World Series Chat

[Circus Boy]

I said in July that there's no way either team stays as hot as they were, and that neither would make the WS. Crow. It's what's for dinner.

[drjim]

 

I said in July that there's no way either team stays as hot as they were, and that neither would make the WS. Crow. It's what's for dinner.

 

You were half right, neither team stayed nearly as hot.

[Badsmerf]

There has to be changes to the rules after this series. Games just take way too long.

[Halsey Hall]

After watching this series I think the Twins are a long ways off.  I/ve never seen a team with the makeup of the Astros.  They have so much confidence and play as a team.  Maybe some o the old Packer teams come close.  I hope every Twin watched and listened as time after time you hear how each player worked hard and strived to be the best they could.  These guys never got down, always taking good at bats and putting out 110%.  They deserved to win.

[drjim]

After watching this series I think the Twins are a long ways off. I/ve never seen a team with the makeup of the Astros. They have so much confidence and play as a team. Maybe some o the old Packer teams come close. I hope every Twin watched and listened as time after time you hear how each player worked hard and strived to be the best they could. These guys never got down, always taking good at bats and putting out 110%. They deserved to win.

I think it shows how a team can progress to a championship. Third time in playoffs, core players in their prime, an infusion of youtj, veteran fas and a key trade.

 

The model is right there, and I would also argue it is a good part of Twins development to make playoffs this year, so they can build to core really being ready in 19 and 20.

[Deduno Abides]

And Centeno was the only Astro not to see any game action in the WS.

He was the third catcher!

[Deduno Abides]

this postseason brings to mind the 3-3-3 rotation idea: nine pitchers throw three innings every third game, which works out to 162 innings per season. your best pitcher or two might throw occasional four-inning stints. a handful of additional relievers bridge bad outings and work extra-inning games. i hazily recall la russa briefly trying it in oakland. 

 

from bill james online in 2009:

https://www.billjamesonline.com/article1004/

It works pretty well if you have Clayton Kershaw and Kenley Jansen or Madison Bumgarner and a deep bullpen or Dallas Keuchel, Justin Verlander, Lance McCullers (a good pitcher, despite game 7) and an at-a-new-level Charlie Morton. It might not work as well with other rotations.

[spinowner]

 

There has to be changes to the rules after this series. Games just take way too long.

Very strongly disagree.

[Blake]

Sigh. Baseball season is over.

 

Let the Baseball meetings and Hot Stove league begin!

[Badsmerf]

Very strongly disagree.

You think 3.5+ hours is a good thing? I don't have time for that. Most people don't have time for that. If it was one day a week like football that isn't a problem, but when the playoffs are almost everyday for a month...

 

Games take so long now I fear baseball will not be as attractive to kids. The viewing age is older for baseball already, and if they speed it up it will become a problem. There are other viewing opportunities now, media is changing. Baseball needs to change too.

[snepp]

 

no.

 

Hell hath frozen over.

 

 

 

 

Chief doth expand his vocabulary.

[snepp]

 

He was the third catcher!

 

*Gardy drools*

[flpmagikat]

 

After watching this series I think the Twins are a long ways off.  I/ve never seen a team with the makeup of the Astros.  They have so much confidence and play as a team.  Maybe some o the old Packer teams come close.  I hope every Twin watched and listened as time after time you hear how each player worked hard and strived to be the best they could.  These guys never got down, always taking good at bats and putting out 110%.  They deserved to win.

 

Eh, I'm kinda sorta with you, the twins are a ways off atm from these top tier teams, and the astros certainly deserved to win. But last year people were saying similar things about the cubs, how amazing and unstoppable they were. And while they certainly are quite good, I don't think any mlb(or any other sport) has any teams that are other level. The warriors in nba are kinda like that, but even the start of this year shows that, while of course its important to have great players, and sometimes everyones clicking at once and it is magical while it lasts. But usually thats not the case.

[spinowner]

 

You think 3.5+ hours is a good thing? I don't have time for that. Most people don't have time for that. If it was one day a week like football that isn't a problem, but when the playoffs are almost everyday for a month...

Games take so long now I fear baseball will not be as attractive to kids. The viewing age is older for baseball already, and if they speed it up it will become a problem. There are other viewing opportunities now, media is changing. Baseball needs to change too.

Postseason games, especially WS games, especially game sevens, almost always take longer because there are longer commercial breaks, more pitching changes, and more catcher visits to the mound. I do not favor limiting the second and third reasons because players and managers should be able to strategize as much as they feel is necessary, and there's little to no chance the first will be limited.

I've said this before, but the rule changes I would favor are:

1.) Pitch clock, but only when the bases are empty.

2.) Batter clock (must be in the batter's box within a certain time).

3.) Larger strike zone coupled with a lower mound.

And no others.

 

[Squirrel]

Very strongly disagree.

I think limiting how many trips a catcher can make to the pitching mound in one inning can be limited. They limit coaching visits, catcher visits will be next. Adhere to the pitch clock and how many times a batter steps out if the box. Stop juicing the balls. And limit commercial breaks. These are easy fixes and would not change the sport but would cut the time.

 

Pitching changes themselves ... that one is trickier and I’m not sure that one should be touched.

[spinowner]

 

I think limiting how many trips a catcher can make to the pitching mound in one inning can be limited. They limit coaching visits, catcher visits will be next. Adhere to the pitch clock and how many times a batter steps out if the box. Stop juicing the balls. And limit commercial breaks. These are easy fixes and would not change the sport but would cut the time.

Pitching changes themselves ... that one is trickier and I’m not sure that one should be touched.

I also like the idea of deadening the ball. Technically that's not a rule change but it would definitely help.

I'll still disagree on the catcher visit limits.

And since I'm posting I'll comment that forcing a pitcher to face more than one batter could result in more "injuries". Pull a pitcher after one batter, announce that he has, say, back spasms, and he's day-to-day. And then the next day announce that he has improved overnight and he's ready to go.

[Mr. Brooks]

I also like the idea of deadening the ball. Technically that's not a rule change but it would definitely help.

I'll still disagree on the catcher visit limits.

And since I'm posting I'll comment that forcing a pitcher to face more than one batter could result in more "injuries". Pull a pitcher after one batter, announce that he has, say, back spasms, and he's day-to-day. And then the next day announce that he has improved overnight and he's ready to go.

That's easy to fix. If a guy has to come out before facing 2 batters, he has to go to the DL.

[spinowner]

 

That's easy to fix. If a guy has to come out before facing 2 batters, he has to go to the DL.

 I'm pretty sure that this would not be allowed. The rules dictate only how the game is played, and when you start involving roster moves I think it is covered by the CBA and has to be approved by the players and by management. I highly doubt either side would go for that. And even if there is a legitimate injury that requires a player to be removed it may not be something that would require DL time.

[Mr. Brooks]

Ok, so maybe they can't force them to DL, the rule could be they are ineligible to pitch for 3 days, and its up to the team and player whether to DL as well or not.

[spinowner]

 

Ok, so maybe they can't force them to DL, the rule could be they are ineligible to pitch for 3 days, and its up to the team and player whether to DL as well or not.

That's still a roster move, the equivalent of a suspension. But we're discussing a technicality here. I don't like the rule in the first place because I don't think strategy should be restricted any further.

[Mr. Brooks]

That's still a roster move, the equivalent of a suspension. But we're discussing a technicality here. I don't like the rule in the first place because I don't think strategy should be restricted any further.

No, not a roster move, the player would remain on the 25 man.

Not equivalent to a suspension, player still gets paid and receives service time.