Adalberto Mejia DFAd

[Squirrel]

We now have two spots on our 40-man open. I’m hoping that they are filled with much better than we’ve let go. And the logic in my brain says why open up those spots if not for better.

[Utah Twins Fan]

We now have two spots on our 40-man open. I’m hoping that they are filled with much better than we’ve let go. And the logic in my brain says why open up those spots if not for better.

 

 

I really hope Twins act soon before they find themselves in a “Arms” race with Boston and NY and I don’t think the FO / owners will win the race. I may be wrong, but either way Rogers can’t keep pitching 2 innings a night for remainder of season and have anything left in tank for playoffs if they make it!

[old nurse]

 

If teams can find room for the likes of Milone, Zach Duke, and Gilmartin, it's hard to imagine Mejia going unclaimed.

Gilmartin was designated for assignment in June, Duke was released in July While teams found room, the teams also moved on.

[old nurse]

 

If I were the Orioles I would grab him and put him in Cashner's spot.  In fact we should have traded him for Cashner, but I hear the interview on the radio where we were told the All Star break is a good time for the front office to take time off.  Well no one told Boston.

Time to trade Cashner is when he is having a good half season. Some people still believe he has potential, others do not. Those that do not are very happy that the GM took a break

[Mike Sixel]

About five trades a year happen in the first three weeks of July. I hope to have a blog post, part two of a series, up really next week looking at those.

 

As for Mejia,I thought he had a shot at the rotation, before the year started. No doubt he's on a roster this year, and next.

[jkcarew]

Unfortunate timing if nothing else. Mejia’s been decent before and likely will be again at some point. But he’s really bad at the precise moment where the club is desperate for a lefty in the pen...yet can’t wait for someone without options to figure things out.

 

You have to believe one of the moves is going to be for a left-handed bullpen arm.

[yarnivek1972]

Unfortunate timing if nothing else. Mejia’s been decent before and likely will be again at some point. But he’s really bad at the precise moment where the club is desperate for a lefty in the pen...yet can’t wait for someone without options to figure things out.

 

You have to believe one of the moves is going to be for a left-handed bullpen arm.

Ryan O’Rourke is languishing in AAA for the New York Mess, err Mets. If you are looking for a loogy type, he’s as good as anyone IMO. If you want someone who can get out RHB as well, not so much.

[AceWrigley]

When a player is Designated for Assignment, the "Designated Player" is removed from his club's MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) and MLB Active List (25-man roster), and then the club has up to seven days (formerly ten days) to either trade, release, or non-tender the player, or option or outright the player to the minors.

[Riverbrian]

The Choice was Mejia or Morin or sending down a pitcher with options who was also performing better than Mejia or Morin.at the major league level.

 

They chose Mejia who was 2 years younger and more left-handed than Morin is.

 

I'm going to assume, they have information pertinent to the decision and be OK. I assume it doesn't matter because new blood is coming in shortly and Morin will be next to clear 25 man room. 

 

 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

The Choice was Mejia or Morin or sending down a pitcher with options who was also performing better than Mejia or Morin.at the major league level.

 

They chose Mejia who was 2 years younger and more left-handed than Morin is.

 

I'm going to assume, they have information pertinent to the decision and be OK. I assume it doesn't matter because new blood is coming in shortly and Morin will be next to clear 25 man room. 

I think it boiled down to "who do you want pitching for you in the meantime?" and I can't really fault them for choosing Morin for 2-3 weeks over Mejia.

 

Ultimately, I doubt it matters either way.

[Riverbrian]

 

I think it boiled down to "who do you want pitching for you in the meantime?" and I can't really fault them for choosing Morin for 2-3 weeks over Mejia.

 

Ultimately, I doubt it matters either way.

 

Agreed

 

I'm really having a hard time finding anything to get myself concerned about this year. 

[Vanimal46]

Agreed

 

I'm really having a hard time finding anything to get myself concerned about this year.

Same. My only mild concern is raising the floor of the bullpen/rotation for the playoffs. The fact they're not waiting around for players to figure it out at the MLB level, and cutting their losses early with players out of options is a really positive sign IMO.

[Riverbrian]

 

Same. My only mild concern is raising the floor of the bullpen/rotation for the playoffs. The fact they're not waiting around for players to figure it out at the MLB level, and cutting their losses early with players out of options is a really positive sign IMO.

 

Agreed

 

As of July 14th... I have no concern at all. 

 

However, I do have the same preemptive concerns about mound depth after the trade deadline in August and September that need to be addressed. 

 

Things are fine right now but if we suffer a key loss or two on the mound in August or September that leaves us short for the playoffs...  we need an answer for that possibility.  

 

However I'm reasonably confident that the front office also feels the same way and will do something about it so I feel reasonably calm and eager to see what they do about it. 

[Vanimal46]

Should be an update on this today, no?

[Shaitan]

I'm curious. I thought he looked really good in limited action last year.

[ashbury]

I'm curious. I thought he looked really good in limited action last year.

They didn't DFA him, last year.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Mejia DFA'd again by the Angels today:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/angels-recall-nick-tropeano-designate-adalberto-mejia.html

[ashbury]

Mejia DFA'd again by the Angels today:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/angels-recall-nick-tropeano-designate-adalberto-mejia.html

I'll say what I say every time some team claims one of our guys - the rules should be changed to be more like Rule-5, where the new team needs (say for the rest of the season) to offer the player back to the original team first, who can then resume the waiver/DFA process as though the gratuitous claim had never happened. Angels want to stash Mejia at AAA? Hey, so did we. Way too much game-playing going on with these claims.

[Mike Sixel]

Why isn't a terrible team claiming him, and giving him a shot. Look at some of these pitching staffs.... Or, for your sake, don't.....

[yarnivek1972]

Why would the Angels have done that? He’s pitched well for them in SSS.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I'll say what I say every time some team claims one of our guys - the rules should be changed to be more like Rule-5, where the new team needs (say for the rest of the season) to offer the player back to the original team first, who can then resume the waiver/DFA process as though the gratuitous claim had never happened. Angels want to stash Mejia at AAA? Hey, so did we. Way too much game-playing going on with these claims.

I don't think it needs to be a season but 30, 60, whatever days is more fair to both the original team and the player himself.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I'll say what I say every time some team claims one of our guys - the rules should be changed to be more like Rule-5, where the new team needs (say for the rest of the season) to offer the player back to the original team first, who can then resume the waiver/DFA process as though the gratuitous claim had never happened. Angels want to stash Mejia at AAA? Hey, so did we. Way too much game-playing going on with these claims.

And I'll respond with what I say every time you say this.

 

Your proposal would be worse for the players. By removing the possibility of later sneaking him through waivers, it would have made it more likely for Mejia to go unclaimed in his first DFA go-around and he could have missed out on the last few weeks of MLB paychecks, health insurance, service time, pension earning, etc. Not to mention extra MLB opportunities to audition for other clubs (maybe Mejia gets claimed now after a few solid innings for the Angels).

 

Your rule modification would be better for teams. But the current system is already pretty darn good for teams in regards to pre-arb players, so I'd rather side with the players here.

 

Now, if you want to dream about blowing the whole system up, and making it more equitable all around, I could get behind that.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I'll add that definitionally, the current system already has relative fairnesz among teams in this regard. Yes, the Twins might lose a guy like this -- but the Twins have every right and opportunity to claim a guy like this too.

 

But there is no such fairness for a player in this situation. If Mejia gets outrighted to Rochester, he can't do anything to even things out.

 

So another reason I side with players here.

[ashbury]

more likely for Mejia to go unclaimed in his first DFA go-around and he could have missed out on the last few weeks of MLB paychecks, health insurance, service time, pension earning, etc.

And Mejia's short-term gain is some other player's short-term loss. The Angels weren't going to run with a 24-man roster. I don't see the net benefit to "the players".

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

And I'll respond with what I say every time you say this.

Your proposal would be worse for the players. By removing the possibility of later sneaking him through waivers, it would have made it more likely for Mejia to go unclaimed in his first DFA go-around and he could have missed out on the last few weeks of MLB paychecks, health insurance, service time, pension earning, etc. Not to mention extra MLB opportunities to audition for other clubs (maybe Mejia gets claimed now after a few solid innings for the Angels).

Your rule modification would be better for teams. But the current system is already pretty darn good for teams in regards to pre-arb players, so I'd rather side with the players here.

Now, if you want to dream about blowing the whole system up, and making it more equitable all around, I could get behind that.

That's interesting, though I'm unsure how it plays out in reality. The DFA bounce might help the player, but a strict DFA rule might help, say, half the players stick on an MLB roster and get them picked up by teams actually interested in their service ability at the MLB level instead of a "grab and stash" system.

 

But if we're blowing things up, a DFA should either make a player a free agent or add one year to service time if you're conservative. That's the actual fair solution.

[ashbury]

And I'll respond with what I say every time you say this.

 

But all that said, yeah, this dance has a very familiar feel to it, so I probably will sit the next number out.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

And, what wasn’t mentioned in the link spycake provided, was that Mejia pitched three scoreless innings in extra innings the previous night. The next night he was DFA’d. Similar to what the Twins did with Smeltzer.

 

This to me is a really sad practice, because it seems to be becoming so much more common, hopefully players will come up with something to protect themselves from it. (full MLB paycheck for the whole season once called up, I don’t know..)

[Shaitan]

 

This to me is a really sad practice, because it seems to be becoming so much more common, hopefully players will come up with something to protect themselves from it. (full MLB paycheck for the whole season once called up, I don’t know..)

Do they collect MLB pay during the waiver wire period? That's not chump money. It's still not a great situation for them, but the MLB pay would offset the idea of playing in AAA for a team that didn't want you, which I imagine would be pyscologically defeating.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Do they collect MLB pay during the waiver wire period? That's not chump money. It's still not a great situation for them, but the MLB pay would offset the idea of playing in AAA for a team that didn't want you, which I imagine would be pyscologically defeating.

It’s your last two words that resonate with me. How would you like to be told you are moving, every couple of months? I know it’s part of the deal right now. Minor league promotions are one thing; feeling like your career might be over is a little different, I would think. But maybe the players see it different.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Do they collect MLB pay during the waiver wire period? That's not chump money. It's still not a great situation for them, but the MLB pay would offset the idea of playing in AAA for a team that didn't want you, which I imagine would be pyscologically defeating.

Damn, that's a really interesting question. I believe they'd *have* to receive MLB pay because it's not as if you're going to give an eight year vet MiLB pay for a few days, nor is that player going to go without pay.

 

The more I think about it, that player is still under control of the waiving team until he is taken by another team. I have to believe that he receives standard pay until something changes (ie. another team acquires him and demotes him).