2020 draft class

[gunnarthor]

Obviously, it's never too early to get excited about the upcoming draft. Pipeline has a top 100 up already.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2020/?list=draft

 

Twins pick 27th and then have a second round and a collective bargaining pick after the second round so probably somewhere around picks 61 and 69 or so after the FA signings are set (please correct me if I'm wrong).

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/top-100-2020-mlb-draft-prospects

 

“I think it’s one of the strongest classes as far as college arms, up and down,” a National League scouting director said. “There might be 15 college pitchers taken in the first round. With Friday night starters, we’re trying to figure out how to see all of them. We’re going to have to split up national looks because we’re going to run out of days.”

“I think that’s realistic,” an AL scouting director said. “I don’t know if the first round will be half college pitchers, but you can make the case that there will be 15-plus guys who could go in the first round, if not the first day, which is a significant change from last year.”

 

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“I think you’re going to see a lot of college pitchers drafted and a lot of over-drafts of college bats because guys won’t want to take the risk on guys who might not profile as first-round picks,” the NL scouting director said.

“The high school pitching group is fairly small this year in terms of potential first-rounders,” the AL director agreed. “I think there’s a significant drop-off after the first few names.”

 

Too early to know what the Twins will do but it looks like a weak group for HS bats and arms, groups the Twins have targeted a bit in recent years. 

 

[Dman]

We would have been better positioned for this draft with last years picks as we needed pitching more than anything else.  Hopefully the good arms last into the second round where we have two picks this year.

 

I like it when the Twins get a nice mix of high school and college players because it strengthens the farm from the lower levels on up and allows the team to supplement the system with college players later on.  Since we pick so low this year we will be hard pressed to add any real good quality high schoolers especially since there appear to be so few.  So lower levels might suffer a bit in 2020.

 

Once again my hope is they focus on pitching early and late but they will likely mix it up and go for guys they think will be fairly safe bets to make it to MLB.  I hope they make good choices.

[Mr. Brooks]

I'll make a way too early prediction of local boy Max Meyer.

[2wins87]

Here's the up-to-date order that will change a little bit once Donaldson and Ozuna sign:

https://www.mlb.com/draft/2020/order

 

The Twins pick 27th, 61st, 69th, and 101st as of now.

[2wins87]

After signing Donaldson and the Astros' loss of picks as a sign stealing punishment, the draft order has shifted some.

 

The Twins will lose their competitive balance B pick (which hasn't yet been updated since it's not official).

 

They should pick 27th, 60th, and 99th.

 

If Ozuna re-signs with the Cardinals this should not change, if he signs with the Rangers they will lose their second round pick and the Cardinals will gain one after the competitive balance round B, and the Twins picks should be 27th, 59th, and 99th.

[gunnarthor]

I forgot that we'd lose a draft pick to get Donaldson. Obviously, that's ok but still a bummer. Maybe they can trade for one?

[h2oface]

 

After signing Donaldson and the Astros' loss of picks as a sign stealing punishment, the draft order has shifted some.

 

The Twins will lose their competitive balance B pick (which hasn't yet been updated since it's not official).

 

They should pick 27th, 60th, and 99th.

 

If Ozuna re-signs with the Cardinals this should not change, if he signs with the Rangers they will lose their second round pick and the Cardinals will gain one after the competitive balance round B, and the Twins picks should be 27th, 59th, and 99th.

 

I had read that they will lose the 3rd round pick, but keep the competitive balance round B pick.

[SF Twins Fan]

Also, the draft position could change a little bit with Houston losing a 1st and a 2nd round pick.

[2wins87]

 

Also, the draft position could change a little bit with Houston losing a 1st and a 2nd round pick.

 

I already accounted for that

[2wins87]

 

I had read that they will lose the 3rd round pick, but keep the competitive balance round B pick.

 

My reading of the rules is that they lose their "third-highest selection", which would be the competitive balance pick since it comes before the 3rd round.  Maybe there are some other rules I'm missing, but I'm guessing that whatever article that came from confused "third-highest" with "third-round".

[Twins33]

I saw on twitter that the competitive balance picks are protected in this scenario (signing a QO player). Couldn’t confirm it with the rules though and I don’t remember who put out the tweet. 

[Dman]

I had read earlier that comp B picks were protected but then looked online and it appears that the third highest pick regardless is the one that gets taken which kind of makes more sense to me. So based on what I read we lose the comp B pick for signing the bringer of rain.

 

"Signing Donaldson, who rejected a qualifying offer from the Braves, will cost the Twins their third-highest pick in the 2020. That’s their Competitive Balance Round B selection — currently slotted to come in at No. 73 overall. The Braves, conversely, will receive a compensatory selection between the end of Competitive Balance Round B and the beginning of Round 3. Coincidentally, the comp pick they’ll receive will land in the exact same range as the pick that Minnesota is surrendering."

[h2oface]

This from the MLB beat writer,Do-Hyoung Park, on the Twins site....

 

Does this affect the Twins' 2020 Draft?

Yes. Donaldson rejected a qualifying offer from the Braves earlier this offseason, meaning that the Twins will forfeit their third-round Draft pick in 2020, while Atlanta will receive a compensation pick after Competitive Balance Round B.

https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/josh-donaldson-impact-on-twins-in-2020-and-beyond

 

Certainly it will be clarified soon and we can all stop guessing. 

 

Competitive Balance picks are unique in that they are the only draft picks that can be traded, but only traded one time. So that brings to question, if the competitive balance pick is surrendered to another team, as in this case possibly as the compensation, can that team trade the pick if desired, as the "original" team?

 

http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/competitive-balance-draft-picks

 

 

 

Then there is this....... from this link.... so it looks like we will lose the competitive balance pick and the bonus pool $..... but it doesn't address if that pick can now be traded by the receiving team.

 

http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/qualifying-offer

 

"(Note: Each pick in the first 10 rounds of the Draft has an assigned value, and the total for each of a club's selections equals what it can spend on signing bonuses for players selected in those rounds without incurring a penalty. When a team forfeits a Draft pick, it also surrenders the accompanying bonus pool money associated that pick, independent from any money forfeited from its international bonus pool per the rules below.)"

[Dman]

This from MLB.com "Examples: A team with one pick in each round of the 2019 Draft would lose its third-round pick. A team with two first-round picks and one pick in each subsequent round would lose its second-round pick."

 

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying-offer-rules-explained-c259650658

 

[2wins87]

Apparently it is their third round pick according to the updated draft order, which will probably be final: https://www.mlb.com/draft/2020/order

 

I don't see why this is from the rules that I've read but I'll take it

 

Picking 27th 60th and 67th isn't bad.  They have an opportunity to maybe do something a little more interesting with the 60th and 67th selections, which will be slotted around $1 million each.

[sdangus]

I think they lose their competitive round B pick (their 3rd pick in the draft) and nothing else.

[Monkeypaws]

3 of the top 67 works for me. 

 

 

[Dman]

 

I had read that they will lose the 3rd round pick, but keep the competitive balance round B pick.

 

So finally MLB trade rumors got it right and realized the Comp pick is protected so you are indeed correct we lose our 3rd round pick which is nice because that means we pick at 67 instead of 101 allowing us to pick 34 spots earlier and likely gaining extra cash to spend as well. 

 

Sorry I argued your point and have to admit I was confused about a lot of information out there.

 

https://www.mlb.com/draft/2020/order

[jimbo92107]

I like that young farm boy. Tall, lanky arms, easy sidearm delivery.

 

 

Walter something...

[sampleSizeOfOne]

I think we traded the aforementioned competitive round pick to LA as part of bringing Maeda in.

 

So we are left only 1st and 2nd round picks in the top 3 rounds?

 

We'll manage somehow...

[rdehring]

 

I think we traded the aforementioned competitive round pick to LA as part of bringing Maeda in.

So we are left only 1st and 2nd round picks in the top 3 rounds?

We'll manage somehow...

Yes, we will have a hole, comp pick and 3rd round, where the Twins should have gotten a couple nice prospects.

 

But the draft is only part of the puzzle.  Considering that 7 of our top 12 position players are International Players, getting the right kids to sign there is as important or more important than the draft.  Just that they are two years younger and we won't see them playing stateside for at least two years.