MLB.COM Comes out with new top 30 prospect list

[Vanimal46]

 

Using mlb.com methodology I calculated the Prospect Points for every organization. The Twins are 19th. Here is the entire list:

 

Royals 0

 

It's going to be a long, looooong road to respectability for our friends down I-35... 

[Thrylos]

 

I think everybody would agree he really isn't the Twins 3rd best possible baseball player, but at this point he has a way better chance of playing in the big leagues then most of the guys between Alex Kirilloff,Wander Javier,Blayne Enlow,Brusdar Graterol,Akil Baddoo,Lewis Thorpe.

 

If that were their MO, then numbers  17, 19, 21, 26 all of whom have played in the majors should have been ranked higher...

 

I think that they just overrate Gonsalves for sure

[Oxtung]

 

Depending on how much weight you want to put on more elite prospects as opposed to depth, we're going to see some variance. Not because of this ranking, I just find other rankings more credible, including Sickles, KLAW, and BA to name three. All three would take issue with a number of things about the value and relevance of MLB's distribution of points. For example, I think eyebrows would immediately be raised about any team receiving zeros. What does a zero suggest? Is the Cubs system that much worse than a team with 160 points? I'm going to guess MLB's ranking will be an outlier, maybe five slots or so worse than any of the other credible publications.

Prospect Points is just one way to rank the results of the top 100 prospects. As I said in the post above the mlb.com prospect team didn't just use prospect points (though that was my original assumption at first glance and why I said the Twins wouldn't be 11th). For instance they ranked the A's farm system seventh even though they were 14th in prospect points. The mlb.com team felt the they had a better depth of prospects outside of the top 100 than at least seven other teams.

 

Since the mlb.com team only ranked their top 10 systems it is up to the reader to determine where the Twins might fall on the list. The only data point we have is based on the top 100 prospects the Twins system ranked 19th. That said, it seems likely their system as a whole would rank higher given the depth of prospects just outside the top 100. Just how high is up to you to decide for yourself! 

[2wins87]

 

Prospect Points is just one way to rank the results of the top 100 prospects. As I said in the post above the mlb.com prospect team didn't just use prospect points (though that was my original assumption at first glance and why I said the Twins wouldn't be 11th). For instance they ranked the A's farm system seventh even though they were 14th in prospect points. The mlb.com team felt the they had a better depth of prospects outside of the top 100 than at least seven other teams.

 

Since the mlb.com team only ranked their top 10 systems it is up to the reader to determine where the Twins might fall on the list. The only data point we have is based on the top 100 prospects the Twins system ranked 19th. That said, it seems likely their system as a whole would rank higher given the depth of prospects just outside the top 100. Just how high is up to you to decide for yourself! 

 

Mayo himself said the system had possibly the most upside outside of the top 100 prospects in his writeup.  That's a pretty nice data point. 

 

I doubt Callis and Mayo really put any stock in their prospect points system, it's just a quick way to put a number value on systems.  They'd probably tell you to pay more attention to their scouting grades.  The Twins have nice depth with their 55/50 graded guys.

 

The system is comfortably in the top half of farm systems.  I think most national publications would agree with this, though most also probably wouldn't put them in the top 10 at this point.

 

This is all sort of arbitrary anyway.  The MLB team is already young and there's still a nice group of guys close to the majors ready to replace some of the veterans.  Their lower levels have a couple guys with very high upside.  Their competitive window is opening and the farm system looks set up well to extend it for the foreseeable future.  Beyond 4 or 5 years into the future their success will be more determined by the contract obligations they make in the majors anyway.

[howieramone2]

 

Mayo himself said the system had possibly the most upside outside of the top 100 prospects in his writeup.  That's a pretty nice data point. 

 

I doubt Callis and Mayo really put any stock in their prospect points system, it's just a quick way to put a number value on systems.  They'd probably tell you to pay more attention to their scouting grades.  The Twins have nice depth with their 55/50 graded guys.

 

The system is comfortably in the top half of farm systems.  I think most national publications would agree with this, though most also probably wouldn't put them in the top 10 at this point.

 

This is all sort of arbitrary anyway.  The MLB team is already young and there's still a nice group of guys close to the majors ready to replace some of the veterans.  Their lower levels have a couple guys with very high upside.  Their competitive window is opening and the farm system looks set up well to extend it for the foreseeable future.  Beyond 4 or 5 years into the future their success will be more determined by the contract obligations they make in the majors anyway.

Well said!