2021 Off-Season Thread

[Vanimal46]

 

Or maybe SF leaked it to get this type of reaction out of Rodgers. Wow. Could be a really explosive night!

[Mike Sixel]

I would be VERY HAPPY if they trade Rodgers.

[nicksaviking]

 

  On 4/29/2021 at 7:22 PM, Vanimal46 said:

Or maybe SF leaked it to get this type of reaction out of Rodgers. Wow. Could be a really explosive night!

 

 

  On 4/29/2021 at 7:48 PM, Mike Sixel said:

I would be VERY HAPPY if they trade Rodgers.

 

I mean at this point, I'm just VERY HAPPY!

 

Even if they keep him, he clearly doesn't want to be there. GB knows how fickle their supposedly awesome fanbase is too. Now that this is out, they're going to pick sides. The Great Wisconsin Civil War of 2021! This is just so awesome.

 

I'm going fishing this weekend in Winthrop Harbor, right on the WI and IL boarder, I can't wait to hit up the local bars.

[Danchat]

Today is the day that just keeps giving! The internet is losing their mind over the Rodgers rumors, and I am here for it.

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 4/29/2021 at 9:41 PM, Danchat said:

Today is the day that just keeps giving! The internet is losing their mind over the Rodgers rumors, and I am here for it.

 

As much as we'd love it, no way it happens.

[nicksaviking]

 

  On 4/29/2021 at 9:45 PM, Mike Sixel said:

As much as we'd love it, no way it happens.

 

Honestly, I almost hope they call his bluff and a trade doesn't happen. I'd bet he'd retire and they'd be left with nothing.

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 4/29/2021 at 9:57 PM, nicksaviking said:

Honestly, I almost hope they call his bluff and a trade doesn't happen. I'd bet he'd retire and they'd be left with nothing.

 

The cap hit is ridiculous, not sure they even can deal him. 

 

But, sure, that's best case scenario!

[TheLeviathan]

 

  On 4/29/2021 at 4:22 AM, Danchat said:

Yeah... but I don't think it was smoke. I had checked out the Eagles' SB Nation site about two months ago, and there was a legitimate debate about whether they should go QB at #6, and they were pretty much split 50-50 on whether they should or not. 

 

There are some crazy things going on in Philly - if you have an Athletic subscription, there's a great article on how GM Howie Roseman survived the 2020 season and it covers how owner Jeffery Lurie has been meddling with Roseman's drafts and causing chaos and rifts in the organization. If Lurie liked a QB at #6, he'd have Roseman do it, even with Hurts on the team. I guess then the logical move would be to trade Hurts since he's on a great contract? But it'd be a really bizarre move to make.

 

I understand, but just because fan sentiment thought that doesn't make it so.  My issue is they've framed it as "They dealt Wentz, so they must have a plan at pick 6"

 

And I just think....yeah, to draft Jalen Hurts some help.  People have just ran with this notion and it seems utterly ludicrious to me.  Hurts looks like a steal and he's making chump change.

 

[Danchat]

Here is my final mock:

 

 

Text version:

 

1 JAX QB Trevor Lawrence
2 NYJ QB Zach Wilson
3 SF QB Mac Jones
4 ATL TE Kyle Pitts
5 CIN WR Ja'Marr Chase
6 MIA WR Jaylen Waddle
7 DEN QB Justin Fields
8 CAR LT Penei Sewell
9 NE QB Trey Lance
10 DAL CB Patrick Surtain II
11 NYG WR DeVonta Smith
12 PHI CB Jaycee Horn
13 LAC T/G Rashawn Slater
14 MIN T Christian Darrisaw
15 DET LB Micah Parsons
16 ARZ LB/ED Zaven Collins
17 LAV LB Jamin Davis
18 NO CB Caleb Farley
19 WFT G/T Aljiah Vera-Tucker
20 CHI RT Teven Jenkins
21 IND ED Jason Phillips
22 TEN WR Elijah Moore
23 NYJ ED Kwity Paye
24 PIT HB Najee Harris
25 JAX LB Jeremiah Owusu-Kora
26 CLE CB Greg Newsome II
27 BAL ED Jayson Oweh
28 MIA HB Travis Etienne
29 GB T Dillon Radunz
30 BUF DT Christian Barmore
31 BAL WR Rashod Bateman
32 TB ED Joe Tryon

 

 

Follow my board here.

[nicksaviking]

I don't dislike SF, but I don't care for Mac Jones, and SF looks like a dangerous team long term if they nail a future stud QB, so I really hope it's Mac Jones. Lance and Fields could obviously be busts, but their ceilings seem so much higher, please find a way into the AFC.

[Vanimal46]

The Trey Lance dream is dead. Not that we really had a chance at 14.

 

I wonder if the Mac Jones hype was just a smoke screen all along, or if SF truly had a split decision between Lance and Jones.

[nicksaviking]

Yeah, his skillset was way too talented to actually slide. 

[nicksaviking]

I think I'm the only one who thinks Pitts is a bad choice. Not that he's not an athletic freak, and not that he COULDN'T be good.

 

But every few years we get a "can't miss" TE going in the top end of the draft and not a one of them have worked out since Tony Gonzalez. I truly think TEs thrive based more on system and usage.

[Vanimal46]

  On 4/30/2021 at 12:54 AM, nicksaviking said:

I think I'm the only one who thinks Pitts is a bad choice. Not that he's not an athletic freak, and not that he COULDN'T be good.

 

But every few years we get a "can't miss" TE going in the top end of the draft and not a one of them have worked out since Tony Gonzalez. I truly think TEs thrive based more on system and usage.

Yeah that’s why they were actively seeking a trade out of 4th overall. It’s not a pick that will generate instant star results. He could one day be spread out wide or in the slot, but that’s asking a ton plus be a TE as a rookie.

[Vanimal46]

Sewell and Slater sliding... Is Rick on the phone with Detroit right now?

[nicksaviking]

I like Ja'Marr Chase, but I didn't understand all the talk of him going there. I thought Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd were a pretty decent receiving tandem. Lot's of good wideouts in Cinci now.

[Vanimal46]

  On 4/30/2021 at 1:02 AM, nicksaviking said:

I like Ja'Marr Chase, but I didn't understand all the talk of him going there. I thought Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd were a pretty decent receiving tandem. Lot's of good wideouts in Cinci now.

Burrow will have to get rid of the ball immediately when it’s snapped to him with their bad OL.

[Vanimal46]

I really like Waddle. And Detroit literally ran their pick to the podium. Never mind about a trade... I can see why they did to pick Sewell.

[Danchat]

The Rodgers trade hype seems to have died down now... as Denver took a CB 9th overall. Not quite what I expected.

[nicksaviking]

 

  On 4/30/2021 at 1:28 AM, Danchat said:

The Rodgers trade hype seems to have died down now... as Denver took a CB 9th overall. Not quite what I expected.

 

Yeah, unless this turns into the NBA and players get traded after getting drafted, looks like Rodgers is staying put until at least June.

[nicksaviking]

Ha, so the Eagles and Cowboys team up to screw over the Giants? Dumb NFC East.

[Vanimal46]

The trade down market is bad if all it took was a 3rd rounder to move up 2 spots... Feels like we’re gonna stay at 14. And Washington’s gonna be staring at another Ohio State QB who’s fallen to them.

[Vanimal46]

Bears trading up for one of the QBs!

[nicksaviking]

Ugh, no I don't want Fields going to Chicago.

[Danchat]

Bears just traded up 9 picks, likely for Justin Fields. It seems they'll actually have a good QB at some point... at least, I like him a lot.

[Vanimal46]

Ah damn it. The memes would have been so much better if they took Mac Jones.

[nicksaviking]

OK, no interest in a backdoor QB at #14 now. 

 

Slater's probably not getting past SD, but I suppose this is about where you see divergent opinions between front offices and the draft wonks.

[nicksaviking]

Kiper just called Cousin's a plateau QB.

 

That's about the nicest thing I've heard the national media call him!

[Vanimal46]

Probably 1 pick off from getting Slater. Darrisaw or Vera Tucker

[nicksaviking]

 

  On 4/30/2021 at 1:55 AM, Vanimal46 said:

Probably 1 pick off from getting Slater. Darrisaw or Vera Tucker

 

Since I don't have strong feelings about any of the OL, now I'd be Ok to trade down if someone thinks NE is going to take Jones and they want to jump ahead to take him.