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True, it just doesn't happen often.  After the 10th round last year, only two players got over a 1M,  Both prep players, Brewers at 324 with Chad McClanahan (1.2M) and the Mets at 340 with Cameron Planck (1M and 1 dollar).

 

Twins did give Tyler Benninghoff 600K last year in the 11th round.

 

how is Tyler doing? I can't recall his name much this year.

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Mr. Patient
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Ah, but look -- he's not proud to be a part of the Twins organization, he's proud to be 'apart' from it. It was all a ruse. Falvine fails us again!

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That's exactly why I lurk this site more than I post. TD has made more educated and tempered about a sport I'm truly interested in, while helping me avoid work.

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This cup of Twins coffee just needs a little bit of Sweet Enlow.

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Have to think most the remaining top 100 are likely unsignable at this point.

 

Which is clearly in the Twins favor as long as not ALL top 100 are unsignable. 18 hours to cut deals AND the first pick, the Twins should be able to reel in their choice of the fence straddlers if they still have excess bonus money.

This is exactly what the Astros did in 2012 to get Ruiz, we will probably do the same

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I don't think people realize that when MLB cut the slot for number 1, and went to a total pool for 10 rounds with penalties for over spending, they, in effect, made it harder to sign the best player at 1:1, who now goes and looks and sees that the offer from the team that took him 1:1 is less than last year's number one pick.

 

MLB can put a slot value for 1:1 but the best players will want above that, and will get it, thus setting up a cascading decline of dollars for that team in the rest of rounds 1 -10.

 

It's kind of like teams will now have to weigh giving a superstar prospect a big payday and torpedoing the rest of their draft, or pass on the superstar and go for spreading the risk across more players.

 

Twins obviously did the latter.  Over time, MLB expects this will hold the line on explosive salaries, but it will also for sure, reduce the incentive to take BPA at the top of the draft.

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Barreiro had a great take on the Twins today (paraphrasing):

 

Certain people that are perceived as too stupid to "understand the draft" as some, is completely ridiculous.

 

The burden of proof on this team refusal to spend money is on the team. Not the fan. The fan has every right to question these moves. They said they'd write the check...so write the damn check. Until then, then sentiment that this team is making copper wire out of pennies won't go away.

 

Maybe that's not the motivation behind this draft. But, it'll always be the assumption until they prove otherwise, which they never do. That sentiment is not the fault of Thebes fan for being skeptical. All criticism has been rightly earned. Those that feel otherwise are the unreasonable ones.

 

Podcast it is you didn't hear it. Very eloquently put, and spot on. It's on the Twins to change this wide-spread (not wide-spread enough, IMO) paradigm (shout out to Bonnes for use of his favorite word, paradigm).

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This whole talk of picking Lewis to save money is nonsense because the new slotting system drastically reduces teams ability to 'save' money for later. He was obviously the guy they wanted. I've only seen a few clips but it's pretty hard to get excited about a guy who many think will end up in the OF and isn't universally considered a great hitter. I mean he hit under .400 in HS and knocked just 4 HR with metal bats. I get the CA competition is good but still. Jeter comps are nice and all, but there's probably a dozen guys each year fit that mold. To paraphrase another GM, if he's such a good hitter why doesn't he hit good? So he's going to hit when he plays for us?

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Put me down as disappointed they passed on Carlson. He seems like an advanced version of Leach, so why not take the local kid?

Something was up that we probably don't know about. Most likely something to do with his signability.

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Moderator's note: Look, the moderators have been clear all through the draft process, that it's a given we are all amateurs, and that real judgement of any draft isn't possible for a few years at least. And yet we are all entitled to discuss the proceedings, if done respectfully. Please don't attempt to squelch the opinions of others. Discuss the topic, not the qualifications of the other posters. (This is addressed to all posters, not specifically you.)

This is a great note. Please heed it.

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I have to say, as much as day one confused me, I really liked our day two draft. Enlow was a guy I thought we could take at 35 but might have been gone by then, so he's a first rounder in my head. I liked both the college pitcher picks even though neither profiles as an ace. I think de la Torre might surprise us but it's a good gamble pick and the juco third baseman also has some upside. And it seems like we've cleared enough space to nab at least one more well regarded HS prep arm (or Tristen Beck if we have more money than I thought) tomorrow.

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This whole talk of picking Lewis to save money is nonsense because the new slotting system drastically reduces teams ability to 'save' money for later. He was obviously the guy they wanted. I've only seen a few clips but it's pretty hard to get excited about a guy who many think will end up in the OF and isn't universally considered a great hitter. I mean he hit under .400 in HS and knocked just 4 HR with metal bats. I get the CA competition is good but still. Jeter comps are nice and all, but there's probably a dozen guys each year fit that mold. To paraphrase another GM, if he's such a good hitter why doesn't he hit good? So he's going to hit when he plays for us?

 

I think you're underestimating Lewis's talent. He's a legit 1-1 pick. KLAW, for example, likes him better than last year's first overall pick, Mickie Moniak. Callis called him a legitimate choice for first overall. He might not be "universally considered a great hitter," but basically everyone with a professional opinion says his hit tool is/could be anywhere from plus to plus-plus. Longenhagen gives it a 60 future value, for example, which would make him an allstar. His frame is still pretty lanky (he very recently turned 18), so it's easy to imagine him adding power as he gets older, as well. Not to mention that he'll likely play an up the middle position even if he moves off SS.

 

My personal hope was that they'd nab Gore or Greene 1-1 (in that order), but I think Lewis is a very good pick. It's not like he's some fringy first rounder. Most outlets have tagged him with a 55FV, which is the same as Gore, McKay, and Wright (the latter two are 60FV for some) depending on where you look.

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Like I know anything...but...after 2 days in the books...im feeling pretty good right now. (After questions and concerns last night).

 

I would have proffered Wright or Gore because, you know, PITCHING. But I just can't dislike the talent, potential and makeup of a kid like Lewis. Booker seems like a really nice bat, and possibly a fast riser, and possibly Mauer's sucessor. I hate to put a lot of pressure on the kid, but Leach could make or break this draft. Obviously the Twins like something about this big kid and see him as very projectable. Hope they are right.

 

Absolutely love the Enlow pick and it helps alleviate a lot of the angst after last night. Bechtold sounds like a legit 3B prospect with the glove and bat. Did we get a potential steal in SS De La Torre? A tall, projectable LHSP, a possible bullpen piece, an athletic OF and a couple senior SP that should be easy signs.

 

Not sure how it will all shake out, but feel much better today than I did last night. But I have to wonder, as others have mentioned, is there a HS arm sitting there to open the 11th round that is just waiting to be picked and signed with an over spot offer? And do we have the money to do so? That could really cap off the draft.

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Barreiro had a great take on the Twins today (paraphrasing):

Certain people that are perceived as too stupid to "understand the draft" as some, is completely ridiculous.

The burden of proof on this team refusal to spend money is on the team. Not the fan. The fan has every right to question these moves. They said they'd write the check...so write the damn check. Until then, then sentiment that this team is making copper wire out of pennies won't go away.

Maybe that's not the motivation behind this draft. But, it'll always be the assumption until they prove otherwise, which they never do. That sentiment is not the fault of Thebes fan for being skeptical. All criticism has been rightly earned. Those that feel otherwise are the unreasonable ones.

Podcast it is you didn't hear it. Very eloquently put, and spot on. It's on the Twins to change this wide-spread (not wide-spread enough, IMO) paradigm (shout out to Bonnes for use of his favorite word, paradigm).

 

To me this should be amended to 'winning' vs. 'spending money'.  The burden of proof is on MIN to show they know how to make and win in the playoffs consistently.  I don't much care how much or how little they spend to do it.  But I do know we(or at least I) need to give Falvey and company more than 9 months before i start holding them accountable for 10+ years of someone else mismanaging the team.  Every move SHOULD be under the microscope and open for analysis, but the conclusion doesn't always need to be 'Oh no here we go again'.  Sometimes a mistake is just a mistake, not part of some long lasting narrative.     

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How are they "out of money?"

 

Alll the talk about big moves didn't really come to fruition. I still think they tried to get cute, and got burned. With the exception of one pick.

 

Hey, at least they got a few college pitchers that struggle to touch 90. Should turn out well.

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To me this should be amended to 'winning' vs. 'spending money'. The burden of proof is on MIN to show they know how to make and win in the playoffs consistently. I don't much care how much or how little they spend to do it. But I do know we(or at least I) need to give Falvey and company more than 9 months before i start holding them accountable for 10+ years of someone else mismanaging the team. Every move SHOULD be under the microscope and open for analysis, but the conclusion doesn't always need to be 'Oh no here we go again'. Sometimes a mistake is just a mistake, not part of some long lasting narrative.

Believe what you will. There is a direct correlation between the teams that spend money, and World Series championships. When a "small market" team wins (ala Royals) it's an aberration.

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I'm not upset because they chose a different direction. They're the experts. But it would have been so damn exciting to see Hunter Greene and all his hype move up the ranks in the Twins system.

Exactly!  I know the team has picked pitchers in the first round before, but Greene has the raw stuff to be something spectacular.  A seventeen year old with a triple digit fastball.  His floor is lights out bullpen arm.  And if that didn't work out for whatever reason, they could have moved him back to the infield.

 

Cincy couldn't snatch him up fast enough.  They're probably pretty giddy with themselves in the Reds draft room right now.

 

I can't help but think we're all going to be watching this kid rise and regretting this decision for a long time.

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