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UPDATED: On Friday night, Byron Buxton was named the Best Defensive Centerfielder by Wilson. Also, at the Rawlings ceremony, Buxton was presented the Rawlings Platinum Glove as the best defensive player in baseball!

 

For the first time since 2007, the Twins have multiple Gold Glove winners. Brian Dozier and Byron Buxton each won their first career Gold Gloves.

It is the first time since Joe Mauer won his third Gold Glove behind the plate in 2010.

 

Dozier and Buxton are the 42nd and 43rd times the Twins have won Gold Glove Awards.While there is little surprise with the selection of Byron Buxton, despite great competition in center field, many will be surprised that Brian Dozier won.

 

Some of the advanced metrics indicate that while his range may be just league average, or a little lower, he makes the plays that he gets to. Of all AL second basemen with more than 1,000 innings played this year, he had the fewest errors. He also had a lot of web gems.

 

Dozier topped veterans Ian Kinsler and Dustin Pedroia for the award.

 

Buxton beat out Lorenzo Cain and Kevin Pillar, both terrific center fielders, for his award. Kevin Keiermeier was not eligible because of all his time on the disabled list.

 

Buxton ranked third in defensive runs saved this year and second among outfielders to right-fielder Mookie Betts. He had some of the greatest web gems of the year.

 

Congratulations to both. They are both extremely hard workers who deserve any awards they may have coming.

 

Also, Joe Mauer was still snubbed!

 

In addition, Twins Hall of Famer Jim Kaat was named to the Rawlings 60th Anniversary Gold Glove team!

 

 

VOTE!!!! For the next 24 hours, fans can vote for the Platinum Glove Award to recognize the best defensive player of the 2017 season. Byron Buxton should get a lot of votes!

 

UPDATE

 

 

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Love it! But Mauer was robbed!

 

Did Dozier deserve it? I'm not certain he did. And I've seen a lot of questionable awards for GG, all star appearances, pro bowls, etc. But I truly don't understand some of the anti-Dozier sentiment I read. I've seen him make some bad and very questionable plays. I've also seen a lot of steady play and a ton of excellent plays that far outweigh the bad ones. But because he's not more flashy or more perfect he's poor or lousy? I just don't get it.

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My faith in today's defensive metrics is equal to my belief that traditional defensive stats don't truly represent defensive efficiency. Dozier is an okay defender where there are a whole bunch of okay defenders IMHO. Dozier played more games than the other nominees so maybe that matters. Good for him!

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Can I simultaneously be thrilled for Dozier and believe that he didn't have any business winning it?

That's what I'm going with.

 

I will say, I'm least offended by *bad* winners who are good all around players and play virtually every day (such as Hosmer too).

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The voters used a totally different criteria when voting for these two specific candidates. In Buxtons case it seems apparent that they used the actual definition of "Gold Glove". In Doziers they used "Gold Batting Glove". They have awards like AllPro for combined talent, which would have been available. I see Dozier thusly: solid reliable glove, average range, poor but accurate arm, with optical points awarded for diving endlessly and dirty jerseys. Mauer was the one dissed here. His seemingly effortless glove work, and ability to turn any throw within wingspan into an out was completely under appreciated.

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Kudos to Buxton on the award. Well deserved! If he hadn't of won, I would be shouting profanity! Still can't figure out why Dozier won, or more so, why Mauer wasn't even a finalist. More head scratching decisions when it comes to "choosing" finalists for these awards. I shouldn't get all worked up about the seemingly nonsensical process involved in picking the winners, but when all is said and done -- or tabulated --- these awards certainly do factor into a player's career overview.

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Never been a fan of defensive metrics.  For me, the eye test says that Dozier has always been an above average defensive player at 2nd base, but not at short.  I also believe he could transition to third and perform at the same level.  His quick first step and lack of great range would fit better there.  I believe he has plenty of arm for the majority of plays.

 

If he stays healthy Buxton will be in the running for many more in center.  If he finishes 2nd or 3rd in some years to the crop of high end defenders now in the American league that will not seem like an injustice.

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Ok, going to get on my moral high horse here, sorry folks...

 

Only in Minnesota land could we ***** about our own players winning a high profile award.   Why in the Good Lord's name are some of us "upset" about this?   I just don't get it.   Is it because some of us want him gone in exchange for newer shinier prospects?

 

I get it, we all have our own favorite players and vision of what we want the organization and FO to do.   But this is who we have right now.   He's a good person, a decent to even very good player.   Why can't folks be happy for him?

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I'm convinced I don't care at all about the Gold Glove. But I would've been very upset if Buxton hadn't won it. So I guess I care. But starting next year I will no longer care. 

 

Unless Buxton doesn't win it. 

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I am reminded of a tale from some hallmark hairball book if memory serves about the author being disappointed in watching a storied pool shark play. He ran the table, but every shot was an easy shot. Anyone coulda done that! Perhaps there is a similar element in play here?

 

Anyway, someday i might get a high horse, i just have never been good at horse trading...

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Congratulations to Byron Buxton and Brian Dozier!!

 

Now get out there an vote for Buxton to get that Platinum Glove!  He definitely deserves it.  

 

I know the hot stove is cookin' and we're playing fantasy GM, but these awards give a little extension to what was a very fun Twins season.

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Buxton not winning would have been a travesty. He was spectacular this year. If he stays healthy, he will definitely win a bunch of these. Even if he doesn't deserve it in some future year, there seems to be an incumbency factor to the award that's just as pervasive as the gold batting glove factor.

 

And good for Dozier. Despite defensive metrics, yada yada yada, I don't see Kinsler and Pedroia as being noticeably better than him. His playing a lot of games very consistently with the glove was valuable to his team.

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Ok, going to get on my moral high horse here, sorry folks...

 

Only in Minnesota land could we ***** about our own players winning a high profile award.   Why in the Good Lord's name are some of us "upset" about this?   I just don't get it.   Is it because some of us want him gone in exchange for newer shinier prospects?

 

I get it, we all have our own favorite players and vision of what we want the organization and FO to do.   But this is who we have right now.   He's a good person, a decent to even very good player.   Why can't folks be happy for him?

1. Because Dozier didn't deserve this particular award. That's not a knock on Brian, as he had an excellent season.

 

2. A guy who at least deserved consideration, Mauer, didn't even make the finalist cut.

 

I'm glad for Brian but I wish this award was based more on defensive merit and not reputation and/or offense.

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Ok, going to get on my moral high horse here, sorry folks...

 

Only in Minnesota land could we ***** about our own players winning a high profile award. Why in the Good Lord's name are some of us "upset" about this? I just don't get it. Is it because some of us want him gone in exchange for newer shinier prospects?

 

I get it, we all have our own favorite players and vision of what we want the organization and FO to do. But this is who we have right now. He's a good person, a decent to even very good player. Why can't folks be happy for him?

No need to apologize for getting on a moral high horse. Your post doesnt put you on a moral high horse at all.

 

People have a right to discuss whether or not players are deserving on an award. NO ONE SEEMS TO BE UPSET Dozier won (and there of tons of congratulations). Some are just wondering if he was the best choice, and I dont know wondering that means that peole want him gone for new shiny propsects.

 

Some fans are putting their fandom aside and asking if he was deserving in the same way some people are wondering why Hosmer even warrants a top 3 spot much less winning the thing.

 

Its a baseball discussion about the merits of an award.

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Buxton not winning would have been a travesty. He was spectacular this year. If he stays healthy, he will definitely win a bunch of these. Even if he doesn't deserve it in some future year, there seems to be an incumbency factor to the award that's just as pervasive as the gold batting glove factor.

 

And good for Dozier. Despite defensive metrics, yada yada yada, I don't see Kinsler and Pedroia as being noticeably better than him. His playing a lot of games very consistently with the glove was valuable to his team.

Definitely an incumbency factor which really diminishes the award for me.   Hrbek never winning one always comes to mind.   Gordon in the past has played so well in left field that I can hardly believe  he shouldn't be on the 60 year team but 2017 he must have been perfect in games I didn't watch because he was far from it in games I did watch. 

Gibson has had some really good defensive seasons at pitcher but he could be the best ever and not get close to the award if his ERA is north of 4.00.   

Dozier?  meh,   he has had some better years based on my eyeball test but as has been pointed out there are probably worse winners every single year.

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