The Heimlich maneuver

[FlauerPauer]

What if he donated like 95% of his earnings to organizations that help people who were sexually assaulted? Would this make a difference? Change the 95% to what is equivalent to making a livable wage.

 

What is the MLB code of conduct regarding sex offenders? Do MLB players need to be fingerprinted? IF he truly didn't do it, why would he apologize? The mother is obviously going to believe his daughter, where are his parents? Every article I have read, I haven't seen anything from his parents.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is no longer on the sex offender registry. He satisfied all of his legal court requirements. He has done all that other felons have done and been released from prison. Maybe he doesn't deserve to work for Major League Baseball, but at the end of the day, Donald Trump doesn't deserve to be president; and while not guilty of sexual assault, it is clearly known he is a sex offender.

 

Also, to all of you saying he "raped" his niece, no one actually knows what the assault was; no article states what happened.

[biggentleben]

 

What if he donated like 95% of his earnings to organizations that help people who were sexually assaulted? Would this make a difference? Change the 95% to what is equivalent to making a livable wage.

 

What is the MLB code of conduct regarding sex offenders? Do MLB players need to be fingerprinted? IF he truly didn't do it, why would he apologize? The mother is obviously going to believe his daughter, where are his parents? Every article I have read, I haven't seen anything from his parents.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is no longer on the sex offender registry. He satisfied all of his legal court requirements. He has done all that other felons have done and been released from prison. Maybe he doesn't deserve to work for Major League Baseball, but at the end of the day, Donald Trump doesn't deserve to be president; and while not guilty of sexual assault, it is clearly known he is a sex offender.

 

Also, to all of you saying he "raped" his niece, no one actually knows what the assault was; no article states what happened.

 

He'd have to make the majors before he'd be making a living wage as it is.

[ken]

I have just one question to those who think he should be signed, what if the victim had been your daughter?

What if he was your son?

 

Very interesting discussion, but either you believe a 15 year old can change or you don't. I've got to believe they can,if not, it's not a question about whether he should be given an opportunity in MLB, the question should be why don't we lock up people like this for life.

[goulik]

My question is if he did this when he was 15 years old, why do we know anything about it.

It is a commonly believed lie that every thing you do disappears when you turn 18 and is sealed. Some things can follow you the rest of your life. The court system will usually hide it until you're 18 but that's not always the case either. You can be certified as an adult when your younger than 18 for some crimes and when your old enough (the courts can again decide this age) transfer you form juvenile corrections to adult. I knew a middle school sexual offender that was most likely going to spend the rest of his life in corrections here in Minnesota. I knew him well.

 

Having said that I believe in innocent until proven guilty and will not discuss nor try this case in the court of public opinion. That is done too often. If the courts say he can play and is rehabbed, I'm done discussing it.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

While I am as guilty as the next for propagating this thread, it does make me yearn for the days that the value received in the upcoming Brian Duensing trade was the most vitriol tossed to and fro on here. I have some other thoughts I will keep to myself in deference to the Chiefs subtle rebuke just above. In closing I hope that both the girl and Luke Heimlich are able to go forward in some manner. That's going to require the girl to forgive, and while never really forgetting, to understand someday this doesn't define her. And for Heimlich never to forget, but to remind himself each day that his whole life is a second chance, and to make the best of it. That's really the only way he will ever be forgiven. Those two and only those two will decide down the road, the ultimate outcome of this sad situation.

 

Something that I think that has been missed here, but worth noting. If the SI piece is accurate, the girl remembers nothing. I'm not saying this to justify/not justify signing, but to point this out given that it has been brought up a number of times. 

[Mr. Brooks]

Something that I think that has been missed here, but worth noting. If the SI piece is accurate, the girl remembers nothing. I'm not saying this to justify/not justify signing, but to point this out given that it has been brought up a number of times.

 

Not quite. Little is not the same as nothing.

 

 

'According to her mother, she's doing well these days. She has little memory of what happened when she was four to six years old, and seemingly no lingering effect has surfaced—"she just knows that [Luke] was inappropriate," the mother says. "But those kind of things manifest differently in every single victim. As far as I can tell, no, it hasn't. She's still my superstar girl; she's stronger than most full-grown women. I mean, she's great. But I do worry that in the future that it will."'