Coronavirus Prevention Efforts Impact Twins’ Opening Road Trip

[Twins_Fan_For_Life]

Baseball games with no fans in the stands? Tampa Bay has been doing that for years. Who knew that the Ray's were so far ahead of their time?

[Mr. Brooks]

I'm saying that no one would do what is currently being done over the flu if it were to outbreak... Use some common sense, but if that's the litmus, then you may as well shut down all schools, all professional sports... well everything... forever... just hole up in your cave, because outbreaks like this happen every single year multiple times.

 

No one knows where it ends.. yeah, I get that. We do have pretty good data now on how contagious it is and how dangerous it actually is... and it's nor more dangerous than the flu. We aren't even talking measles or something like that.

Is there a reason you keep posting this even after a poster corrected you with a link to the data earlier?

 

This is being treated differently than the seasonal flu because it's far more dangerous and deadly than the seasonal flu.

 

I don't know where you heard or read that it has a lower mortality rate than the seasonal flu, but IMO it's irresponsible to not check the facts for yourself before you spread that misinformation around.

[Riverbrian]

Just using Rudy Gobert as an example.

 

He felt well enough to mock the disease at a press conference and play 30 Plus Minutes in a game on Monday March 9th.

 

By Wednesday March 11th, he tests positive, which led to the entire team being tested and the discovery that Donovan Mitchell also has it.

 

Donovan Mitchell also felt well enough to play 30 plus minutes in a game on Monday March 9th and was suited up and ready to go with the virus on March 11th.

 

No Symptoms and we have transmission taking place.

 

Now expand outward from the NBA locker room in Utah to everywhere on the planet, businesses, households, schools, churches across the globe. People are infected and unaware they are.

 

Are any of you sure that you want to use the current reported stats of detected cases and use them to support any argument?

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

you know, this virus has lower mortality rates in first world nations than the flu. No one would do this for the flu. Not saying don't be careful, but the level of panic here is not warranted.

What bothers me about this line of thinking is two-fold:

 

1. First, it's half-complete, at best. COVID-19 appears to attack people over 70 with a ferocity the flu cannot match, though thankfully it also appears to do little to childen.

 

2. We don't lock down countries for the flu for a reason: because it simply WON'T get that bad most of the time if left to spread through the population normally. As we saw in Wuhan and later Italy and Iran, taking a laissez-faire attitude with COVID-19 leads to disastrous results.

 

But if we take (sometimes severe) precautions and thwart this thing from blowing up in our faces, nay-sayers will jeer and say "see, nothing to worry about here". Literally the only way to convince statements like the above quoted is to let things go to hell in a handbasket and then wag our finger to show them how wrong they were.

 

Not a great solution. I'll err on the side of caution here, considering what we've seen for those regions of the world who did not (and, inversely, the almost non-existent effects of those that did such as South Korea and Taiwan).

 

This is a pretty irresponsible take, diehard.

[DocBauer]

A concert I was attending with my daughter this evening got cancelled here in Omaha this afternoon. Sports are being cancelled and delayed. It stinks, but is understandable and the right thing to do.

 

I think I may go viral on some Corona tonight to ease my frustrstions.

[Dantes929]

 

 

A concert I was attending with my daughter this evening got cancelled here in Omaha this afternoon. Sports are being cancelled and delayed. It stinks, but is understandable and the right thing to do.

I think I may go viral on some Corona tonight to ease my frustrstions.

Wait, you can't catch it by drinking Corona?   That's a couple weeks I won't get back.   Well, I guess adapting is a good thing anyway since I discovered Stella is much better.

  

 

[Old Twins Cap]

The only way to beat this thing is to knock it out early, before it infects a high percentage of the population.

 

Real leaders understand what they are being told by health professionals, which is, limit the spread early, save yourself a whole ton of difficulties later.

 

So, call it caution or prevention or whatever.

 

Really, it's a strategy, a smart strategy to expedite recovery.

 

The business as usual path leads to protracted, ongoing, severe, irreversible harms across society.

 

Without leadership from the Federal government, local and corporate leaders are getting this right. And, we will be grateful they did and took action early.

 

Hopefully, despite flare-ups and hotspots in a few areas, in two months time we will be able to get back to some level of normal. But it will take months. Then years before a vaccine and lack of spread render the novel coronavirus an infrequent disease rather than a pandemic.

[Dantes929]

 

What bothers me about this line of thinking is two-fold:

 

1. First, it's half-complete, at best. COVID-19 appears to attack people over 70 with a ferocity the flu cannot match, though thankfully it also appears to do little to childen.

 

2. We don't lock down countries for the flu for a reason: because it simply WON'T get that bad most of the time if left to spread through the population normally. As we saw in Wuhan and later Italy and Iran, taking a laissez-faire attitude with COVID-19 leads to disastrous results.

 

But if we take (sometimes severe) precautions and thwart this thing from blowing up in our faces, nay-sayers will jeer and say "see, nothing to worry about here". Literally the only way to convince statements like the above quoted is to let things go to hell in a handbasket and then wag our finger to show them how wrong they were.

 

Not a great solution. I'll err on the side of caution here, considering what we've seen for those regions of the world who did not (and, inversely, the almost non-existent effects of those that did such as South Korea and Taiwan).

 

This is a pretty irresponsible take, diehard.

To be fair, there are tons of people that had that first knee jerk reaction to this virus in comparing it to the flu.     Its kind of like saying back in 1982 "its not even possible for Ripken to catch Gehrig because Gehrig has only played in 162 games".....Ripken was just getting started........   

2nd everything I have read is that if unchecked this is more contagious than the flu but like Riverbrian says is even worse because of slow incubation period......    3rd, is this.... "you know, this virus has lower mortality rates in first world nations than the flu."    I guess it depends on how you define rates.    Yes, more people have died from the flu but the current death rate for the flu this last year is 1 death for every 2000 cases.   The most optimistic rate I have seen for the Corona virus is 1 death for every 100.   The best available data says 2-3 for every 100.   That's Spanish Flu territory.     Its also a scary thought that getting the virus does not immunize you from getting it again.   I don't know if that is definitive but the theory so far is that the anitbodies don't have a very long shelf life once they have been activated..........Lastly, if you are concerned about the flu, there is probably nothing aside from vaccines that will have a bigger effect on combating the flu than the good hygiene habits that this scare has promoted.    Kind of the equivalent of you don't have to believe that man made pollutants cause global warming or even that global warming is real but isn't it a good idea to have cleaner air and conserve our resources anyway.    This scare has huge short term consequences in every aspect of life right now but it is conceivable that the reaction can have some good long term benefits.    As Brock says the best possible outcome is that people are so careful that people say "See, it was all a bunch of hoohaw about nothing"   The next best outcome I guess would be for them to actually be right.  Either way wash your hands and cover your coughs.

[Twodogs]

I guess I can see them cancelling big gatherings even though I feel this is a big over reaction. However, if you're going to do it, then why are they still letting our kids go to school? I mean the school I work at has 2400 kids at it? You can't tell me that it won't get spread extremely fast in situations like that? Plus you have people of all ages at a school and where I live the people all come from different communities from around the area. So if it is so bad to cancel any large gathering then shouldn't school across the country be cancelled? I mean why are they sitting there second guessing that one and pulling the trigger so quickly on others.

 

So I guess if you are going to do it, then I'll back you and be in agreement that it's probably for the best to cancel things for 2 weeks to a month to try and get things under control, but then you need to cancel everything including school. Right?

 

And yes I'm a little bit pissed because I'm out here at Spring training and only got to see one of the four games that I purchased. But I got over that within an hour or so. But I just don't understand how they keep kids going to school on a regular basis?

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I guess I can see them cancelling big gatherings even though I feel this is a big over reaction. However, if you're going to do it, then why are they still letting our kids go to school? I mean the school I work at has 2400 kids at it? You can't tell me that it won't get spread extremely fast in situations like that? Plus you have people of all ages at a school and where I live the people all come from different communities from around the area. So if it is so bad to cancel any large gathering then shouldn't school across the country be cancelled? I mean why are they sitting there second guessing that one and pulling the trigger so quickly on others.

So I guess if you are going to do it, then I'll back you and be in agreement that it's probably for the best to cancel things for 2 weeks to a month to try and get things under control, but then you need to cancel everything including school. Right?

And yes I'm a little bit pissed because I'm out here at Spring training and only got to see one of the four games that I purchased. But I got over that within an hour or so. But I just don't understand how they keep kids going to school on a regular basis?

Did it occur to you that viruses spread from contact and that maybe where you live isn't yet susceptible to community transmission?

 

But a baseball player moves all around the country, touching and talking to people everywhere.

 

Maybe your kids' school and a sports league are different somehow.

 

Just maybe.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Or maybe this will be more succinct:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-infected-jazz-star-rudy-gobert-issues-apology-to-the-people-that-i-have-endangered/

 

"Infected Jazz star Rudy Gobert issues apology 'to the people that I have endangered'"

 

The dude walked around and licked microphones to show how NOT big of a deal this is.

 

Well, that sure worked out, just as your opinion will surely work out as well.

 

The entire NBA had to shut down because of what he did, which tells you how this all works.

[Twodogs]

Did it occur to you that viruses spread from contact and that maybe where you live isn't yet susceptible to community transmission?

 

But a baseball player moves all around the country, touching and talking to people everywhere.

 

Maybe your kids' school and a sports league are different somehow.

 

Just maybe.

Well, my school is in Southern California, so yeah, it's a high transmission area for sure. Again I said, yeah I'm pissed, but I can see why they cancelled stuff, but my point is then they really need to cancel everything, including school. I mean you can't sit here and tell me that 2400 kids plus, 100's of staff members all sitting in classes together and then getting up and sitting in new classes together and then going to lunch together, I mean 2 lunches that's 1300 kids plus staff eating together, etc.... Even if you only have half a brain, you can't even make an argument that that is safe.

[Twodogs]

It's starting, so that's good. Pomona USD shut down, Glendora unified shut down, San Fransisco shut down all schools, Simi Valley shut them all down and Los Angeles unified is close to doing it also. That would be a good idea to keep all of the kids away from school for at least 2 to 4 weeks to slow the spread of the virus. At least until they can get a handle on it. Or develop a vaccine or something.

[Mr. Brooks]

Every school superintendent in MN is having a conference call today to discuss their options.

I am guessing they will decide to close the schools for the remainder of the school year.