Article: DET 5, MIN 3: Tigers Out-Tater Twins, Gardy Gets Tossed

[USAFChief]

This rookie has an ERA of 2.42 this year. I guess he is not an ordinary rookie. I am pinning the loss on the fact that Hildenberg gave up 2 ERs in only one inning. Unfortunately it is the most important inning in the game. Tell me which is worse scoring 2 runs in 5.2 innings against a pretty good rookie or giving up 2 runs in just one inning against a bad lineup. Again no excuse for Hildenberg or the manager who put him in the game.

the blame falls on the front office who built a pen that includes Hildenberger as a featured piece.

[mikelink45]

 

Sorry, wasn't clear there, my bad. If you demote him from high leverage situations, who moves into them?

The solution is not obvious, but at this point it might be Harper or Magill.  Unless there is a minor league option we cannot drop Hildenberger, we are already short of relievers.  However, we cannot make the mistake of relying on him like we did the end of last year.  He seems to have a limit to effective innings and is better used less often. 

[DocBauer]

You lose some from time to time. Hildy has been pretty damn good all year.

 

That said, I'm not sure I like Baldelli's decision to bring him in, that should be May there. Or Parker. Or whomever your best reliever is.

Agreed. Hildenberger has been very good. Now he's had a couple bad games in a row. Such is the nature of life as a RP. Now, if the trend continues and doesnt reverse itself soon, it's time to worry.

 

That being said, I still dont understand May for a handful of pitches. No reason he couldn't have and shouldn't have started a clean 9th.

 

Very hard to win a game only scoring 3 runs and leaving how many guys in scoring position?

 

Lost in all of this is Pineda's best start. 3 runs in 6 IP is 3 runs in 6 IP no matter how you look at it. When his performance is something to complain about, you really dont have anything to complain about.

[jz7233]

I would prefer Duffey over Hildenberg right now.

[h2oface]

Hildenberger's stat line since the all-star break last year do not lie.

 

Edited May 12, 2019 by h2oface

[TheLeviathan]

 

Since when a 5.68 ERA and a 1.74 WHIP is "pretty damn good"?   Maybe for the other teams...

 

 

Is this argument for real?  Dude made 13 appearances in March/April with a 1.93 ERA.  Yeah, I'm going to look past a couple rough patches and say that, by and large, he's been pretty good for us.  Especially given how high leverage the situations were he was being used in.

 

He's struggling hard right now, but that's also a problem we've seen from him.  He seems to be a bit streaky.  Hence why he shouldn't be considered one of our top relievers.

[h2oface]

 

Since when a 5.68 ERA and a 1.74 WHIP is "pretty damn good"?   Maybe for the other teams...

 

And for the last part of 2018, after the all-star game.....
 

9.00 ERA, 1.81 WHIP, .325 average against.

He was really only "real good" in May, and pretty good in June.

 

I want him to be good, too. And I remember the game this year he came in with the bases sacked and mowed 'em down. But facts are facts.

[TheLeviathan]

 

 

I want him to be good, too. And I remember the game this year he came in with the bases sacked and mowed 'em down. But facts are facts.

 

How were his 13 appearances in April?

[h2oface]

 

How were his 13 appearances in April?

 One month a year does not make for a reliable option. And the 5 inherited runners scored that created 3 losses ( I think 3, without looking it up, at least 2....) count too in April, even though it was passed on to his teammate's stats. I want him to be good, too. But when he is sucking..... just throwing him out there again the next day does not mean he will change overnight.

Edited May 12, 2019 by h2oface

[TheLeviathan]

 

 One month a year does not make for a reliable option. And the 5 inherited runners scored that created 3 losses ( I think 3, without looking it up, at least 2....) count too in April, even though it was passed on to his teammate's stats. I want him to be good, too. But when he is sucking..... just throwing him out there again the next day does not mean he will change overnight.

 

I have no issue with most of this.  However, MOST of this season he has been reliable for this team.  Hell, I don't think it's hyperbole to say he came in and bailed us out of several losses in April.  He was getting thrown into a ridiculous number of high leverage situations too.  (He leads all of baseball in having had 19 inherited runners)

 

Edit: He only really cost us the Toronto game.  3 of the 5 inherited runners scored in NY when we were already down 6-1.  We rallied a bit to make it look closer.

 

He's been brutal in May so far and you're right - when he's brutal - stop putting him into anything resembling a high leverage situation.  He's streaky, so ride him when he's hot and bury him when he's not.  What I take issue with is the idea he wasn't good in April.  He absolutely was.  

Edited May 12, 2019 by TheLeviathan

[jz7233]

Hildenberg is really the difference in these two games against the Tigers. 2 innings 4 runs. I am certain the Tigers figured him out. Hildenberg needs to get more innings in AAA.

[jz7233]

If Romero has more command of his pitches, he is certainly a better pitcher than Hildenberg. Duffey is a better option than Hildenberg right now.