been proud of and promoting their vaccination rates and Tomlin is a pretty blunt guy. I might suspect he'd want nothing to do with Cousins based on the same things we've been saying about him in this thread.

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I stand corrected. No way does he go to Pitt. He’s literally the state poster child for “Avoid the vaccine.”

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Can’t disagree with that given what we know now. The RG battle will be interesting. I’m cool with easing Darrisaw and Davis into the starting 5 after a game or two. Hill is what he is, a decent spot starter. I’m not sure what the plan ever was with Udoh. If he can’t beat out Dozier I don’t know why we keep him on the roster. 

I guess we’re going with a total unknown at kicker. Not sure why we haven’t brought in someone like Zane Gonzalez for a tryout. 

Man, we’re really banking that Conklin’s positive contribution in limited action is for real…

Also, calling it now. Dantzler has a break out year and enters the conversation for best CB in the league. 

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  On 8/10/2021 at 1:17 AM, Vanimal46 said:

I’m not sure what the plan ever was with Udoh. If he can’t beat out Dozier I don’t know why we keep him on the roster. 

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Udoh was seen as a tackle-only in his first two years, and the Vikings have waited until training camp to move him to guard (instead of, y'know, let him know in January/minicamps/OTAs). As usual, the plan for the O-line doesn't make a ton of sense and I have a hard time faulting Udoh - he's still learning how to play the position. 

  On 8/10/2021 at 1:17 AM, Vanimal46 said:

Also, calling it now. Dantzler has a break out year and enters the conversation for best CB in the league. 

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I'd love to believe that, but some think Breeland is going to start over Dantzler, which IMO would be egregious, but not a huge surprise with Zimmer's love of veterans. 

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  On 8/10/2021 at 1:37 AM, Danchat said:

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I'd love to believe that, but some think Breeland is going to start over Dantzler, which IMO would be egregious, but not a huge surprise with Zimmer's love of veterans. 

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Yikes, wouldn’t that be a shame. It’s rare when rookie CBs look good in Zimmer’s system. Dantzler was one of the lone bright spots on the defense last year, progressing well while taking on more responsibility throughout the season. Let’s hope Breeland only threatens Peterson or Mack’s role on the team. 

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It sickens me seeing all of these people in other forums defending Cousins.

*How many QBs turn in Pro Bowl performances behind Bottom 5 Offensive Lines?*

*Cousins was crazy to sign an extension here*

*If Cousins could go to a team who prioritizes Pass Protection maybe he could win a Super Bowl*

*Fire these Clowns (Zimmer and Spielman)*

If he’s getting lauded for doing his “best” to elevate the team with his performance, why isn’t he being roundly criticized for voluntarily putting his entire team at risk? It makes no sense to me. Some are so oblivious to reality.

It’s sickening and it’s why I stay away from lots of other forums.

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  On 8/12/2021 at 3:28 AM, cHawk said:

It sickens me seeing all of these people in other forums defending Cousins.

*How many QBs turn in Pro Bowl performances behind Bottom 5 Offensive Lines?*

*Cousins was crazy to sign an extension here*

*If Cousins could go to a team who prioritizes Pass Protection maybe he could win a Super Bowl*

*Fire these Clowns (Zimmer and Spielman)*

If he’s getting lauded for doing his “best” to elevate the team with his performance, why isn’t he being roundly criticized for voluntarily putting his entire team at risk? It makes no sense to me. Some are so oblivious to reality.

It’s sickening and it’s why I stay away from lots of other forums.

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There are many criticizing him for that, but I think you can make a simple argument without involving anything vaccine-related. We were thought to be SB bound and he was supposed to be the final piece, yet we've gone 25-23-1 with him and one playoff berth in three seasons. 

Also, I've never seen anyone criticize Cousins for taking the extension... it was a complete no-brainer for him. It guaranteed another $66M over a 2 year stretch. He'd be foolish not to take that money. His agent deserves an award for managing to get 5 fully guaranteed years for his client in the NFL, which is notorious for not fully guaranteeing deals.

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  On 8/12/2021 at 6:23 PM, Danchat said:

There are many criticizing him for that, but I think you can make a simple argument without involving anything vaccine-related. We were thought to be SB bound and he was supposed to be the final piece, yet we've gone 25-23-1 with him and one playoff berth in three seasons. 

Also, I've never seen anyone criticize Cousins for taking the extension... it was a complete no-brainer for him. It guaranteed another $66M over a 2 year stretch. He'd be foolish not to take that money. His agent deserves an award for managing to get 5 fully guaranteed years for his client in the NFL, which is notorious for not fully guaranteeing deals.

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I saw someone make the argument that he’s risking his health by playing for Zimmer, and playing behind that OL.

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I find it hilarious that some are actually mad at the playcalling for this game.

Sure, run your best plays in the Preseason with your 2’s and 3’s to win a meaningless game and the rest of the league can watch and figure them out.

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After crunching Saturday's tape, Zimmer likely realized that the guys behind Hunter are not going to get it done. Griffen was very effective as a rotational rusher last year and would be an upgrade over Weatherly and the others. Ideally our top 4 DEs would be Hunter, Griffen, Wonnum, and Jones II.

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  On 8/18/2021 at 3:08 AM, Danchat said:

After crunching Saturday's tape, Zimmer likely realized that the guys behind Hunter are not going to get it done. Griffen was very effective as a rotational rusher last year and would be an upgrade over Weatherly and the others. Ideally our top 4 DEs would be Hunter, Griffen, Wonnum, and Jones II.

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Goes to show in the NFL you can burn bridges by calling the current QB ass on Twitter and still get a job. What a world we live in! 

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