Article: Twins Pitching For More Pitching

[nicksaviking]

 

I don't know how much more obvious it could be. He's a proven vet. Mejia isn't and may never be. If I'm not mistaken, he was the 5th highest rated starting pitcher in free agency based on projected WAR. I know you believe in those WAR things.

 

This board was screaming that the old regime didn't believe in advanced metrics. Now we get a group that clearly does, and we are going to pretend we know more? Also, every single AL team will take pitchers from the NL. 

 

If the new regime believed in Lance Lynn's WAR, they would have signed him long ago and for much more than 2 years $20M.

 

I'm not ripping on the front office, they've shown nothing to indicate they believe Lynn is anything more than a back of the rotation guy. I'm saying Lynn isn't nearly as good as the smoke and mirrors he trots out to the mound which are unlikely to follow him out of St. Louis.

 

Also, the only thing that "proven" vets prove is that they've been around awhile. There's a reason teams are going younger. Being a vet does not necessarily make a better player, they just necessarily make them older.

[spanman2]

 

Couple points:

1) While it may seem like a low ball offer, certainly nobody else has offered enough for him to sign as of yet.

2) Could the offer have been a casual inquiry to feel Lynn and his representation out rather than a "here, take this" offer?

3) At some point, Lynn, Cobb and Arietta may have to accept lowering their initial demands and expectations, or consider a 1 year deal.

I guess I'm just saying the FO is at least interested in another addition, but not sure we know enough about all the factors and conversations involved.

Couldn't agree more.  I think the closer it gets to paychecks being deposited into accounts etc. the remaining pitchers will have to face the facts that teams are no longer going to hand out 5+ year deals like they are candy at a parade.  It will be interesting to see what materializes the next 2 weeks or so.

[Brandon]

I think a good bet on yourself contract would be nice. 2 year 25 million contract with 3-4 million incentives per season with an option third season with 10 milliin base that goes up with innings pitched and becomes guarenteed at 185 or so.

 

Having 5 #3 starters in the rotation is a great idea.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I think a good bet on yourself contract would be nice. 2 year 25 million contract with 3-4 million incentives per season with an option third season with 10 milliin base that goes up with innings pitched and becomes guarenteed at 185 or so.

 

Having 5 #3 starters in the rotation is a great idea.

Lynn is almost 31, if he's going to bet on himself, it would be a 1 year deal. (Or include an opt out after 1 year.)

[cmoss84]

 

I don't think Lynn is obviously a better option than Mejia.

 

People might speculate that he is, but there's nothing ever obvious about signing mid-level free agent pitchers and if anyone knows that, it's the Twins. Lynn's repertoire is bad, his peripheral stats are bad and his splits are bad. He's basically good measured on Wins and ERA. I don't trust that moving to a new league and a new team and a new stadium.

 

Also, if this team is going to be a buyer mid-season, I'd rather save the money for then. They're not going to be able to find room for a Justin Verlander this July if they are already at their max payroll.

Mejia seems to struggle getting through 5 inn almost every single game he pitches in. He is a mid-4's ERA guy. ERA counts for something, especially with a really good defense behind you. 

 

If Lynn makes 30 starts and throws 180 inn with an ERA in the low 4's, doesn't that seem to be an improvement over Mejia? I am cheering for Mejia to take the next step-and he very well might. But Lynn is an improvement over Mejia, and might mean 2-3 more wins on the season...which is the difference in getting a wild card bid or not. 

[jorgenswest]

At some point I think they wait into the season. The draft pick will go away. Injuries and poor pitching will create a better market.

[Kelly Vance]

The more I think about it, the more I want our Twins to let Gonsalves and Romero compete for the 4 and 5 spots.  Look at it this way. If 2019 is the real year we will expect to go deep into the playoffs, those guys need the year to get hit, get beat, and get better. OJT. Worked for Berrios. So why let the old guys block them? Let the kids play. May will be ready down the road and Santana will be fine in a month or two. 

 

As a spectator, I'd much rather watch the kids than watch Hughes or Sanchez get shelled.  

[Richie the Rally Goat]

It’s official Lynn agrees to one year 12 mil with Twins

https://mobile.twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/972587636866117632

Edited March 10, 2018 by Sconnie

[jokin]

 

Lynn is almost 31, if he's going to bet on himself, it would be a 1 year deal. (Or include an opt out after 1 year.)

 

 

Good call.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Lynn is almost 31, if he's going to bet on himself, it would be a 1 year deal. (Or include an opt out after 1 year.)

had to check the time stamp to make sure the was a prediction