June 8, 20179 yr Eric Nordquist is the current producer for Paul Allen's show on KFAN. This morning, Nordquist presented his Top 10 Current Twins rankings... It's an interesting list. Maybe even listen to the segment to see how he voted/ranked, and then give is some thought. What would your Top 10 Current Twins rankings look like?
June 8, 20179 yr Author My current rankings as of this moment: 1.) Miguel Sano2.) Ervin Santana3.) Brian Dozier4.) Max Kepler5.) Joe Mauer6.) Robbie Grossman7.) Jorge Polanco8.) Byron Buxton9.) Jose Berrios10.) Tyler Duffey What do you all think? Again, what would your rankings be?
June 8, 20179 yr I'd move Berrios to the #3 spot because his value is off the charts with our large need at the position. I can't imagine life without him right now. He is extremely vital to this club in 2017.
June 8, 20179 yr No love for the great framer, eh? I think I would have to put Castro in the top 10 instead of Berrios simply because Berrios has only been with the team for 4 weeks. If you are rewarding Buxton's defense with a top ten ranking, despite a negative offensive contribution (in terms of WAR), it seems only fair to reward Castro's defense and note that his offense has been quite a bit better than expected. I'd keep your top 7 and go Castro at 8, Buxton at 9 and Duffey at 10.
June 8, 20179 yr Can't disagree with the names on your list, Seth, regardless of individual rankings. But I agree Castro has been a fine addition and needs some love. I'm just not sure where'd I rank him or who I would remove to place him there. Mauer is interesting, and not because of the #4 ranking. Before the season began, and through April, I'm not sure he would have made hardly anyone's top 10. Edited June 8, 20179 yr by DocBauer
June 8, 20179 yr I agree with RB on Berrios. What a change! I'd put Buxton at #10. I'm still leery about his offense. With his defense, yeah, he gets a break. Hoping he turns the corner soon. A .5 WAR is below scrub-level.
June 8, 20179 yr What's the list? I made 3 minutes and I had to turn it off. I can't believe how bad that show/station has got in the last couple of years.
June 8, 20179 yr Mauer is interesting, and not because of the #4 ranking. Before the season began, and through April, I'm not sure he would have made hardly anyone's top 10.He's never left my top 5 Twins.
June 9, 20179 yr Ok, I will reply then read what everyone else said so that I am giving an opinion unbiased by TD. I will also not look at the roster or stats. Hmm... Sano (That one was easy...)SantanaDozierKeplerMauerBerriosBuxtonDuffeyKinzler Polanco Now to read what you all said and reassess my off the cuff list
June 9, 20179 yr Here is the fWAR ranking SanoKeplerGrossmanCastroMauerDozierSantanaPolancoBerriosDuffey/Buxton (tie.) And the bWAR ranking: SantanaSanoKeplerCastroGrossmanBerriosPolancoBuxtonDozierMauer and the B/P WARP ranking: SanoSantanaKeplerBerriosDuffeyMejiaGrossmanCastroDozierBuxton 10 for the first and so and so and 1 for the tenth. The consensus of all 3 will be: 1. Sano (29)2. Kepler (25)3. Santana (23)4. Grossman (18)5. Castro (17)6. Berrios (14)7. Dozier (9)8. Mauer (7)- Polanco (7)- Duffey (7) As close to a quasi-objective ranking as possible. Survey says that Grossman and Castro have been more valuable than people's gut feelings... Edited June 9, 20179 yr by Thrylos
June 9, 20179 yr Ok, I will reply then read what everyone else said so that I am giving an opinion unbiased by TD. I will also not look at the roster or stats. Hmm...Sano (That one was easy...)SantanaDozierKeplerMauerBerriosBuxtonDuffeyKinzler PolancoNow to read what you all said and reassess my off the cuff listDang it, I forgot about Grossman... I guess he goes between Berrios and Buxton. I believe Buxtons defense and the great need for Duffey and Kinzler are so important I move them up my list. I'm probably under rating Polanco still but I also had a hard time not putting Castro on the top 10 because of what he brings that does not include his bat...
June 9, 20179 yr Here is the fWAR ranking SanoKeplerGrossmanCastroMauerDozierSantanaPolancoBerriosDuffey/Buxton (tie.) And the bWAR ranking: SantanaSanoKeplerCastroGrossmanBerriosPolancoBuxtonDozierMauer and the B/P WARP ranking: SanoSantanaKeplerBerriosDuffeyMejiaGrossmanCastroDozierBuxton 10 for the first and so and so and 1 for the tenth. The consensus of all 3 will be: 1. Sano (29)2. Kepler (25)3. Santana (23)4. Grossman (18)5. Castro (17)6. Berrios (14)7. Dozier (9)8. Mauer (7)- Polanco (7)- Duffey (7) As close to a quasi-objective ranking as possible. Survey says that Grossman and Castro have been more valuable than people's gut feelings...And Kinzler is not on any of the lists. Does WAR in general rate relievers poorly or is this just the result of our RP corp?
June 9, 20179 yr And Kinzler is not on any of the lists. Does WAR in general rate relievers poorly or is this just the result of our RP corp? yes and yes. And Kinzler's BS hurt.
June 9, 20179 yr And Kinzler is not on any of the lists. Does WAR in general rate relievers poorly or is this just the result of our RP corp? They don't play very many innings.
June 9, 20179 yr Survey says that Grossman and Castro have been more valuable than people's gut feelings... Good call. And interesting analysis. Our pitching is not fixed by any stretch. But overall, it's been much better than last season...(yes, call me Captain Obvious)...and I think much better, overall, than expected. And I have to tell you, I'm a fan and believer in Vargas and his potential and want him to stick and play almost daily, I have become a believer and big fan of Grossman. I think we lucked in to a nice player there. I don't know if it is due to natural maturation or a change of scenery, but NICE.
June 9, 20179 yr 1) Sano2) Santana3) Dozier4) Berrios5) Mauer6) Kepler7) Grossman8) Duffey9) Buxton's glove10) Castro Edited June 9, 20179 yr by bighat
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