Article: Twins Game Recap (7/19): Twins Have No Answer To A’s pitching

[HawksNest]

 

Thats... if that happens, its cowardly in the extreme.

 

Agreed!  really, really hope that doesn't happen.

[SwainZag]

A couple things to note:

 

1. Even after the treading water for the past 5 weeks, the Twins still hold the 3rd best record in the American League and 2nd best run differential.  

 

2.  The Indians have basically been unbeatable.  They are 22-7 in their last 29 games.  They would have gained on anyone.  Winning 75% of your games will do that.

 

 

[ChrisKnutson]

I get that Cleveland’s playing really well right now, but there’s no excuse for the FO’s lack of urgency. If we don’t win the division, we all know who’s to blame.

[jorgenswest]

I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

 

They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

 

The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

[ashbury]

 

I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

Or, they decide that that IS the price of urgency.

 

Sometimes, I comparison-shop the hell out of a product. Other times, I pay full retail at the most expensive shop that happens to be right around the corner, because I want a bandaid for the knee I just scraped when I unexpectedly tripped during my walk downtown, and the cost of waiting would affect me some other way than the direct cost.

 

I'm not saying to trade Royce Lewis for a bullpen rental arm. But there is such a thing as false economy.

 

I've been a stay the course, conserve the assets, guy for years. This is not the year.

[h2oface]

 

I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

 

This should be no problem. It is an established fact that a top reliever can be had for a couple of mediocre prospects not even in AA ball yet........ proof is in the Pressly trade to Houston! (and our front office was the architect of the phenomenon) 

 

They should even know the exact players it takes to get the "next Pressly".

 

 

Edited July 20, 2019 by h2oface

[h2oface]

 

We always were a .500 team playing well above projections. And it was fun. Maybe they’ll find that again, maybe we’ll get some help, but I think most thought we were a .500 before the season started.

I believe I picked 93 wins - or maybe 92, I can't remember exactly. Happy to not be in the "gang" that knows so much. If they play just over .500 from here on out........... that is what the win total will be.

Edited July 20, 2019 by h2oface

[jorgenswest]

This should be no problem. It is an established fact that a top reliever can be had for a couple of mediocre prospects not even in AA ball yet........ proof is in the Pressly trade to Houston! (and our front office was the architect of the phenomenon)

 

They should even know the exact players it takes to get the "next Pressly".

I think that will happen but it is going to take 10 days.

 

I do think lower tier players will get moved earlier. I do think teams might be trying to move some difficult to trade contracts. The Twins might make one of these deals and get a 7th inning guy we see as similar to May in the next few days. They need someone to match with Rogers though. They need a top starter. There aren’t very many of these guys and the sellers are wise to wait and play the buyers against each other.

 

The Twins would have to make them an offer that they are absolutely certain won’t be beat.

Edited July 20, 2019 by jorgenswest

[h2oface]

 

I think that will happen but it is going to take 10 days.

I do think lower tier players will get moved earlier. I do think teams might be trying to move some difficult to trade contracts. The Twins might make one of these deals and get a 7th inning guy we see as similar to May in the next few days. They need someone to match with Rogers though. They need a top starter. There aren’t very many of these guys and the sellers are wise to wait and play the buyers against each other.

The Twins would have to make them an offer that they are absolutely certain won’t be beat.

 

One would say the same thing about free agency just less than 2 years ago. I guess the urgency is different, but then....... look what our Twins did as a selling team last year. Not such great return. Not much competition, it seems, or at least I hope not to take what they did. Those who wait most often watch others making the trade. 

 

Why does someone "similar to May" not excite me?

[adorduan]

 

One would say the same thing about free agency just less than 2 years ago. I guess the urgency is different, but then....... look what our Twins did as a selling team last year. Not such great return. Not much competition, it seems, or at least I hope not to take what they did. Those who wait most often watch others making the trade. 

 

Why does someone "similar to May" not excite me?

Exactly.  We better be shooting for more than "similar to May".....

[ChrisKnutson]

 

I am not sure it is lack of urgency.

They need to find a seller and sellers have no reason for urgency. If you have one of the best relievers or starters in the market it is to your advantage to wait. There are more buyers than sellers.

The Twins could overpay significantly and win a deal today. I would think that is a move of desperation rather than urgency.

 

Ian Kennedy could be had today for a very reasonable price, yet I see no action...

Edited July 20, 2019 by ChrisKnutson

[D.C Twins]

We need to modestly overpay in prospects for relief sooner rather than later.

 

The 10ish more games between now and the deadline matter and Rogers is getting cooked alive in usage (not just usage but constant usage in high leverage situations sometimes for multiple innings).

 

We need to try to win those 10 games AND prevent Rogers from breaking down.

 

Suck it up and overpay a bit (it could be even more by the deadline)