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And then there are some posters you should just put on ignore ...

I just did an internet search to find out what punctuation meant. Turns out it as something to do with being on-time. 

 

 

Not sure about the whole definition, but they definitely nailed the "nerd" parts.

As a wise man once said:

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I just did an internet search to find out what punctuation meant. Turns out it as something to do with being on-time.

 

At least you acknowledge the need for an editor.

Some kids don’t even learn cursive anymore

And thank god for that.

 

Kids go to school 7-8 hours a day, five days a week, nine months a year. That hasn’t changed in a century.

 

Except we live in the 21st century now. Do you want your kids learning cursive writing or computer UIs, new media, software, etc?

 

You can choose one or the other.

And thank god for that.

 

Kids go to school 7-8 hours a day, five days a week, nine months a year. That hasn’t changed in a century.

 

Except we live in the 21st century now. Do you want your kids learning cursive writing or computer UIs, new media, software, etc?

 

You can choose one or the other.

Well, summer vacation could be a little shorter...

 

The point of cursive was things have changed. You emphasized that well. Computer science is critical and needs to be taught in grammar school.

 

I do agree with the OP that composition is important. We shouldn’t let spell check assume our intent. I just accept and live with the fact that people have different ways of getting that done.

Coming from someone whose hand writing is so poor people won't even take checks from me, at least I think that's why, I still think that kids should learn cursive, but maybe less emphasis on the beauty of it. Cursive is sort of one of the basics like readin, writin, and rithmatic. And spellin. There has to be a basis for the use of all the electronic marvels we now possess. In theory a four year old can text anything they can say via speaking into a iPhone. But that doesn't mean they can skip spelling, or writing. For it they did eventually life would be filled with even more senseless texts, and I am sure emails, where the device mistook what we said, and gave it an entirely new meaning. I speak from experience. I married someone like that, and she has misunderstood many of my utterances over the years. Much to my chagrin.

No need to learn cursive at all, imo.

 

And, we should consider accepting new ways to spell some words, as English is terrible anyway....

No need to learn cursive at all, imo.

And, we should consider accepting new ways to spell some words, as English is terrible anyway....

And pretty much every generation agrees, at least in their own terms. This isn't new, it's annoying for those of us who have spent decades learning the language, but it's not like John Steinbeck and William Shakespeare used the same vocabulary, definitions or even spelling.

 

The olde guard probably thought the younger generations lost all honour when they started dropping silent e's and u's a couple hundred years ago.

And pretty much every generation agrees, at least in their own terms. This isn't new, it's annoying for those of us who have spent decades learning the language, but it's not like John Steinbeck and William Shakespeare used the same vocabulary, definitions or even spelling.

The olde guard probably thought the younger generations lost all honour when they started dropping silent e's and u's a couple hundred years ago.

I saw what you did here. Very clever. To address Mike, I agree English spellings and meanings can be silly, and confusing. But every1 kant just spell inn theyre own manur. And that's what texting and other forms of auto spell and talk to text are doing. Some of the talk to text ones are pretty funny, and some are pretty embarrassing. Depends on who gets them.

Just code everything into Lincos (look it up).

 

No need to learn cursive at all, imo.

And, we should consider accepting new ways to spell some words, as English is terrible anyway....

Well, we are working towards acceptance of new spellings ... 'of' instead of 'have,' for instance.

Well, we are working towards acceptance of new spellings ... 'of' instead of 'have,' for instance.

TD policy prohibits me from appropriately responding to this post, alas.

 

TD policy prohibits me from appropriately responding to this post, alas.

Well, one could argue that my post was trolling you just a bit

 

And thank god for that.

Kids go to school 7-8 hours a day, five days a week, nine months a year. That hasn’t changed in a century.

Except we live in the 21st century now. Do you want your kids learning cursive writing or computer UIs, new media, software, etc?

You can choose one or the other.

I'm not sure you need to chose one or the other.

 

My kids learned cursive, and I'm glad they did. When they get a handwritten note at work from their boss, they can read it and respond.

 

I'm not sure I can go through a week without the need to read something written in cursive. Stop and think about it...do you?

 

We'll see, I guess. It's a fairly new phenomenon. I have two kids and a son-in-law in public education, and they will tell you the issue isn't universally considered a step forward in education.

I'm not sure you need to chose one or the other.

 

My kids learned cursive, and I'm glad they did. When they get a handwritten note at work from their boss, they can read it and respond.

 

I'm not sure I can go through a week without the need to read something written in cursive. Stop and think about it...do you?

 

We'll see, I guess. It's a fairly new phenomenon. I have two kids and a son-in-law in public education, and they will tell you the issue isn't universally considered a step forward in education.

Do employers still communicate via handwritten, cursive letters? That's amazing to me, if true, and not anecdotal.

I'm 35, and have never in my life gotten business correspondence in anything other than typed memos, or (mostly) digital communications. I'd imagine for anyone going to school now, that will especially be the case.

Sure, I might occasionally get a birthday or xmas card from a relative that has something written in cursive inside it, but that's certainly not the responsibility of school, IMO.

Parents can still choose to teach their children cursive if they choose.

I just don't see how cursive any longer has much, if any, relevance to the areas of life that school should be preparing kids for.

Beyond a signature, cursive writing doesn’t play much of a role in business communication.

 

However, there still exist people who write actual letters on actual paper using actual ink.

 

And in any event, I’d enter a plea for calligraphy (especially Asian) as a beautiful and relaxing art form.

Side note: I love this place.  Sustained discussions about the value of cursive and two-spaces after a period.

Edited May 22, 20188 yr by PseudoSABR

A couple things:

 

1) No one actually writes in cursive.  The vast majority of people end up blurring their print and cursive into a near illegible amalgamation no one can effectively read anyway.

 

2) You can teach people to read cursive in a fraction of the time it takes to write it. 

 

3) I see value in being able to read it.  I see no value in being able to write with it.  This will only continue to be the case as we move further and further away from wide-spread use of cursive writing in our interactions.

 

4) My opinion is only partially (read: almost entirely) due to how much I hate teaching it and how little value I find in it for my students.

 

I teach my kids coding and give them experience with that.  Every second I was forced to waste on cursive is time I could've invested in the many wonderful resources for early coding and problem solving that are out there.  

Edited May 22, 20188 yr by TheLeviathan

 

Side note: I love this place.  Sustained discussions about the value of cursive and two-spaces after a period.

I'm guessing you put two spaces between "place.  Sustained" on purpose.

 

Well played.

Pressley in the past was way way NSFW. Being if you were watching him at work, within minutes you'd be swearing up a storm, ****, ****, *** **** **, etc... This year he has been relatively safe for work, so far. But yes I agree with the other poster that the whole bullpen is for the most part NSFW.

Pressley in the past was way way NSFW. Being if you were watching him at work, within minutes you'd be swearing up a storm, ****, ****, *** **** **, etc... This year he has been relatively safe for work, so far. But yes I agree with the other poster that the whole bullpen is for the most part NSFW.

There are other forums at TD for discussing the Twins. Please keep baseball out of this serious topic.

 

J/K

^_mostly

I'm not sure you need to chose one or the other.

 

My kids learned cursive, and I'm glad they did. When they get a handwritten note at work from their boss, they can read it and respond.

 

I'm not sure I can go through a week without the need to read something written in cursive. Stop and think about it...do you?

 

We'll see, I guess. It's a fairly new phenomenon. I have two kids and a son-in-law in public education, and they will tell you the issue isn't universally considered a step forward in education.

i have received one thank you card and one birthday card per year as the only cursive correspondence I have received for several years.

 

Handwritten post it notes in my office are frequent and all printed

i have received one thank you card and one birthday card per year as the only cursive correspondence I have received for several years.

Handwritten post it notes in my office are frequent and all printed

I receive hand written notes all the time at work, in one various form or another, but often cursive. I also write and leave notes of one form or another, usually hand written.

I have tried to convince my 22 and almost 21 year old sons to write handwritten thank you notes for interviews and the like. You'd think I suggested jumping off a bridge or something.....

I have tried to convince my 22 and almost 21 year old sons to write handwritten thank you notes for interviews and the like. You'd think I suggested jumping off a bridge or something.....

Please keep asking them to do it. Handwritten letters are becoming a lost art, and separates them from most millennials out there.

 

Most decision makers appreciate the personal touch and it's helped me get out of "voice mail jail" with several companies.

I send handwritten notes and cards as often as I can remember to do so, but I also have very good print writing and just average cursive writing, so taking that pride in my print writing has led me to utilize print in most of my notes.

Handwriting isn't going away, it's still a fundamental part of learning to be literate.  

 

But we should also be realistic about the purpose and the future use.  The necessity of hand-writing is only going to further diminish for adults.  Personally, I don't feel the need to romanticize it's value beyond the early learning process.  

Handwriting isn't going away, it's still a fundamental part of learning to be literate.

 

But we should also be realistic about the purpose and the future use. The necessity of hand-writing is only going to further diminish for adults. Personally, I don't feel the need to romanticize it's value beyond the early learning process.

And the small niche that it has become can be taught at home.