Marlins are Ridiculous (Johnson, Buehrle, Reyes and more)

[JB_Iowa]

  ThePuck said:

  JB_Iowa said:

There's certainly no reason that the Twins couldn't spend more than 50% on a regular basis (larger revenues should allow you to assign a larger percentage to player personnel) but at a minimum, they need to rethink the overall policy.

 

To expect them to do that, one would have to assume their goal is to win a W Series championship...as opposed to creating a team to be competitive within the division

 

Well, I don't expect them to do so. I would have no problem with suffering through miserable seasons if I saw it as part of a rebuilding mode. But I don't see that with the Twins. I honestly believe that their primary goal is to be "just good enough" to keep b*tts in the seats for most of the season. I wish they'd do SOMETHING that would convince me that they are genuinely interested in winning a championship not just making a profit. (That something wouldn't have to be a major free agent signing -- it could just be making some genuine trades to improve the ballclub in the long-run rather than just last-minute dumps of players they don't want to re-sign.)

[nicksaviking]

Time to calm down everyone, the Marlins totally redeemed themselves, they just signed John Maine.

[ThePuck]

  JB_Iowa said:

I honestly believe that their primary goal is to be "just good enough" to keep b*tts in the seats for most of the season. I wish they'd do SOMETHING that would convince me that they are genuinely interested in winning a championship not just making a profit. (That something wouldn't have to be a major free agent signing -- it could just be making some genuine trades to improve the ballclub in the long-run rather than just last-minute dumps of players they don't want to re-sign.)

 

Exactly

[Danchat]

A la contraire, I think the Marlins are making a good move. They are dumping lots of money and getting some pretty good prospects. They admit they made a huge mistake last year, and they are ready to rebuild. That's better than the Twins and Vikings last year, where we thought we could still be good when we're a last place team! Time to re-build! The Marlins are saving themselves from pain in the future.

[AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS]

  nicksaviking said:

Time to calm down everyone, the Marlins totally redeemed themselves, they just signed John Maine.

 

Umm they did not sign John Maine, they signed Scott Maine a relief pitcher with the Blue Jays who was designated for assignment with a 6+ ERA

[Kwak]

I thought the FAs last year by the Marlins was foolish, and window dressing for their new stadium. That they realized this (or maybe this dump was in their plan all along) was a smart idea. The 2012 Marlins were a bad ballclub and needed to be "blown-up". If MLB owners wanted more competition--they could simply reduce the revenue sharing (and the luxury tax) formula which would force all teams to compete to sell tickets and build revenues. But when a team can operate on a minute payroll, sell a few thousand tickets per game--and still make a handsome profit--then it's MLB's problem. The owners are the only ones that can fix this. Other threads are available for discussion of how the Twins should proceed.

[Gopher Nation]

Loria is bad for baseball. Is this where we are headed.

 

A team such as the Twins, bereft of talent in minor leagues, can sign the top 4 free agents by outbidding everybody this year on back-loaded contracts without no-trade clauses just so they can sell them to other organizations next year for an influx of young talent. A way to get some tradeable assets without giving anything up to acquire good young prospects.

[Riverbrian]

How does anyone know for sure that Terry Ryan wasn't on the phone with the Marlins trying to pull the deal together and the Marlins chose the Blue Jays offer.

 

Just because the trade was made with the Jays doesn't mean that the Twins didn't put their best foot forward.

 

I don't think money is the issue... They could have made the trade and salary dumped Morneau and payroll would have been pretty reasonable.

 

Its quite possible that the Twins didn't have the trade chips that interested the Marlins to pull the deal off.

 

Sometimes it seems the bubble we live in is a little blinding. We have anger at TR because two other squads made a trade. How does this make sense?