Article: Twins Trade Rumor Recap: Teams Pondering Selling

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Yeah IIRC there was reported interest a couple of weeks ago. An overwhelming offer is probably worth it if the FO believes he can be a good 1-2 punch with Berrios over the next 3 seasons.

yeah, but 3 years is worth the offer. I'd have no problem headlining with Graterol and adding a few more pieces to get him. 

[Alex Schieferdecker]

It would be nice to get a reliever of the caliber of Yates, etc. But I hope that if the Twins get a high leverage arm, that player is willing to rethink their role and be used less to rack up saves and more to put out fires. The regimented 7th, 8th, 9th inning approach has always been bizarre to me, and I've been happy to see the Twins free themselves a little bit of that way of thinking, even though Rogers is now the de facto "closer."

 

But basically, whomever the Twins pick up, I hope they don't see themselves as a pitcher with a hard and fast role.

[puckstopper1]

 

Just to be clear, the 95.9% was from June 3rd. Today the division is at 84% which is predicting a 5 out of 6 chance. (please no RR jokes here!).

 

I think 84% is still too high. It would be interesting to see how many division leaders with 4 game leads at this point, do go on to win. Or if they get passed up in the standings, or whatever. I think 5 out of 6 might be a touch high (but not much).

 

Anyway I agree the standings are much more likely to remain neck and neck and I do also think the Twins are capable of pulling away again, even if by virtue of Cleveland faltering again at some point. 

 

 

 

  .... Anyone else? I'm genuinely looking for insight into this probability thing John raised, and how FOs might think about it

 

The probabilities look at the current place in the standings and also upcoming schedule. 

 

After this homestand the Twins play a significant amount of games against KC, DET and CWS. 

 

Toss in a series against the Marlins and you have (on paper as of now) an "easier" schedule ahead. 

 

That contributes to the probabilities.

[In My La Z boy]

 

Would Gardy even know any of our current prospects? That was 5 years ago already. I think only Gibson, May, and Polanco (barely) even played under Gardy in Minnesota:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2014.shtml

 

Unless by "Gardy's boys" you mean we somehow trade them Ft. Myers manager Toby Gardenhire.

Gardy ran the show when we drafted Stewart/Hildy & Gonsalves - and was our chief during each of these 3 guys 1st 2 minor league seasons. These were the 3 pitchers I hoped he would overvalue. We can also throw Toby in if that helps spycake 

[howeda7]

They're routinely using Rodgers for 2 inning saves. There's no way they can justify standing pat. And I know FO's don't listen to the fan base, but there will be a very high level of outage if they do nothing.

[sampleSizeOfOne]

I was wondering how the recent slew of DFAs worked with regards to trades. One loosely assumes they aren't the most valuable of assets, but they have 10 days to trade them or clear waivers or outright them if memory serves?

 

Waivers take 3 days as well?

 

It shows your hand, but if >1 team were interested, it could precipitate a mini-deadline for a deal involving them ahead of the main deadline.

 

Probably not useful, but i do like to make things more complicated than they should be...

[nicksaviking]

I want another starter, but Boyd is about the last of the available guys I want, I think he's a total mirage. Or was a mirage at least, I think the facade is already coming down.

 

Does he still come at a premium price now that he hasn't allowed fewer than 3 ER in any of his last 8 starts and has given up multiple HR in five of those appearances? 

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Gardy ran the show when we drafted Stewart/Hildy & Gonsalves - and was our chief during each of these 3 guys 1st 2 minor league seasons. These were the 3 pitchers I hoped he would overvalue. We can also throw Toby in if that helps spycake 

 

I doubt Gardy had any say in those draft picks. You can only hope his impression of them was favorable when they interacted.

 

I'd add that none of those guys would headline a deal for Boyd. You might see Stewart or Gonsalves as a 3rd/4th type piece, but definitely not the main component.

[In My La Z boy]

 

I doubt Gardy had any say in those draft picks. You can only hope his impression of them was favorable when they interacted.

 

I'd add that none of those guys would headline a deal for Boyd. You might see Stewart or Gonsalves as a 3rd/4th type piece, but definitely not the main component.

I always felt Terry Ryan/Gardy held there own guys (guys they drafted and coached) in higher regard when it came to trades and promotions, and I still see Niko Goodrum playing a significant role over there. Obviously it will take a couple of our top 5 guys to get Boyd/Greene - just hoping a Stewart Gonsalves or Hildy would warm his heart enough to allow us to hang onto guys we like better. As in a Poppen Smeltzer Littell or Eades. Boyd alone is probably worth 2 of our 100mph youngsters AND Stewart. And I would do it in a heartbeat. Berrios/Boyd as our 1-2 for the next 3 years. Look out.

[SwainZag]

 

I want another starter, but Boyd is about the last of the available guys I want, I think he's a total mirage. Or was a mirage at least, I think the facade is already coming down.

 

Does he still come at a premium price now that he hasn't allowed fewer than 3 ER in any of his last 8 starts and has given up multiple HR in five of those appearances? 

 

Boyd intrigues me.  He has given up a lot of HR lately, but he has also missed a ton of bats, and walks so few.  His slider is the real deal.  You cannot be a mirage when you can strike guys out at the rate that he does.  The only starters in the league who have a higher K/9 than he doers are Cole, Sale and Scherzer.  Get this stat.....he has a higher K/9, lower BB/9 and lower HR/9 than Verlander does this season.  He has had a little rougher run, but man.....there is a lot to like with him.

 

Greene would worry me a lot more than Boyd does.  His shiny 1.06 ERA is the mirage.  The BABIP of .179 is unsustainable.

[Vanimal46]

 

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