Article: Report: Ryan Pressly Traded To Houston

[wyowib]

 

with about 10 teams with a better record in the AL, might be the sane move.  No?

 

Can't tell you how much I love the Violet Femmes reference.

[Rosterman]

I'mthinking NONE of the guys need to be put on the 40-man roster. And the chances of any of them being grabbed in a Rule 5 draft are pretty slim at this point, if any of them do need to be grabbed.

 

Pressly has shown a flair in his work for the Twins. Like Jesse Crain years earlier, he had closer written all over him, although, like Crain, it may never pan out in the long run.

 

One thing we know. 51 appearances. Molitor will now have to find someone else to overwork.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Someone smarter than me: does Alcala need to be on the 40 man next year?

I don’t believe I am smarter than you Chief, but i’ll Take a stab...

 

His first season was 2015, his birthday is July 1995, so assuming he signed then immediately joined the team, that would put him 19 at the time. I gotta think if he signed earlier, he’d play pro ball during his 18 season... so, with 2018 being his 4th rule 5 draft, he’ll need to be added to the 40 to protect him.

[USAFChief]

I don’t believe I am smarter than you Chief, but i’ll Take a stab...

His first season was 2015, his birthday is July 1995, so assuming he signed then immediately joined the team, that would put him 19 at the time. I gotta think if he signed earlier, he’d play pro ball during his 18 season... so, with 2018 being his 4th rule 5 draft, he’ll need to be added to the 40 to protect him.

Thanks, and thanks Bill above.

 

Btw, Damn near everyone here is smarter than me, Sconnie. But I beat most everyone in “experience.”

[Riverbrian]

 

I think that he does.  He signed with the Astros after he had turned 19.  This will be his fourth season in the minors.  As such, I think he is Rule 5 eligible if not added to the 40-man.

 

You are such a show off. 

 

[Danchat]

It's a bit sad to see two guys who overcame the odds go. Pressly had to spend the entire 2013 season on the roster as a Rule 5 pick, and he was able to stick around and he's improved in leaps and bounds. Escobar was considered the equivalent of a bag of baseballs when he was acquired. They'll go down as two success stories from the second Terry Ryan era that didn't have enough success stories. 

 

Here's hoping that Pressly can find his groove and dominate for the Astros in the playoffs. I'd love to see him shut down the Yankees/Red Sox in a late game situation - when Pressly is hot, nobody hits off of him. Hopefully Houston will utilize him better than Molitor has.

[Riverbrian]

 

I don’t believe I am smarter than you Chief, but i’ll Take a stab...

His first season was 2015, his birthday is July 1995, so assuming he signed then immediately joined the team, that would put him 19 at the time. I gotta think if he signed earlier, he’d play pro ball during his 18 season... so, with 2018 being his 4th rule 5 draft, he’ll need to be added to the 40 to protect him.

 

His birthday is in 6 minutes or Today on the East coast. 

 

I wonder if he likes his birthday present of a trade to Chattanooga. 

 

[howeda7]

 

with about 10 teams with a better record in the AL, might be the sane move.  No?

 

This is such lame logic. The Astros will be good for a long time. The Yankees and Red Sox will always be good. By this logic, we should trade everyone a curl up in a ball in the fetal position. 

[nater79a]

 

Gotta think the FO thought the return was too good to turn down for Pressly, a controllable asset.

 

As mentioned above, gotta believe if Gibby gets moved then that tells you how the front office thinks about next year. But I'd also add that that means they probably aren't putting too much stock into Buxton and Sano ever become decent players.

 

 

I think relievers may be viewed by the FO as more fungible than starters. I’m not yet convinced they’ll deal Gibby.

Dozier on the other hand...

 

Question is, what contenders still are looking for a 2B like Dozier?    D-Backs and Milwaukee both solved their keystone corner issues today.  Who does that leave...Boston maybe?  Not going to get much of a return, I suspect.

 

Doesn't really help that Dozier has played poorly out of the break. 

[PseudoSABR]

I, for one, am glad to see the Twins sell high on a controllable asset (esp. a bullpen piece).   What's the old saying: better to sell to early than too late.

[BJames]

Pressly never became that dependable for the Twins.  The one thing I will put on the F.O. again is the fact we have 6 starters on the roster, WHY? we could have used Moya tonight!  Over using Belisle I blame on Molitor.  

[BJames]

Does this not leave us 2 open spots on the 40 man roster? If so I'd like to see Nick Anderson get a shot in the Bull-Pen. 

[pierre75275]

I'mthinking NONE of the guys need to be put on the 40-man roster. And the chances of any of them being grabbed in a Rule 5 draft are pretty slim at this point, if any of them do need to be grabbed.

 

Pressly has shown a flair in his work for the Twins. Like Jesse Crain years earlier, he had closer written all over him, although, like Crain, it may never pan out in the long run.

 

One thing we know. 51 appearances. Molitor will now have to find someone else to overwork.

[pierre75275]

There is always Matt Belisle

[h2oface]

Coming to the Twins as being touted pitching experts.... the FO tandem has missed horribly. Not just the pitchers on the big league team they added, but the most glaring was Dereck Rodriquiz, letting him go in November FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Since debuting May 29th with the Giants, he is 5-1 with a 2.75 ERA in 59 innings. What a whiff. I have no faith in their supposed expertise of pitcher identification. We sure could have used some of that. But hey, if he had not been just granted free agency, he would probably never had the opportunity. And then they added Belisle. That says it all.

 

Pressly should enjoy pitching for a team like Houston.

Edited July 28, 2018 by h2oface

[jokin]

Wow! Who's next?

I dunno. Let's just hope "we don't get fooled again."

[Otto von Ballpark]

Someone smarter than me: does Alcala need to be on the 40 man next year?

Roster Resource also says yes, Alcala will be Rule 5 eligible this winter:

 

https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-minnesota-twins/

 

Celestino will be Rule 5 eligible the following winter (so, after 2019).

 

Edit to add: from the other trade, the pitcher Duran is also Rule 5 eligible after next season (2019); the two outfielders after 2020.

Edited July 28, 2018 by spycake

[rujellis]

Fixed

 

Pressly never became that dependable for the Twins.  The one thing I will put on the F.O. again is the fact we have 6 starters on the roster, WHY? we could have used Moya tonight!  Over Using Belisle I blame on Molitor.  

 

[rujellis]

Actually, I think once we get rid of Rodney, Gibson, Lynn, Santana, Duke, etc.  Belisle will actually have the role he was originally brought in for...there will be so many young guys that Belisle can mentor that he will finally live up to his value.  

 

And FWIW, I do think its an important role.  Young guys do need some help with routine, preparation, getting through life on the road, etc.  I just wish we could find someone that can also be useful in a game.  

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Question is, what contenders still are looking for a 2B like Dozier? D-Backs and Milwaukee both solved their keystone corner issues today. Who does that leave...Boston maybe? Not going to get much of a return, I suspect.

 

Doesn't really help that Dozier has played poorly out of the break.

Boston or Colorado, I guess. Correct, not much of a market left. To get much for Dozier, Brewers needed to be still in the mix

[diehardtwinsfan]

I remember the angst when we took Pressley as a rule V candidate... looks like it turned out pretty well. Not sure I'm happy with the idea of punting on 2019, if that's what this is, but I do like the return...

 

But since we are officially sellers, can we cut Belisle and bring up another AAA reliever?

[Otto von Ballpark]

I remember the angst when we took Pressley as a rule V candidate... looks like it turned out pretty well.

Was there angst over selecting Pressly in Rule 5? We weren't competing at the time, and Pressly always seemed like a good candidate for a pen conversion.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Speaking of Rule 5, I wonder if Alcala would have been available in Rule 5 this winter if he had stayed with Houston. Obviously there is advantage to acquiring him without Rule 5 restrictions, but I am just wondering how that contributed to Houston making him available. (I theorized the same last year about Littell and Moya.)

[Doctor Wu]

This one took me by surprise. But from what I've been reading, we got two good prospects in the deal, so I'm content. And as much as I like Esccobar, the fact that we were able to get three prospects for his last two months is beyond acceptable. Still hoping we can unload Dozier and Rodney, with maybe Lynn packing his bags too, but this is a start. That said, Pressly was a player I would have preferred to have kept. And hey, maybe we can still go out and grab Escobar again next year.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

This one took me by surprise. But from what I've been reading, we got two good prospects in the deal, so I'm content. And as much as I like Esccobar, the fact that we were able to get three prospects for his last two months is beyond acceptable. Still hoping we can unload Dozier and Rodney, with maybe Lynn packing his bags too, but this is a start. That said, Pressly was a player I would have preferred to have kept. And hey, maybe we can still go out and grab Escobar again next year.

 

I certainly would. I think he's of more value to the Twins on a 3-4 year deal than what we got for him. The league clearly doesn't value him, which is a shame. 

[yarnivek1972]

If we are selling, and thereby giving up on the season, there’s definitely not point to let Belisle have a kid’s roster spot, right?

 

Right?

Or Logan Morrison.

[bird]

 

Someone smarter than me: does Alcala need to be on the 40 man next year?

 

 

Anybody? Anybody?

[jmlease1]

I tend to see relievers as fairly fungible assets, so getting a good return on Pressly who has been frustratingly inconsistent in his time on the MLB roster is good. It's not like we don't have young relievers who look ready to contribute for the big club, so I don't see moving on from Pressly as a disaster by any means.

 

I don't think this sends any real signals about next year's team at all. Trading Gibson or Odorizzi for A-ball lottery tickets might be a signal, but the real decision is going to be in free agency when we see what the FO does with all that payroll flexibility. They could be looking at $50M+ coming off the books allowing for a lot of room to sign FA pieces. If they don't spend to fill holes, then you'll know, but trading a reliever like Pressly doesn't real mean a lot on that front.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Anybody? Anybody?

Does anyone know the age cutoff that defines the difference between needing 4 years or 5 years before being rule V eligible?

 

I know HS/international FAs require 5 years. College players are 4 years. If the cutoff is 19, then he needs to be added this season unless he was 18 when he signed.

[the_brute_squad]

I like the trade - actually both trades. I liked Escobar but if he's part of the plan he's someone we can bring back in a few months while at the same time we've picked up at least one piece for the future. Assuming Joe, Erv, and Dozier are gone will free up around $40 million in payroll. We can certainly make a dent on the free agent market. There's no need to give up on next year when the players we thought (Buck, Sano, Polanco) would lead us this year will be playing a full season. There's a promising future at Target Field - it's just not in 2018.