2016-2017 Vikings Offseason Thread

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 3/7/2017 at 5:08 PM, nicksaviking said:

The Chargers released DJ Fluker. He didn't exactly live up to his draft hype but he's no slouch and a better RG or RT than the team has now (which actually might be nothing). Just another possibility for the O Line, there are starting to be some options thankfully.

 

I just don't want the team to give out real money to a RB. Spend the money on the line and gamble on a low money/league minimum deal for a RB. There isn't a back out there that doesn't look like a crap shoot anyway. Might be a good idea to spend a little bit on another DB also.

 

ricky Wagner at RT, Fluker at RG, draft a C in round 2, sign a RB and DL in FA that aren't SUPER expensive. Win the off season.

 

Oh, and sign random older OT to play LT for not huge money. 

[nicksaviking]

I might be interested in Nick Mangold for a center or guard spot too. If memory serves he's been a pretty ornery kind of player and he sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder also. I usually like those guys on the O line.

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 3/7/2017 at 7:46 PM, nicksaviking said:

I might be interested in Nick Mangold for a center or guard spot too. If memory serves he's been a pretty ornery kind of player and he sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder also. I usually like those guys on the O line.

 

I think Sparano might have coached him at some point, for some reason that's in my head...

[nicksaviking]

 

  On 3/7/2017 at 7:54 PM, Mike Sixel said:

I think Sparano might have coached him at some point, for some reason that's in my head...

 

Wikipedia says he was the Jets OC for one season back in 2012. I didn't recall that.

[Mr. Brooks]

Vikings let Munnerlyn walk.

I hope they have a target to replace him. I didn't see much to like out of Alexander.

And, depth is an issue if Newman leaves/retires.

[nicksaviking]

I liked Munnerlyn, it's a shame. Vikings brought in ex Pakcers Lacy and Datone Jones in for looks. Frankly I'm tired of them doing this, let's not give that team more ammunition by letting them claim we take their hand-me-downs.

 

 

[Vanimal46]

 

  On 3/13/2017 at 4:59 PM, nicksaviking said:

I liked Munnerlyn, it's a shame. Vikings brought in ex Pakcers Lacy and Datone Jones in for looks. Frankly I'm tired of them doing this, let's not give that team more ammunition by letting them claim we take their hand-me-downs.

 

I agree, it's become a running bit every off-season that they bring in former Packers for visits. Though I would have gladly taken one of their hand-me-downs with TJ Lang... Too bad he's a Lion now. 

[SF Twins Fan]

I feel like the Vikings have made solid moves so far this offseason. Both OT's spots and LG are set. They could probably sign another interior lineman and DT for depth. Then for the draft, 8 picks, I'd go:

 

2 offensive lineman

1 running back

1 defensive lineman

1 safety

1 corner back

1 tight end

1 line backer

 

I wouldn't draft in the order specifically but I did list the positions in order of importance / need.

[Mike Sixel]

They lost Captain, they REALLY need a CB or two.

[nicksaviking]

Sounds like they are interested in Ladarius Webb. Not sure if he is strictly a safety now or if he can also play nickel. Either spot is OK for an upgrade in my book. As long as he is an upgrade.

[Vanimal46]

I've never heard of this guy before, but that's not saying much! 

Per Chris Tomasson of the Pioneer Press on Twitter:

"Source says #Vikings one of four teams in mix to sign free-agent DB Nickell Robey-Coleman. Could be slot replacement for Captain Munnerlyn."

 

He played in Buffalo last year, and FWIW, was ranked as PFF's #33 overall corner. 

[Mr. Brooks]

  On 3/13/2017 at 6:09 PM, SF Twins Fan said:

I feel like the Vikings have made solid moves so far this offseason. Both OT's spots and LG are set. They could probably sign another interior lineman and DT for depth. Then for the draft, 8 picks, I'd go:

 

2 offensive lineman

1 running back

1 defensive lineman

1 safety

1 corner back

1 tight end

1 line backer

 

I wouldn't draft in the order specifically but I did list the positions in order of importance / need.

Probably going to have to draft a punter as well.

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 3/13/2017 at 9:13 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

Probably going to have to draft a punter as well.

 

they have a punter on the roster, can't recall his name.

[Taildragger8791]

 

  On 3/13/2017 at 9:13 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

Probably going to have to draft a punter as well.

 

From what I recall our punter had a pretty good year, surprisingly. The kicker spot may be wide (left) open though.

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 3/13/2017 at 9:27 PM, Taildragger8791 said:

From what I recall our punter had a pretty good year, surprisingly. The kicker spot may be wide (left) open though.

 

Locke signed with Indy...and no, he was not good.

[Taildragger8791]

 

  On 3/13/2017 at 9:30 PM, Mike Sixel said:

Locke signed with Indy...and no, he was not good.

 

Huh, guess I missed that. Been too busy and too sick to follow the start of the offseason.

 

I know Locke sucked in previous years and started this year slow, but by midseason he was rating out well and had a some great kicks to flip field position that played a big role in the outcome of the game. It seemed he had turned a corner.

[Vanimal46]

 

  On 3/13/2017 at 9:34 PM, Taildragger8791 said:

Huh, guess I missed that. Been too busy and too sick to follow the start of the offseason.

 

I know Locke sucked in previous years and started this year slow, but by midseason he was rating out well and had a some great kicks to flip field position that played a big role in the outcome of the game. It seemed he had turned a corner.

 

He did.... Then turned back into the sucky version for the last 5-6 games. Don't remember the exact game, but I think it was at home in the dome, and he had 3 punts in a row of less than 20 yards. 

[SF Twins Fan]

 

  On 3/13/2017 at 9:13 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

Probably going to have to draft a punter as well.

 

I completely forgot we need a punter as well. Maybe we sign another CB or DT in free agency and then don't draft one in April.

[Vanimal46]

Annnnnnd Cordarrelle is gone. Signs with the Raiders. Add WR back to the list. 

[wavedog]

We are pretty thin at WR - Diggs and Thielen, Treadwell who did nothing last year and Wright who was in the doghouse.  Unless Boehringer comes out of nowhere.  Glad we traded those 4 picks to move up to get Cordarrelle only to let him walk.  He openly tweeted he hoped to come back to Minnesota so I guess we really did not want him.   

[Mike Sixel]

Too bad, I think he'll be good once a team actually decides to use him. 

[nicksaviking]

My random Vikings thoughts of the day:

 

I wonder how much Patterson got. WR or not, he was really good in the return game.

 

The last CB the Vikings got from Buffalo worked out quite well, so I hope they snag this new guy.

 

I hope the team doesn't blow a pick on a punter again, there will be usable free agents available later.

 

Losing Patterson and having so many other needs in the draft, I'm betting that the team will end up signing some vet receiver on the cheap. He'll probably be on his last legs but the local media will write stories about the leadership he brings to the young receiving corp.

 

My confidence in Spielman is at an all time low. I'm really struggling to connect the dots on this off season's game plan, it kind of looks like they're just winging it from here. Though admittedly my view is from the sideline.

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 3/14/2017 at 3:01 PM, nicksaviking said:

My random Vikings thoughts of the day:

 

I wonder how much Patterson got. WR or not, he was really good in the return game.

 

The last CB the Vikings got from Buffalo worked out quite well, so I hope they snag this new guy.

 

I hope the team doesn't blow a pick on a punter again, there will be usable free agents available later.

 

Losing Patterson and having so many other needs in the draft, I'm betting that the team will end up signing some vet receiver on the cheap. He'll probably be on his last legs but the local media will write stories about the leadership he brings to the young receiving corp.

 

My confidence in Spielman is at an all time low. I'm really struggling to connect the dots on this off season's game plan, it kind of looks like they're just winging it from here. Though admittedly my view is from the sideline.

 

Still waiting for some playoff wins...so far, Spielman and Zimmer have given us nothing.

[Vanimal46]

I don't see Patterson getting a lot of touches in Oakland, TBH.. They have Cooper and Crabtree already getting a lion's share of targets. It's possible that they're thinking he could be a hybrid RB/WR/KR for them. 

 

The Vikes certainly need a replacement for Captain.... Alexander has a long ways to go in order to be a serviceable CB in this league. He looked completely lost in the limited time he's played so far. 

 

My confidence in Spielman is also at an all-time low right now. They had a lot of work to do this off-season rebuilding the OL, and now they're creating more needs on the list. I hope they're not relying on their draft picks from last year stepping into key roles this season. That was one of the worst draft classes in a long time for this team. 

[Mike Sixel]

This guy is the punter:

 

Taylor Symmank

[Vanimal46]

Man, that list of remaining WRs does absolutely nothing for me. I guess we have to hope Treadwell gets better. 

[nicksaviking]

 

  On 3/14/2017 at 3:55 PM, Vanimal46 said:

Man, that list of remaining WRs does absolutely nothing for me. I guess we have to hope Treadwell gets better. 

 

I agree, I still think the Vikings sign one though. For no other reason than the fact that it just seems like a Vikings move, I'll predict Stevie Johnson.

 

I kind of like Kamar Aiken but he's a possession/slot guy which is probably the same role that Diggs, Thelan and Wright should all be playing.

 

If I were to get a guy, I'd take a shot at Brian Quick.

[Mike Sixel]

I would much rather they sign a LB and CB, and draft a WR (assuming they keep Thielen).

[TheLeviathan]

  On 3/14/2017 at 3:16 PM, Vanimal46 said:

I don't see Patterson getting a lot of touches in Oakland, TBH.. They have Cooper and Crabtree already getting a lion's share of targets. It's possible that they're thinking he could be a hybrid RB/WR/KR for them. 

 

The Vikes certainly need a replacement for Captain.... Alexander has a long ways to go in order to be a serviceable CB in this league. He looked completely lost in the limited time he's played so far. 

 

My confidence in Spielman is also at an all-time low right now. They had a lot of work to do this off-season rebuilding the OL, and now they're creating more needs on the list. I hope they're not relying on their draft picks from last year stepping into key roles this season. That was one of the worst draft classes in a long time for this team.

 

  On 3/14/2017 at 3:16 PM, Vanimal46 said:

I don't see Patterson getting a lot of touches in Oakland, TBH.. They have Cooper and Crabtree already getting a lion's share of targets. It's possible that they're thinking he could be a hybrid RB/WR/KR for them. 

 

The Vikes certainly need a replacement for Captain.... Alexander has a long ways to go in order to be a serviceable CB in this league. He looked completely lost in the limited time he's played so far. 

 

My confidence in Spielman is also at an all-time low right now. They had a lot of work to do this off-season rebuilding the OL, and now they're creating more needs on the list. I hope they're not relying on their draft picks from last year stepping into key roles this season. That was one of the worst draft classes in a long time for this team.

 

I wouldn't write off that class yet. Too early.

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 3/14/2017 at 7:15 PM, TheLeviathan said:

I wouldn't write off that class yet. Too early.

 

EVERY playoff team had 1 or more starter from last year's class. Treadwell caught 1 pass. Alexander embarrassed himself. Beavers was rated one of the worst over reaches by two sites last year, and didn't play *much* despite a historically bad OL.

 

Why should I feel good about it?