Sam Dyson Domestic Violence

[Vanimal46]

Moderation note from John Bonnes: The below post is showing a tweet of an instagram post. It appears to be Sam Dyson's girlfriend accusing him on Instagram of domestic abuse involving her and their cat. This thread may (and probably should) evoke some strong emotions folks. Please be aware we'll be moderating this thread heavily. We remind you, there is a lot we don't know yet, and we ask that everyone think before they post and tread lightly.
 
 
https://twitter.com/biaginger/status/1199326376903561216?s=19

The text in the Instagram post:

> Long post I want to say a few things about this box. This was the first year I got this box. I am turning 12 soon and this was my first time ever getting this cute box from target. I was able to jump on top of it, look outside, scratch the top, go under and play hide and seek, look through the little window to see what’s going on. I loved this box. As you can see in the second photo, someone I trusted with my safety, protection, and love did the unthinkable while I was inside the box.

> No one deserves to have their trust broken, but to have your trust broken and not understand why is the hardest thing to grasp at this point. Mom has put up with a lot and some people won’t believe her and that’s okay. This isn’t about believing a person or situation. This is about safety at this point.

> Mom took me to grandmas for good because unlike my previous “safe space,” GRANDMAS is a safe space. I don’t have to worry about getting hurt because of anger or control. I don’t have to be scared of yelling and things being hurled at mom and me. I don’t have to be scared anymore.

> This was a preventable incident. This did not need to happen, but it did. The moment I, Snuckles, got involved was the moment mom said goodbye. Love your fur babies enough to do the right thing.

> At the end of the day we don’t make people do anything. We can’t control their actions and behaviors. What we can control is how we deal with the situation. Mom won’t allow there to be a second incident because my mom truly loves me enough to say goodbye to toxic behavior and people. No one deserves to be intimidated, scared, worthless, and hopeless. Please remember that. Everyone deserves real happiness

Not only was Dyson hurt during his tenure with the Twins, he's not a good human being. Glad he's no longer with the team.

[dex8425]

Very sad. I don't think the domestic violence/abuse problem is limited to MLB. Are incidents higher in MLB relationships than other relationships?  

 

Edit: I see the statement was made by Joe Biagnini's gf. I guess she would know more than me. 

[Squirrel]

[John Bonnes]

Seems like a good place to mention that if you are in the Twin Cities and facing domestic abuse, one great organization you can reach out to is Tubman. They have a 24-hour crisis line at 612-825-0000 and shelter services. They can also provide help with mental and chemical health, legal services, youth programs, and workshops and support groups. You can find a lot more at https://www.tubman.org/get-help/.

 

 

 

 

[Vanimal46]

Are incidents higher in MLB relationships than other relationships?

 

I don't know if the frequency is higher in MLB compared to other relationships. Obviously it gets more publicity because of their status as a professional athlete.

 

The MLB said years ago they were going to take a hard stance against domestic violence. Well, their last couple of tests (Osuna, Kapler, and Larry Baer) haven't been hard stances at all.

[Mike Sixel]

If he's guilty, good riddance.

[MMMordabito]

I'm sorry, but a picture of smashed cardboard box just doesn't put this in the same category as say Josh Hamilton, who apparently isn't supposed to be called a horrible person on this site.

 

Is there anything other than this tweet that depicts this incident?  I have a hard time taking someone who tries to project themself as the cat seriously.

 

I have a cat who can be kind of an a-hole from time to time.  Who knows? Maybe Sam was relaxing and the cat came up and tried to "assert" himself with a nose bite or toe scratch.  Smashing a cardboard box was probably better than smashing the cat.  For all we know, Sam hates cats but made an exception.  I hate mosquitos and react violently towards them.  I know it's not the same, but then again, I don't see any injured cat photos.  

 

I'm calling this out as over-reaction and a social media attention grab until I see more information.

[Mike Sixel]

I'm sorry, but a picture of smashed cardboard box just doesn't put this in the same category as say Josh Hamilton, who apparently isn't supposed to be called a horrible person on this site.

 

Is there anything other than this tweet that depicts this incident? I have a hard time taking someone who tries to project themself as the cat seriously.

 

I have a cat who can be kind of an a-hole from time to time. Who knows? Maybe Sam was relaxing and the cat came up and tried to "assert" himself with a nose bite or toe scratch. Smashing a cardboard box was probably better than smashing the cat. For all we know, Sam hates cats but made an exception. I hate mosquitos and react violently towards them. I know it's not the same, but then again, I don't see any injured cat photos.

 

I'm calling this out as over-reaction and a social media attention grab until I see more information.

You have this right, but I never understand not believing the potential victim as a first response. Like, I just don't get it at all. But then, I know abused women and how hard it is to come forward....

[bustedstuff88]

This is an incredibly confusing post...

[SF Twins Fan]

 

The only victim I see is an inanimate object.  The tweet stated that a second incident would not be allowed. If this is the level of egregiousness of the first incident, then this is just silly.  

 

 

The cat was supposedly inside the box when Sam Dyson threw it across the room and destroyed it. Also, she originally posted from her own account and then posted it from the cat's point of view on SAM DYSON's account, which SAM DYSON runs for the cat. Just doing a little bit or research would do you well. Only took me 5 mins to find this information.

[Cody Pirkl]

 

I'm sorry, but a picture of smashed cardboard box just doesn't put this in the same category as say Josh Hamilton, who apparently isn't supposed to be called a horrible person on this site.

 

Is there anything other than this tweet that depicts this incident?  I have a hard time taking someone who tries to project themself as the cat seriously.

 

I have a cat who can be kind of an a-hole from time to time.  Who knows? Maybe Sam was relaxing and the cat came up and tried to "assert" himself with a nose bite or toe scratch.  Smashing a cardboard box was probably better than smashing the cat.  For all we know, Sam hates cats but made an exception.  I hate mosquitos and react violently towards them.  I know it's not the same, but then again, I don't see any injured cat photos.  

 

I'm calling this out as over-reaction and a social media attention grab until I see more information.

His girlfriend made a post days before that didn't receive much attention. I would guess she did the same behind the shroud of the cat's social media account because it would draw more attention to the issue. Also, they pointed out that the cat was supposedly in the box when he destroyed it. 

 

The notion that maybe the cat did something that made him mad and he reacted violently isn't going to do much in the way of justifying it. I have a dog that used to bite relentlessly as a puppy. If you're somebody who's going to react violently to that, you probably shouldn't have an animal and you've got problems if you react that way.

 

Nobody is asking for him to get thrown in jail over a social media post, but this is absolutely a story that should be drawing the attention it is, and if there's any truth to it, there should be repercussions.

[MMMordabito]

 

The cat was supposedly inside the box when Sam Dyson threw it across the room and destroyed it. Also, she originally posted from her own account and then posted it from the cat's point of view on SAM DYSON's account, which SAM DYSON runs for the cat. Just doing a little bit or research would do you well. Only took me 5 mins to find this information.

 

Please post the link to the account of throwing it across the room.  All I see are a smashed cardboard box and the very vague word "unthinkable".  

 

Let me divine what I think happened: 

 

Cat bites or scratches Sam. Sam gets pissed and yells at the cat. Cat runs away and hides in the box.  Sam states something like "You think you can hide from me in there" and destroys box to get cat out.

 

Again, cats can be a-holes.

 

Bad behavior  = Probably

 

Osuna or Hamilton behavior = No way

[MMMordabito]

 

His girlfriend made a post days before that didn't receive much attention. I would guess she did the same behind the shroud of the cat's social media account because it would draw more attention to the issue. Also, they pointed out that the cat was supposedly in the box when he destroyed it. 

 

The notion that maybe the cat did something that made him mad and he reacted violently isn't going to do much in the way of justifying it. I have a dog that used to bite relentlessly as a puppy. If you're somebody who's going to react violently to that, you probably shouldn't have an animal and you've got problems if you react that way.

 

Nobody is asking for him to get thrown in jail over a social media post, but this is absolutely a story that should be drawing the attention it is, and if there's any truth to it, there should be repercussions.

 

Comparing a canine to a feline is just bad for your argument.     

[SF Twins Fan]

 

Please post the link to the account of throwing it across the room.  All I see are a smashed cardboard box and the very vague word "unthinkable".  

 

Let me divine what I think happened: 

 

Cat bites or scratches Sam. Sam gets pissed and yells at the cat. Cat runs away and hides in the box.  Sam states something like "You think you can hide from me in there" and destroys box to get cat out.

 

Again, cats can be a-holes.

 

Bad behavior  = Probably

 

Osuna or Hamilton behavior = No way

 

 

You literally just had to click on the original link and scroll down to read a few more posts. 

 

https://twitter.com/biaginger/status/1199358600063401985?s=20

[Vanimal46]

 

This is an incredibly confusing post...

 

Sam Dyson's girlfriend made a post a couple days ago about her domestic violence experience. Didn't gain much traction. So she wrote a separate post in the viewpoint of the cat to generate more awareness. It worked. 

[MMMordabito]

 

Well, if he did it, it does. You have no idea what happened, as you said.........

 

also, you didn't answer the question. How does you assuming she's not telling the full truth help anyone?

 

I never said she isn't telling her full truth.  It's just that the truth that she's provided so far appears to be over-dramatized and has very little supporting evidence.  Not assuming anything close to an actual assault or act of violence protects us from the Bennetts and Smollets of the world. It protects the Perrys and Counts of the world of well.

 

 

[MMMordabito]

 

You literally just had to click on the original link and scroll down to read a few more posts. 

 

https://twitter.com/biaginger/status/1199358600063401985?s=20

 

The only thing I see from the original account is a screenshot of a self-reflective post.  The only mention of throwing the box is from this Victoria person who states that she doesn't even follow Alexis.  

[MMMordabito]

 

I just think you've already made your point and can maybe not post 500 more times to tell us about how this is all a big conspiracy against Sam Dyson.

 

I'm just responding to questions and posts where I was supposedly led in the direction of actual information.  

 

I'm not stating that this is a conspiracy.  I'm merely playing devil's advocate and am not willing to jump to any conclusions.

 

Here is an example of a better way to share this story:

 

https://www.12up.com/posts/reliever-sam-dyson-s-girlfriend-appears-to-accuse-him-of-domestic-violence-on-their-cat-s-instagram-01dtm3kgmf95

[Vanimal46]

I'm just responding to questions and posts where I was supposedly led in the direction of actual information.

 

I'm not stating that this is a conspiracy. I'm merely playing devil's advocate and am not willing to jump to any conclusions.

 

Here is an example of a better way to share this story:

 

https://www.12up.com/posts/reliever-sam-dyson-s-girlfriend-appears-to-accuse-him-of-domestic-violence-on-their-cat-s-instagram-01dtm3kgmf95

The content in the story you published is exactly what was posted here. Not sure why you're up in arms about the information presented on this thread.

[MMMordabito]

 

The content in the story you published is exactly what was posted here. Not sure why you're up in arms about the information presented on this thread.

 

Here is your OP statement:

 

"Not only was Dyson hurt during his tenure with the Twins, he's not a good human being. Glad he's no longer with the team."

 

 

 

The 12up piece has statements like these that make it much better reporting:

 

"The girlfriend of ex-Minnesota Twins reliever Sam Dyson recently took to Instagram to appear to accuse him of domestic violence, claiming she's moved herself and their cat to a safer space."

 

"It's important to note that nothing has been confirmed as of yet"

 

"Again, nothing has been confirmed, so stay tuned. This is a developing story and we will provide updates once they are made available."

 

[bunsen82]

Sadly back to where we were 2 years ago.  

 

With that being said,  wait until the facts come out.  These are not facts, these are accusations.  Animal abuse and bullying and physical abuse are disgusting and horrible but we do not have the information yet to support that.   Besides baseball she should have filed a report with 911 for animal cruelty, let them come to a conclusion, then go from there. 

 

In the Sano thread and here again the first course of action should be to file a report.  Don't post it to social media, for a variety of reasons.  Survivor had an exact case in point two weeks ago.  One individual felt another contestant was being inappropriate with touching ect, and it deeply effected her.  Another individual I believe had similar interactions and concerns but not to the level of the 1st.  She then gets a third contestant to say she was also physically touched and she felt very uncomfortable.  The two were doing this merely for gameplay.  Yet a fourth contestant who stood up for the girls and was willing to vote out the accused individual but then became a scapegoat for causing the issues and potentially hurting this mans reputation - (I think there is more to come on this in future episodes).   You have to know the intent of the individual giving the information whether it is factual, because as in the survivor episode some individuals do have alterior motives. 

 

Ultimately this hurts those being abuse, those being falsely accused and the movement in general.  I am not quite as vocal as I was two years ago, aging a bit I guess and realizing there is more abuse going on out there than even I can even imagine, but still not willing to jump at the first shout because other individuals better than me can dig into this and find if there is any validity to it and appropriately punish through the courts and or MLB. 

[nicksaviking]

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[Nick Nelson]

As an update, MLB is officially investigating this situation, per Ken Rosenthal and Katie Strang of The Athletic. Sources confirmed that Dyson was the individual being referenced in these posts.

 

 

https://theathletic.com/1412460/2019/11/26/mlb-investigating-pitcher-sam-dyson-for-domestic-violence-after-allegations-posted-on-social-media/

[brvama]

One of the troublesome trends we are seeing nowadays is the jump to judgement before the facts are known. While I may or may not believe an accusation I’ll wait for both sides before I condemn someone. Every one has a story - let’s hear them all.

 

Mike, “the tiny itsy bitty portion of cases“ seem shortsighted. Look at all the rape allocations that have ruin people’s lives because of false accusations.

 

The problem is that we allow our bias into our analysis of information received, pro or con, immediately upon the reception of that info. It is so easy to make a false allegation on social media without any repercussions. And it’s so difficult to recover one’s reputation afterward. At the same time, false reports diminish the attention needed in actual occurrences.  This creates a atmosphere of the abused being reluctant to report it and the damage done to the innocent,

 

I think we can all agree these actions should not be tolerated at the same time recognizing the accused as innocent until proven guilty. I trust that the judicial system will sort this out and at that time I will be prepared to take a side. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

I find both this subject and the thread terribly disappointing.

 

I expect better of Twins Daily.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

One of the troublesome trends we are seeing nowadays is the jump to judgement before the facts are known. While I may or may not believe an accusation I’ll wait for both sides before I condemn someone. Every one has a story - let’s hear them all.

 

Mike, “the tiny itsy bitty portion of cases“ seem shortsighted. Look at all the rape allocations that have ruin people’s lives because of false accusations.

 

The problem is that we allow our bias into our analysis of information received, pro or con, immediately upon the reception of that info. It is so easy to make a false allegation on social media without any repercussions. And it’s so difficult to recover one’s reputation afterward. At the same time, false reports diminish the attention needed in actual occurrences.  This creates a atmosphere of the abused being reluctant to report it and the damage done to the innocent,

 

I think we can all agree these actions should not be tolerated at the same time recognizing the accused as innocent until proven guilty. I trust that the judicial system will sort this out and at that time I will be prepared to take a side. 

You're right that temperance is needed but you're holding a status quo point that is really dangerous.

 

Show me a credible source that has found out a significant number of violence against women reports have been falsely accused.

 

Literally every study I've ever seen from a credible source (you know, the kind that do research) shows the number to be shockingly low, even moreso when you add on the number of cases never reported in the first place.

 

Don't be the guy who uses the "danger" of the 2% to discount the 98% who legitimately need help.

[biggentleben]

 

I find both this subject and the thread terribly disappointing.

 

I expect better of Twins Daily.

 

Preach.

[brvama]

 

You're right that temperance is needed but you're holding a status quo point that is really dangerous.

 

Show me a credible source that has found out a significant number of violence against women reports have been falsely accused.

 

Literally every study I've ever seen from a credible source (you know, the kind that do research) shows the number to be shockingly low, even moreso when you add on the number of cases never reported in the first place.

 

Don't be the guy who uses the "danger" of the 2% to discount the 98% who legitimately need help.

 

Brock, now where in my comments did I say that a significant number of reports are false? I’m sorry you reached that conclusion. However, they are out there and social media has contributed to the damage individual lives through suicide and loss of reputation. You can look at the hearings for the SCOTUS as an example of false allegations.

 

ALL allegations need to be taken seriously. But I believe as the public we need to reserve judgement of the accused until we know the facts. That was my point. And if you feel my position is dangerous, then so be it. I’ll still be on the side that one’s innocent until proven guilty. Otherwise, we have a society of vigilantes. 

[Squirrel]

 

You can look at the hearings for the SCOTUS as an example of false allegations.

 

 

MODERATOR WARNING:

 

Do NOT go there. That is a terrible analogy to what this thread is addressing and has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Do NOT politicize the issue of domestic violence and abuse. This goes for everyone moving forward.

 

As far as I'm concerned this thread is done. There is nothing pertinent left to say regarding the allegations Sam Dyson is facing. The report is out there, MLB is investigating, and until further information is known, this thread is done.

 

Most of us know someone who is or was a victim of domestic violence. You may not know it, but it is highly likely you do. John Bonnes' post early on is a good place to start.

 

 

 

Seems like a good place to mention that if you are in the Twin Cities and facing domestic abuse, one great organization you can reach out to is Tubman. They have a 24-hour crisis line at 612-825-0000 and shelter services. They can also provide help with mental and chemical health, legal services, youth programs, and workshops and support groups. You can find a lot more at https://www.tubman.org/get-help/.