Article: The Brian Dozier Trade That Almost Was

[prouster]

Where are you getting this? Did you read the OP I responded to?

 

That post said you play for the current season. I disagree that's the only way to build a winning team. Houston certainly didn't didn't play for the current season in 11'-13'.

 

Idc how each individual piece was acquired. That was never the point of the post...

If Houston is the model you want to use, then ... what? Do you see why some readers may have trouble figuring out the coherence of what you're trying to say?

 

This will be my last post responding to you. I have no more interest in debating a non-move that's almost a year old and, even without the benefit of hindsight, was clearly the proper one. Now the discussion is going every which way to no apparent end.

Edited November 3, 2017 by prouster

[Major League Ready]

 

If it results in a WS ring, yes I'm more than ok with it.
Winning a championship is the ONLY thing that defines success, IMO.
There isn't much difference between 2nd place and 30th place to me, they both finished the season losers.
I get many disagree, that's fine.

 

Is the man/woman who finished second in his/her class at Harvard making five million dollars a year a loser because someone finished higher than him/her or because there are athletes that make 5X that amount.  Sorry, I don’t find the “everyone who did not finish 1st is a loser” to be very enlightened.  How does one look at their own life with this type of outlook and not be disappointed?

 

The Championship or bust philosophy is one that is certain to bring disappointment nearly every year.  I refuse to approach something that is supposed to be entertaining that way.  I would much prefer to have a very good product to watch most years than to have 20 years of futility followed by one world series win and back to mediocrity or worse.

 

Everyone is welcome to their own viewpoint.  I just prefer to appreciate great teams or anything else great even if they are not the very best.

Edited November 3, 2017 by Major Leauge Ready

[BrianTrottier]

 

I guess I'm not as enamored with idea of one more year of Dozier or having to pay significant money to extend him. 

 

Not more enamored with another year of Dozier than what? Having a perennially injured AAA pitcher? That's more enamoring to you? Because from all of the reports and "insider" accounts we heard, that was the alternative to Dozier. You may wish otherwise, but from what we know, that's what the offer was.

[BrianTrottier]

 

Almost all of their top end pitching prospects have dealt with injury; especially last season. That is part of the deal with pitching. You must be very concerned given the injury history of the youth and the look of the  current group...

 

Well yeah, I am concerned about a lot of their young bullpen arms. I guess I was trying to point out that your  Chargois' future in the bullpen in comes off as a disingenuous justification of a Dozier-JDL trade that clearly would not have been in the Twins' favor.

[TheBoofIsLoose]

 

Is the man/woman who finished second in his/her class at Harvard making five million dollars a year a loser because someone finished higher than him/her or because there are athletes that make 5X that amount.  Sorry, I don’t find the “everyone who did not finish 1st is a loser” to be very enlightened.  How does one look at their own life with this type of outlook and not be disappointed?

 

The Championship or bust philosophy is one that is certain to bring disappointment nearly every year.  I refuse to approach something that is supposed to be entertaining that way.  I would much prefer to have a very good product to watch most years than to have 20 years of futility followed by one world series win and back to mediocrity or worse.

 

Everyone is welcome to their own viewpoint.  I just prefer to appreciate great teams or anything else great even if they are not the very best.

Unfortunately, the nature of sports where the ultimate goal is to win a championship brings disappointment more often than not. I love those '00s teams, but it's not too much of a stretch to call those seasons failures after only winning one playoff series. Sure, we had great moments and memories that we still appreciate, but they failed to accomplish their one main task.

 

[ashbury]

Mod note: seeing that not much new is being posted by this point in time, regarding the pros and cons of the original thread topic, I am closing it. The exchanges were getting overly personal and testy.

 

Anyone feeling shortchanged on the lack of additional opportunity for discussion, feel free to PM me for additional insights.