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One more time. Say it with me: Thibs is trying to get fired.

Good trade though, all in all, IMO.

What I think we ultimately learned from all of this is that 1) Jimmy’s a total jerk, which I like but whatever, and 2) KAT is soft AF. If the Jimmy thing was truly wearing on him in games, man...suck it up and take it out on the floor. Earn it. Better grab hold of your emotions, because winning at a meaningful level is going to require you to block out the haters and aggressors and start stepping on some throats to pull out a win. I don’t want to see any more (for lack of a better term, I apologize) b****face out of that guy. You have your team now. It’s yours to lead. You can win, or you can not.

I think there is more to it (KAT sucking) than suck it up and play. KAT is shooting 48% - 42% - 91%. The problem is that the offense had offensive black holes everywhere and not running anything to use KAT. 

 

Talent wise the Wolves lose this trade big time but overall they got 2 pieces that fit really well in a 3 and D big wing that can handle the slew of great wings in the league and a 3 pt shooting big.

Best part of the deal is that Covington and Saric shoot 10+ 3's/game combined.

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I think there is more to it (KAT sucking) than suck it up and play. KAT is shooting 48% - 42% - 91%. The problem is that the offense had offensive black holes everywhere and not running anything to use KAT.

 

Talent wise the Wolves lose this trade big time but overall they got 2 pieces that fit really well in a 3 and D big wing that can handle the slew of great wings in the league and a 3 pt shooting big.

 

Best part of the deal is that Covington and Saric shoot 10+ 3's/game combined.

All very good points.

 

However, I was really just referring to his on court demeanor. I haven’t watched a ton of Wolves games this season, but that dude is always whining about something. Maybe I’m wrong.

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Don’t remember whose take it was that I read, but it rang true tonight: Covington is pretty much Jimmy Lite. He can be super effective with his defense, iq, and occasional scoring without needing to have the ball in his hands. Looked good. Also, with the 2 players for 1 trade, I dare say it appears the wolves might actually have some depth. Good for them!

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Don’t remember whose take it was that I read, but it rang true tonight: Covington is pretty much Jimmy Lite. He can be super effective with his defense, iq, and occasional scoring without needing to have the ball in his hands. Looked good. Also, with the 2 players for 1 trade, I dare say it appears the wolves might actually have some depth. Good for them!

I think the Jimmy Lite comparison doesn't really work aside from defense. He doesn't need the ball on offense whereas Butler needed the ball.

 

This trade basically boils down to the Wolves getting two players that are exactly the roles that they needed. Floor spacers that don't need the ball in their hands because they already have plenty of guys that need the ball. This team will be better w/o Jimmy (great player) and compete for a playoff spot imo. Tough conference though.

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I think the Jimmy Lite comparison doesn't really work aside from defense. He doesn't need the ball on offense whereas Butler needed the ball.

 

This trade basically boils down to the Wolves getting two players that are exactly the roles that they needed. Floor spacers that don't need the ball in their hands because they already have plenty of guys that need the ball. This team will be better w/o Jimmy (great player) and compete for a playoff spot imo. Tough conference though.

 

I believe it was based on my comment where Covington handles the defensive aspects of the hole Butler leaving creates but it's going to fall to Wiggins to handle the ball-in-hands offensive responsibilities. But I think more reasonably Covington is an elite defensive piece, and love it or hate it Thibs is always going to be a tough-minded defensive coach. You hope you can get back to the playoffs based on that. And if not, well, it's not a bad year to be in the lottery. Right now, the guy who's going to be in the 8-10 range looks like a 4/5 overall pick most years. 

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I believe it was based on my comment where Covington handles the defensive aspects of the hole Butler leaving creates but it's going to fall to Wiggins to handle the ball-in-hands offensive responsibilities. But I think more reasonably Covington is an elite defensive piece, and love it or hate it Thibs is always going to be a tough-minded defensive coach. You hope you can get back to the playoffs based on that. And if not, well, it's not a bad year to be in the lottery. Right now, the guy who's going to be in the 8-10 range looks like a 4/5 overall pick most years. 

So Tony Allen (or any good defender) is Jimmy Butler lite? 

I think Covington is exactly the right piece that the Wolves needed. I really like Saric (and always like Bjelica) but I am not as sure about his fit since Covington is the only average or better defender on the floor aside from Gibson (who Saric replaces) most of the time.

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Philly is 6-2 since the trade and Jimmy Buckets drains a game winner last night. Didn't need him.

On the plus side, I guess, Towns has been reaching a higher level than maybe ever before and the wolves are rolling pretty good. Still though, there was no reason Towns couldn’t have played this way with Jimmy if he weren’t so bitter.

 

Just a thought from a Lakers fan here.

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This is the Wolves team we thought we had before the Butler trade except we swapped out Lavine, Dunn and spare parts for Covington, Saric, Rose (he actually has value?) and Gibson. 

The Butler trade was a bomb but I like the thinking behind it. And that thinking is that building a team that losing in the 1st rd each year isn't that great so take a chance and go for it. They were still able to get some value back and the two main pieces fit really well into this team. And now they can go back to losing in the 1st rd.

 

The Wiggins situation was called by quite a few that obsess about the advanced stats but most of us ignored it and just dreamed about the raw talent.

 

The Dieng situation is the 2nd biggest issue on the team. His contract made sense when he was starting at the 4 spot and doing alright. But then they brought in Gibson and made him into a backup center getting 10+ minutes/game. Only 2.5 years remaining...

 

 

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