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Even though I'm not a Minnesotan, nor do I live in this beautiful state, I've been observing you guys for years. I see a lot of pessimism when it comes to sports. And who can blame you? Few fans in America love their teams as much as you do and, at the same time, have endured such traumatic playoff moments with the Vikings and Wild or such long playoff droughts with the Twins and Timberwolves. You have the right to be (in the words of Twins Daily's own Parker Hageman) dead inside when it comes to sports. Well, maybe it's time to believe again.I don't live in the US and I haven't set foot there since May 2013. I'm from a country where most people literally have no clue of what baseball is. I met the game of baseball in 2008, at age 16. So, it's nearly impossible for me to have access to any publication (or clothing items, memorabilia, sports gear ...) about the sport. But, miraculously, one of my students gave me a very special gift some weeks ago.

 

Having taken an exchange program to the USA in 2015, he was hosted by a Kansas City family during his time there. He knows nothing about baseball himself, but his family did and they gave him a Sports Illustrated 2015 World Series commemorative issue. Almost four years later, he decided to give that as a present to his all-time favorite teacher. I was thrilled. I almost didn't even care about the fact that the Royals are a Twins division rival. After all, it was the first baseball publication I ever laid hands on.

 

The magazine sat on my desk at home for some days. In the meantime, the Twins flourished as the team with the best record in baseball. I would be lying if I said I saw that coming, but I can't say I'm shocked by that either. But a lot of people are, indeed, shocked.

 

I lost count of how many people on social media are doubting the Twins. “Enjoy 'em while you can, 'cause they won't last,” and that's not even from people outside of Minnesota only. Like I explained on the first paragraph, many Minnesotans don't believe their Twins are for real. That made me a little mad. And then, the magazine spoke to me.

 

In the midst of so much pessimism and disbelief coming from every which way, I started browsing through that $12.99 SI issue from November of 2015 and I thought to myself: Why can't the Twins be this year's version of the 2015 Royals? And believe me or not, I found a lot of similarities between the two teams. I'm not saying here that Minnesota will win the World Series. All I'm saying is that it's OK to believe in it – like I do right now.

 

Even though we've had our hearts broken by the Brett Favre interception, the Gary Anderson and Blair Walsh missed field goals, the Jimmy Butler fiasco, the Joe Nathan blown save in the '09 ALDS and, well, the whole Wild playoff history, you might not be a fool to let your guard down for this Twins team. If you don't believe me, let us go through some of the things these two great ball clubs have in common.

 

A Couple of Underdogs

When experts started predicting what would happen that season, almost none of them believed the 2015 Royals would even make the playoffs. Which, in retrospect, is kind of odd, considering they had just been to the World Series less than six months earlier. In his opening piece, Jay Jaffe wrote about how the Royals were picked by specialists to make it to the postseason in only 13 of 149 predictions.

 

Maybe this year’s Twins are not as much discredited as the Royals were then. Per that year’s PECOTA, Kansas City was expected to have a 72-90 record. Instead, they went 95-67. This year’s PECOTA, at first, predicted an 81-81 record for the Twins, but a number of specialists considered them when predicting which team would win the AL Central.

 

A month and a half into the season, with over 25% of games played, Minnesota has the second best record in baseball, after holding the best one overall for over a week. The Twins are on pace to win almost 105 games. I don’t actually believe they will reach triple digits in wins, but at this point it’s plausible to believe that they will surpass the 90-win mark. Curiously enough, after 43 games, the 2015 Royals and the current Twins owned an identical record of 28-15.

 

Another aspect that those teams have in common is the small Opening Day payroll. On that same Jaffe opening piece, he wrote that the Royals were the first team since the 2003 Marlins to win a World Series, even though they were at the bottom half of all MLB payrolls (17th, at $112.9 million). Per Spotrac, the Twins had the 18th payroll in the league on Opening Day, at $122.1 million, almost $12 million below league average.

 

Even their track record leading up to their World Series success is somewhat similar to the Twins. Between 2004 and 2012, Kansas City had nine losing records, never winning more than 75 games and with an average of 66 wins per season in that span. Then, they won 86 and 89 games in the two seasons before their championship year. In the six seasons that followed their last division title, the Twins won an average of 67 games each season, including a 59-103 record in 2016, the worst one in club history. They went on to win 85 and make the playoffs for the first time in seven years in 2017 and came close to an eighty-win season again last year, finishing with 78.

 

I don’t believe in coincidences nor am I saying that all of these will have any effect on the outcome of this season. They won’t. But it’s fun to look at those facts, especially when basically no one believes smaller market teams can actually win a title. Let’s not buy into the notion that a team can only win a ring with a $200 million payroll.

 

A Steamroller Offense

In that same issue, Tom Verducci wrote a piece entitled Postmodern Swing in which broke down the main strengths of that Royal offense. According to him, one of the most important features of that offense was its aggressiveness. The Royals saw the fewest pitches per plate appearance that year, with 3.71. Their philosophy was to chase after hittable pitches early and not give up easy strikes. Still, they were the team that struck out the least in MLB that year, with a 15.9% strikeout rate. They also averaged 4.4 runs per game, which ranked seventh in baseball. Which team has done something similar this year?

 

Some weeks ago, Aaron Gleeman wrote this great piece explaining how the Twins have added power and, at the same time, have been striking out much less. They have been the team that strikes out the third least in MLB, currently with a 19.5% strikeout rate. In comparison with the ‘15 Royals, Minnesota is also scoring more, with a 5.4 runs per game average, and has much more power, as they lead the MLB with .236 ISO, against .144 of those Royals.In terms of pitches per plate appearance, Minnesota also doesn’t see a lot of pitches, with an average of 3.78.

 

Both these Twins and those Royals have something else in common. They both swing a lot and get good contact. Here is how they rank:

 

2015 Royals

Contact% - 81.9% (1st in MLB)

O-Contact% - 68.8% (2nd)

Swing% - 47.6% (9th)

O-Swing% - 32.5% (5th)

 

2019 Twins

Contact% - 77.5% (6th in MLB)

O-Contact% - 63.2% (7th)

Swing% - 48.1% (4th)

O-Swing% - 32.3% (6th)

 

And one last nice coincidence that these two offenses have. In 2015, the Royals had Alcides Escobar as their leadoff man, even though he had a low OBP, contradicting modern tendencies. Escobar finished the season with a .293 OBP. He also saw very few pitches, with an average of 3.49 per plate appearance and swung at 51.3% of pitches and managed to make contact in 83.8% of them.

 

Looking at Minnesota’s current leadoff man, Max Kepler, we also have an aggressive hitter (51.5 % Swing% and 82.2% Contact%), who sees few pitches (3.56 per PA) and has a not so high base occupation rate (.308). According to Verducci’s piece, Escobar ‘set the tone’ for the rest of the Royal lineup, making opposing pitchers aware of the fact that they wouldn’t get any easy strikes.

 

Quality Pitching

When we talk about the Royals pitching from that World Series campaign, the first thing that comes to our minds is their extraordinary bullpen. One might think that here would lie the biggest difference between the two teams. Yes, that Wade Davis-led group of relievers was no match for this current Minnesota ‘pen, but when comparing the two pitching staffs overall, we can find more identical features.

 

Believe it or not, but the two pitching staffs have virtually the same numbers, with an inversion. Kansas City had a lights-out bullpen and a below average rotation, resulting in the 10th-best ERA in the MLB. The Twins on the other hand, don’t have a stellar rotation nor bullpen, but both those groups are among the 10 best in baseball.

 

2015 Royals

Overall: 3.74 ERA (10th), 4.04 FIP (15th)

Starters: 4.34 ERA (22nd), 4.32 FIP (21st)

Relievers: 2.72 ERA (2nd), 3.56 FIP (10th)

 

2019 Twins

Overall: 3.88 ERA (9th), 4.13 FIP (13th)

Starters: 3.66 ERA (6th), 4.23 FIP (13th)

Relievers: 4.31 ERA (19th), 3.96 FIP (9th)

 

Davis was out of this world that season. There has never been a reliever more deserving than him of winning the first Cy Young award in the AL since 1992. I really believe he was the best candidate. Not only did he finish the regular season with a 0.94 ERA in 61 1/3 innings pitched, but he also neared perfection during the postseason, posting a 0.00 ERA in eight games.

 

I don’t see anyone within this Twins pitching staff (so far) with the ability to be what Davis was for that Royals team, but there’s no need for it. Up until now, Minnesota’s pitchers have done a decent job. The overall bullpen numbers are a bit tainted because of bad outings from young arms tested out of Rochester and because of slumps from Trevor Hildenberger and Adalberto Mejía. But, as of this moment, six of the eight bullpen arms in the 25-man roster have an ERA of 2.76 or lower. Newcomer Austin Adams hasn’t yet pitched this season.

 

Their rotations can’t be compared. Twins starters have done an outstanding job. Maybe we’ve set the bar too low after years of bad rotations, but things have looked extremely nice. Which, with this whole exercise of comparing these two teams, can be very exciting. The Royals were world champions even though the four starters they used in the postseason combined for a 4.96 ERA in 16 starts.

 

Deadline Additions: A Blueprint for the Twins

To help end the 30-year World Series drought, the Royals traded for two key pieces near the trade deadline. They traded Brandon Finnegan, John Lamb and Cody Reed for Reds’ superstar starter Johnny Cueto and sent Aaron Brooks and Sean Manaea to Oakland in exchange for veteran super-utility player Ben Zobrist. Those proved to be vital additions for achieving their goals.

 

Zobrist had a solid last portion of the regular season with the Royals, slashing .284/.364/.453 (.816). During the postseason, he performed even better, hitting .303/.365/.515 (.880) and with five multi-hit games. But he also provided a much needed boost that might have made a big difference.

 

Before his arrival, Royals second basemen slashed .231/.251/.319 (.570). In 35 games starting at that position in the remainder of the regular season, Zobrist hit .275/.348/.457 (.805). He also played 18 games as a LF, a position in which Kansas City had good production, with .273/.383/.467 (.850). But Zobrist managed to top even that, hitting .299/.392/.463 (.855).

 

Cueto, on the other hand, wasn’t as dominant as Zobrist, but he was still essential to the Kansas City success. He had a 4.76 ERA in 13 starts for the Royals during the regular season and a 5.40 ERA in the postseason, but those numbers alone can be very misleading. In four playoff starts, he had a mediocre outing in Game 2 of the ALDS (6.0 innings, 4 ER), a terrible showing in Game 3 of the ALCS (2.0 IP, 8 ER), but two amazingly good starts to compensate. He pitched a complete game in the World Series, giving up just one run, to help the Royals to open a 2-0 lead in the series.

 

So what’s the lesson the Twins can learn from the Royals shopping at the 2015 trade deadline? It’s hard to imagine at this time that Minnesota is going after big names to help their offense. I mean, all help is welcomed, but if they had to invest top prospects in one area, I don’t believe the offense would be their priority.

 

When we look at the pitching staff, you see a lot of room for improvement. As good as the rotation has pitched so far, the Twins would benefit from a better arm. The bullpen also could use some help, much more so than the rotation. Shopping for one or two dominant arms could make a difference between a World Series victory and a quick visit to the postseason.

 

Earlier this month, Ted Schwerzler identified six pitchers to keep on the radar as potential trade deadline targets here at Twins Daily. There will be much more coverage, speculation and analysis on the trade market here at the site as the trade deadline approaches.

 

In conclusion, smaller market teams will always raise more suspicions than inspire confidence among non-fans. These teams will always be doubted. But the 2015 Royals give Twins fans reason to dream. And, as shown during this article, they have a long list of common features with this year’s Twins. So, it’s OK to believe.

 

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Interesting comparison.

 

I think there is definitely a chance to pull something like this off. They’ll definitely need to address the pitching side via trade, but I think they’re in the conversation for best offense in the MLB when healthy (with Yankees and Astros).

 

At the end of the day, the Astros are really, really good. Clearly, they’re the favorite. There wasn’t a team quite as dominant that the Royals had to go through that year.

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2018 was supposed to be the first year where this wave of core players (Sano, Buxton, Rosario, Kepler, Berrios, Polanco) were supposed to compete for a championship. Instead, Santana missed the season, Sano and Buxton were mostly gone, Kepler had a down year, Polanco was suspended half the season, etc. 

 

This extreme bounce-back should not really surprise anybody. Management added three very good veterans in the field, Schoop, Gonzo and Cron. They also added three valuable pitchers, Perez, Pineda, and Ryne Harper. In addition, Garver has continued to improve both at and behind the plate, and El Cherubo has shocked the world by being a legit utility player, and a surprisingly good backup catcher. 

 

But the thing that should surprise nobody is that the core of this team is now healthy, and they are entering the prime of their careers. They should be competing for championships for the next five years, before they all get old, hurt, or traded. Better still, a new influx of talented players will be arriving over the next few years. Graterol, Kiriloff, Lewis and others should help maintain the talented core, possibly for several more years. 

 

Meanwhile, for 2019 I fully expect Twins management to keep tabs on possible late season adds, especially if the team looks poised for a post season run. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see Marcus Stromen on the team sometime late. We have arrived at the window. I see fun times ahead. 

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Really enjoyable article. Thanks for this perspective. I'll travel to Minneapolis from North Carolina for the World Series. I'll need a list of local-favorite restaurants and the name of a hotel across the street from the ballpark. Also I want he address of Twins Daily World Headquarters so I can visit all you writers. I'm getting excited. (I'm not kidding.)

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"I see a lot of pessimism when it comes to sports. And who can blame you?"

 

I was talking with my dad (who is a native Minnesotan and a life long Minnesota sports fan) recently about the Twins hot start and how they are one of the top teams in the whole league. His response was "we have to wait, it's still early, we'll probably screw it up somehow!" Boy has a lifetime of Minnesota sports conditioned him well

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I have to admit that this team is far exceding expectations but there is a real question of how long it can  last.   They have 3 players with OPS above 1.0.  Mitch Garver and Jorge Polanco are on 30+ home run pace.   I would have taken 9 and 8 home runs on the entire season from them.

 

What is great is that most of this production is from players that have been with us and developed in our system.

 

Plus, I think it mattered that they finally brought in a manager that can relate to  young playes.

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I have to admit that this team is far exceding expectations but there is a real question of how long it can  last.   They have 3 players with OPS above 1.0.  Mitch Garver and Jorge Polanco are on 30+ home run pace.   I would have taken 9 and 8 home runs on the entire season from them.

 

What is great is that most of this production is from players that have been with us and developed in our system.

 

Plus, I think it mattered that they finally brought in a manager that can relate to  young playes.

I'm cooperating with you here but I'm not sure I buy your homer projections for these two young players. They each hit nearly your numbers in a half season of at bats. Now Garver can't be expected to get a full season of at bats but Polanco should. They also could be expected to develop more power as they grow.

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Despite the early similarity in some obscure statistics, the 2019 Twins are almost the complete opposite of the 2015 Royals. Maybe similar in that both clubs play good defense, but that’s it. If the Twins were to pull that off...(and it seems less and less obsurd to consider)...it would be by overwhelming teams offensively. Not by winning low-scoring games with a dominant bullpen.

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"I see a lot of pessimism when it comes to sports. And who can blame you?"

I was talking with my dad (who is a native Minnesotan and a life long Minnesota sports fan) recently about the Twins hot start and how they are one of the top teams in the whole league. His response was "we have to wait, it's still early, we'll probably screw it up somehow!" Boy has a lifetime of Minnesota sports conditioned him well

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You know, I am starting to ask myself if we can really believe in this team. Really believe they are legitimate World Series contenders and will add a title or two over the next five years. I was 15 in 1987 and 19 in 1991 when the Twins won their World Series titles. Life seemed so simple and I remember thinking the Twins will probably win a title at least every five years or so. Was I wrong. 28 years of nothing. Don't get me started on the Vikings. Here's hoping this club builds some fond memories for the fans. It's cliche, however, the fans in this town deserve a championship.
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Love the article and I enjoy the enthusiasm, but as a really old guy on these posts I am closer to the dad who says we have to wait.  I am thoroughly enjoying the team, but until the All Star game I am not thinking WS, nor am I convinced that the Astros, Yankees, and Red Sox are liable to fall to our juggernaut.  In fact, if I let myself into that post season thought pattern the team that scares me is the Yankees.  They are playing with their AAA lineup and staff.  They are dominating the league and waiting for their regular lineup to come back.  

 

It is fun to watch the story lines develop and to have a team that deserves attention.

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I'm old enough to be a fan of both the Twins and Vikings since their inceptions. Of course I'm pessimistic. I remember watching game 7 of the 1987 World Series (alone because it was going to be depressing when they lost). When Willie McGee grounded out to end the game, I waited for the umpire to signal that he had called time out prior o the pitch. I knew something bad was about to happen. I felt the same when Jack Morris finished the top of the 10th inning in 1991. I was confident that Twins would go down quietly and the bullpen would fall apart. When Larkin singled to drive in Gladden, I once again waited for something negative to happen. (And, once again, I was watching alone.) Negativity is a Minnesota sports fan's way of life

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I'm old enough to be a fan of both the Twins and Vikings since their inceptions. Of course I'm pessimistic. I remember watching game 7 of the 1987 World Series (alone because it was going to be depressing when they lost). When Willie McGee grounded out to end the game, I waited for the umpire to signal that he had called time out prior o the pitch. I knew something bad was about to happen. I felt the same when Jack Morris finished the top of the 10th inning in 1991. I was confident that Twins would go down quietly and the bullpen would fall apart. When Larkin singled to drive in Gladden, I once again waited for something negative to happen. (And, once again, I was watching alone.) Negativity is a Minnesota sports fan's way of life

I too have been been a fan of our teams my whole life. I graduated from Mpls.South in '82 and left for Texas and College that same summer. I wasn't here when the Wild, or the Timberwolves were born. To me The North Stars were The Minnesota Hockey Team.

I am sure all of us that remember were surprised and even Shocked by the '87 Twins, but the '91 team, that was different...there was something special about them from Day 1. Slowly and surely I am beginning to get that same feeling this year. I never felt it from '02-'10. I admit I am always sure the Vikes are gonna blow it, but this Twins team...WOW!. I agree we need pitching help but the way they are going about the business of being winners is impressive as H€ll, and a joy to watch. I also feel that Baldelli is doing an awesome job.

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Really enjoyable article. Thanks for this perspective. I'll travel to Minneapolis from North Carolina for the World Series. I'll need a list of local-favorite restaurants and the name of a hotel across the street from the ballpark. Also I want he address of Twins Daily World Headquarters so I can visit all you writers. I'm getting excited. (I'm not kidding.)

Thank you for the words!!

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Good article. They could be the 2015 Kansas City Royals if they make win now moves at the trade deadline. I think the Twins need to act like the Royals and go all in one year when they believe they have a world series contending roster.

Thank you, Vanimal!

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Love the article and I enjoy the enthusiasm, but as a really old guy on these posts I am closer to the dad who says we have to wait.  I am thoroughly enjoying the team, but until the All Star game I am not thinking WS, nor am I convinced that the Astros, Yankees, and Red Sox are liable to fall to our juggernaut.  In fact, if I let myself into that post season thought pattern the team that scares me is the Yankees.  They are playing with their AAA lineup and staff.  They are dominating the league and waiting for their regular lineup to come back.  

 

It is fun to watch the story lines develop and to have a team that deserves attention.

Thank you, Mike!

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Channing, Channing, Channing. If you truly feel that this team is something special, then you aren't a Minnesota fan at heart.

I guess it depends on what special means to you. if you had told me before Spring Training that they'd be playing .667 ball at the 1/4 mark I'd have prolly laughed at you. But I did know they'd be better. I wanted them to sign Gonzalez and they DID. He hasn't even started to hit yet like he's going to. Pineda hasn't really been great, but I knew Perez had a live arm and that was a steal. What has been most impressive is the success of the coaching philosophies and the staffs way of implementing them. This team isn't going away unless they get a rash of pitching injuries. And that might not even stop them if they keep hitting this way. This is not a small sample size anymore, and they keep improving. Doubt em if you want, but I'm not gonna.

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The 2015 Royals had a very good bullpen and mediocre everything else. If anything, this year's Twins team is the opposite of that.

 

And don't forget -- the Royals were good for three years. The 2015 team did not come out of nowhere. Wade Davis was unhittable, and was used a lot, in both years the Royals made it to the WS.

 

The Royals may have started the "power bullpen" era which other teams have since rode to success, but I think this era is ending.

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I guess it depends on what special means to you. if you had told me before Spring Training that they'd be playing .667 ball at the 1/4 mark I'd have prolly laughed at you. But I did know they'd be better. I wanted them to sign Gonzalez and they DID. He hasn't even started to hit yet like he's going to. Pineda hasn't really been great, but I knew Perez had a live arm and that was a steal. What has been most impressive is the success of the coaching philosophies and the staffs way of implementing them. This team isn't going away unless they get a rash of pitching injuries. And that might not even stop them if they keep hitting this way. This is not a small sample size anymore, and they keep improving. Doubt em if you want, but I'm not gonna.

There were supposed to be smiley faces after my comment but they didn't show up. My comment was intended as satirical. I actually agree that the team can be special but the Minnesotan in me expects the worse. Go Vikings!!

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The 2015 Royals had a very good bullpen and mediocre everything else. If anything, this year's Twins team is the opposite of that.

 

I kinda disagree here. They had some good hitters and power hitters too. Their starting rotation was not exceptional but certainly wasn't mediocre in my opinion.

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I kinda disagree here. They had some good hitters and power hitters too. Their starting rotation was not exceptional but certainly wasn't mediocre in my opinion.

 

Team OPS+ 98

Starter OPS+ against 107

Reliever OPS+ against 80

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There were supposed to be smiley faces after my comment but they didn't show up. My comment was intended as satirical. I actually agree that the team can be special but the Minnesotan in me expects the worse. Go Vikings!!

I'm all in on the satire bro....lol....it's tasting so much better when we ride a .680 winning % into the 1/3 mark of the season. Is it wrong for me to forget about the rest of the AL Central and instead ask everyone to now look at being the best in the AL. Who is better? At this point Nobody! Before anyone jumps to say Astros keep in mind we won the season series 4-3. (And tanked game 3 @ Houston with a stupid roster move). This is a very, Very good Twins team.
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