Jose Berrios' reaction to the Morin for cash considerations move: They just want to get money

[the_brute_squad]

If Berrios is tweeting this be assured he's not the only one in the clubhouse thinking it. The Twins are hitting the tough part of their schedule while the Tribe hit their easy part. A dwindling lead, tough schedule, and no reinforcements puts pressure on a team. They can wither or solidify. I'm worried it may be the former.

[Alex]

the bullpen has cost the Twins three games just since the AS break.

Take out Rogers and it is terrible, no matter how lucky they might have gotten for a time.

I’d like to see the bullpen improved as well, but in their three losses, the offense scored, 2, 3, and 4 runs. A bit more run support (or fielding) in two of those games and the equation changes. You’re not going to win a lot of games scoring 4 or fewer runs.

[BattleYourTailOff]

Santana felt the same way about the ownership. It’s not the FO, they’re just a reflection of who their bosses are. Berrios gets that too.

[tvagle]

Santana...Escobar...Dozier...players who Berrios came up with and all had issue with negotiations

 

Now Morin for cash...I can see Berrios's perspective

[SwainZag]

 

Santana...Escobar...Dozier...players who Berrios came up with and all had issue with negotiations

 

Now Morin for cash...I can see Berrios's perspective

 

Santana was traded 5 years before Berrios was drafted.  Did Dozier and Escobar have trouble with negotiations or were they both just traded?

[tvagle]

 

Santana was traded 5 years before Berrios was drafted.  Did Dozier and Escobar have trouble with negotiations or were they both just traded?

Ervin not Johan

 

There were whispers and notes with both Escobar and Dozier

[SwainZag]

 

Ervin not Johan

 

There were whispers and notes with both Escobar and Dozier

 

Ah Ervin, I seemingly erased him from my memory somehow.  What was the issue with him?  He got paid in free agency then got hurt, were there contract problems?  

[mudcat14]

As I understand the DFA process, a team has 72 hours to deal, then pass through waivers and then release a player.  Waiver claims are granted based on team records (worst to first).  I would assume the Twins were willing to let Morin go for nothing, but the Phils wanted him bad enough to jump another claimant and offered cash compensation.  Were the Twins supposed to turn it down?  I expect the same thing will happen with Magill.  Possibly a player will come in return, but likely just cash.

[BattleYourTailOff]

The Twins are done. This is another prime example of a miser of an owner. This is pathetic.

Everyone who says “don’t panic the twins have an easy schedule coming up”... you do realize the Twins didn’t buzzsaw through Detroit like the Indians did. Beating bad teams isn’t a guarantee. The Indians are doing it. The twins haven’t looked like they can this last month.

[yarnivek1972]

The Mets were supposed to be an easy team to beat.

[Jham]

Morin and Magill were a big part of the early success for this team. They're better than what we're staffing now. The problem isn't the front of the pen. it's the lack of depth at the back.

[USAFChief]

I’d like to see the bullpen improved as well, but in their three losses, the offense scored, 2, 3, and 4 runs. A bit more run support (or fielding) in two of those games and the equation changes. You’re not going to win a lot of games scoring 4 or fewer runs.

a better bullpen and perhaps they turn two of those into wins.

 

You're not going to score 6 plus runs every night. You need to win sometimes when you dont.

 

This bullpen was never going to last the season, that's been pretty apparent since day 1.

 

Besides which, I don't know what to do about the offense. Scuffling recently, sure, but how do you propose to improve it?

[Mr. Brooks]

a better bullpen and perhaps they turn two of those into wins.

 

You're not going to score 6 plus runs every night. You need to win sometimes when you dont.

 

This bullpen was never going to last the season, that's been pretty apparent since day 1.

 

Besides which, I don't know what to do about the offense. Scuffling recently, sure, but how do you propose to improve it?

You could make batting practice mandatory.

I supported Baldelli's mantra of "you're professionals, prepare how you see fit", because it came with the qualifier, "as long as it works".

It's no longer working.

[Jham]

Speaking of, Kimbrel now has 6 straight scoreless appearances. 6ip, 9k, 5 saves...

[yarnivek1972]

 

Morin and Magill were a big part of the early success for this team.

 

No, they really weren’t. Of all the Twins relievers that have relieved at least 5 games, those two have the lowest average leverage index.

 

 

They're better than what we're staffing now.

 

 

By what measure?

 

 

 

The problem isn't the front of the pen. it's the lack of depth at the back.

 

The problem is that everyone not named Taylor Rogers is mediocre to bad.

[Riverbrian]

About the only person I understand here is Berrios. 

 

Morin was a teammate... maybe a friend. It was a show of support. 

 

Selling Morin for the baseball equivalent of 20 bucks instead of not getting 20 bucks isn't a concern. 

 

He was gone... he wasn't coming back. The organization is going to move forward with Berrios. 

 

If this move renders Berrios to ruin... Berrios is easily ruined. 

 

Not every day goes perfect for any of us and most of us get up the next morning and we get back to work regardless. 

 

Last September, it was the team falling apart over Buxton... This year it's Morin/Berrios. I didn't think Buxton would cause an issue going forward and I don't think this will do anything either. 

 

[Jham]

No, they really weren’t. Of all the Twins relievers that have relieved at least 5 games, those two have the lowest average leverage index.

 

 

 

 

By what measure?

 

 

 

 

The problem is that everyone not named Taylor Rogers is mediocre to bad.

That's ridiculous. Someone has to pitch low leverage innings. They performed well most of the time. We had a top 10 pen most of the season by era as I recall. I don't think anyone would argue that Morin and Magill each have a serious plus pitch. They've each flashed in the bigs but haven't put it all together for a full year. So my statement on "better" is based on stuff and who they replaced. The popular opinion is that these 2 were just more dumpster dives. Hilde and Romero and Vasquez and Mejia were expected to be huge parts of this pen. They hurt the team and were sent down. Magill and Morin took the ball whenever asked and for the most part, held it together. They didn't have options, and would likely be replaced as soon as a trade was made or a prospect arm was considered an upgrade. But that hasn't happened. And my guess is we'll need arms in the Yankees series even if our starters pitch well. They did everything expected of them and deserved better.

 

Regarding the pen other than Rogers begin average, that's exactly what I meant when I said the front of the pen isn't the problem. So why cut the guys at the front?

[Thrylos]

I think that it was just an unfortunate attempt at humor in a language he has not quite mastered.   Not a big deal.

[jz7233]

 

Than whom?

Morin.

[Doomtints]

This looks to me like Berrios was trying to comfort a friend and was not a big political statement.

[Doomtints]

 

I’d like to see the bullpen improved as well, but in their three losses, the offense scored, 2, 3, and 4 runs. A bit more run support (or fielding) in two of those games and the equation changes. You’re not going to win a lot of games scoring 4 or fewer runs.

 

The Rangers had a run in the late 90s where they scored a hell of a lot of runs, but also allowed a lot of runs. Here is the result.

 

 

Year             Tm   G  W  L Ties W-L% pythW-L%   Finish GB     Playoffs   R  RA

1999   TexasRangers 162 95 67    0 .586     .544 1st of 4 -- LostLDS(3-0) 945 859

1998   TexasRangers 162 88 74    0 .543     .535 1st of 4 -- LostLDS(3-0) 940 871

1996   TexasRangers 163 90 72    1 .556     .568 1st of 4 -- LostLDS(3-1) 928 799

 

[Twodogs]

I think they were prob just friends and Berrios felt bad about it because Morin wasnt worth any more than some cash considerations. Maybe Falvine could have their soda machines stocked for the year whatever they released him he wasn't coming back. This is a case where guys need to learn to not necessarily go to social media all of the time.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I think that it was just an unfortunate attempt at humor in a language he has not quite mastered.   Not a big deal.

  

I think they were prob just friends and Berrios felt bad about it because Morin wasnt worth any more than some cash considerations.

Yeah, I read this more as Berrios reassuring Morin (like "it's not you, it's them"), rather than complaining about the front office.

[Rosterman]

If the choice is a trade insted of an outright claim. You make the Trade. I guess cash is better than nothing. But, yes, it looks bad.

 

[jimbo92107]

 

Well at least better than losing Morin for nothing.

Their motives are as pure as a devout Ferengi. 

[D.C Twins]

 

Ironically enough the bullpen has performed better than the starting pitching and the offense over the past 5-6 weeks.  Maybe some of the players should look at themselves and figure out how to play good baseball again instead of blaming the front office, we all know they are capable of it.  

Nope.... the bullpen is a ticking time bomb and Rogers arm is about to come off if they don't find someone else to share the burden of high leverage situations.

[USAFChief]

Are we blaming the bullpen for last night's game? Twins last scored in the 3rd inning and Odorizzi gave up the tying run.

 

Are we blaming the bullpen in the 4-3 lost the Indians? Twins had the bases loaded with zero outs and could only manage 1 run to the tie the game. Yes, May gave up the HR to Santana, but that's all the runs they scored the entire game.

 

I get it, the meta thing is to rag on the bullpen and the front office, but outside of a few games where they blew up, the offense really hasn't been there for an extended period of time now.

can we blame the pen for coughing up another one today?

 

Tough to lay much blame on Rogers, he's expected to get too many outs.

 

But "hey, let's turn Littell into a high level guy," well, I think it's fair to question that plan.

[USAFChief]

On his Score North show last month, Glenn Perkins stated that money was the reason for trading Ryan Pressly last year. The Twins did not want to pay for his arbitration year.

Maybe this is part of it.

link?

[nicksaviking]

On his Score North show last month, Glenn Perkins stated that money was the reason for trading Ryan Pressly last year. The Twins did not want to pay for his arbitration year.

Maybe this is part of it.

Then Perkins doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[Highabove]

 

link?

I   went back to some of the replays of the Perkins show and i could not find the quote.

I will presume that i was mistaken and delete my original post.