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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:06 PM, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

It does look like Berrios is off, though I realize people like to say that every time any pitcher lets a baserunner on.

He clearly didn’t have good stuff or good command right from the first inning.

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Sue, Paul, if you’re going to let Berrios pitch this inning...then let him pitch this inning. Don’t pull him NOW. Finish the inning, you *********.

 

Im told managers don’t matter though.

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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:08 PM, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

This is why we hired a hundred and seventy analytics guys in the offseason, because analytics is what wins, not players

 

I'm not sure that's a fair analysis.....they spent more this year on players than at any time in their history. 

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I’m not going to criticize Molitor for failing to remove Berrios. Even though it is pretty obvious he was well off his game today. If Berrios is going to be the ace of this staff, he needs to figure out how to get outs and give his team a chance to win when he doesn’t have it.

 

Frankly, in what is increasingly looking like a lost season, this kind of humbling can be good for Berrios. It will make him remember that he still needs to work to get better everyday (as does everyone else).

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Why pull Berrios here? Addison Russell just hit a shallow fly ball that on 364 days per year is caught in left field. Going to the bullpen now seems like a bad decision IMO. I'd have left him out there to at least finish the frame....

 

Also, it seems like the Twins always get jobbed in quirky bandbox stadiums like Yankee Stadium, now in Wrigley, etc.

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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:11 PM, yarnivek1972 said:

I’m not going to criticize Molitor for failing to remove Berrios. Even though it is pretty obvious he was well off his game today. If Berrios is going to be the ace of this staff, he needs to figure out how to get outs and give his team a chance to win when he doesn’t have it.

Frankly, in what is increasingly looking like a lost season, this kind of humbling can be good for Berrios. It will make him remember that he still needs to work to get better everyday (as does everyone else).

 

no issue not taking him out, but then leave him in after the GS. IMO

 

and I'm not sure that we agree he needs humbling.....nor do I think he needs to be reminded he needs to keep working to improve.

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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:07 PM, wsnydes said:

What a bad time to get home to turn the game on...

LOL same here. Turned it on, first pitch grand slam...guh!

 

Pressly just needs to get out of this inning with no more runs to give the Twins a chance. Here's hoping he doesn't implode or I just might...

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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:01 PM, USAFChief said:

There was nothing wrong with Doziers play there. They ended up with runners on 2nd and 3rd, two out. That’s the exact same situation they’d have been in had Dozier retreated to 3rd. And he forced the Cubs to make a throw, and nearly scored.

Typically on first and third, one out, you tell the runner to go on contact anyway, to force the defense to chose between coming home, which keeps the inning alive, or sttrmpting a DP, which will result in a run if they don’t turn it.

The only thing I’ll say is in this case, they probably had no chance to turn two, with the first baseman so far from first, but there’s no way for Dozier to make that call in an instant. And we’d still have two on, two out, which is what happened anyway. Might even be first and third instead of second and third.

The fault lies with Kepler, not Dozier. Get the ball into the OF.

Given the fact that he froze in his place, my hunch is that the contact play was not on. People can defend him all they want, but he makes some absolutely boneheaded decisions. He's looked "smart" a few times because of errors and missed tags, but that doesn't make it a good decision.

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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:12 PM, Mike Sixel said:

no issue not taking him out, but then leave him in after the GS. IMO

 

My thoughts exactly, seemed like a bad move to take him out AFTER the GS.

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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:12 PM, bighat said:

Why pull Berrios here? Addison Russell just hit a shallow fly ball that on 364 days per year is caught in left field. Going to the bullpen now seems like a bad decision IMO. I'd have left him out there to at least finish the frame....

 

Also, it seems like the Twins always get jobbed in quirky bandbox stadiums like Yankee Stadium, now in Wrigley, etc.

It wasn't quite flower pot first row, but it was definitely a Wrigley homer
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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:11 PM, yarnivek1972 said:

I’m not going to criticize Molitor for failing to remove Berrios. Even though it is pretty obvious he was well off his game today. If Berrios is going to be the ace of this staff, he needs to figure out how to get outs and give his team a chance to win when he doesn’t have it.

Frankly, in what is increasingly looking like a lost season, this kind of humbling can be good for Berrios. It will make him remember that he still needs to work to get better everyday (as does everyone else).

I agree on letting him pitch the fifth. Absolutely.

 

But then let him pitch it. Because if he was out gas, then he SHOULNT have let him pitch, and if he wasn’t, then there’s no reason to take him out there.

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  On 6/29/2018 at 11:14 PM, jud6312 said:

Given the fact that he froze in his place, my hunch is that the contact play was not on. People can defend him all they want, but he makes some absolutely boneheaded decisions. He's looked "smart" a few times because of errors and missed tags, but that doesn't make it a good decision.

He sometimes makes bad decisions, this wasn’t one of them IMO.

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