POTUS Donald Trump

[ashbury]

I can’t shake the feeling this is all a sham...

What's the tell? Besides that lips are moving, I mean.

[TheLeviathan]

I can’t shake the feeling this is all a sham...that he and Sessions are creating the illusion of discord to give Sessions cover when he performs some act down the road that absolves Trump of his crimes.

“I don’t even like the President, but the constitution mandates I dismiss these charges.”

Who am I to argue with well reasoned cynicism about politics?

[Badsmerf]

Who am I to argue with well reasoned cynicism about politics?

I don't think sessions would be willing to undergo that much public ridicule. I mean, if Trump went up to him and was like, hey, I'm gong to say a bunch of terrible **** about you every single day, but in real life we're secretly friends... Most people out of elementary school would think that is a terrible plan. I highly doubt a long term senator would agree to that type of agreement. I'd like to think sessions is a little racist and misogynist on his own, but I don't think submissive is descriptive of him. He loved Trump for the ability to enforce his slanted view on the nation, not to be a whipping boy like the gimp.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I don't think sessions would be willing to undergo that much public ridicule. I mean, if Trump went up to him and was like, hey, I'm gong to say a bunch of terrible **** about you every single day, but in real life we're secretly friends... Most people out of elementary school would think that is a terrible plan. I highly doubt a long term senator would agree to that type of agreement. I'd like to think sessions is a little racist and misogynist on his own, but I don't think submissive is descriptive of him. He loved Trump for the ability to enforce his slanted view on the nation, not to be a whipping boy like the gimp.

One of my biggest problems with the left today is that they're lumping everyone together as evil and the same.

 

I don't think Sessions is evil. I think he's a misguided man with good intentions. He's a Keebler Elf gone wrong.

 

He's not doing this in some elaborate plan to fool everyone. This is who he is.

 

As my dad once said: "conspiracies don't really exist because no one cares that much about you to lie so elaborately".

 

My dad is staunchly conservative and more than a little racist but the words ring true to this day. No one needs to craft a lie that large when they can easily trick a portion of the populace into pretty much anything if they proclaim it loudly enough.

[TheLeviathan]

Right, I don't believe there is some vast conspiracy.  I think Sessions is one of those people that want to accomplish things they believe in despite whatever obstacles Trump's buffoonery throws their way.  

 

He likely knows that public insults are the best thing Trump can do.  So he's absorbing them out of principle.  (And we should probably give him some credit for that)

[Badsmerf]

I give him more credit for his statement of independence. I didn't like Sessions to begin with, and I'm not changing my mind now. I'd cheer if he gets fired, because his view of law and justice is so far removed from mine.

 

I think it will be a lot more challenging to get a yes man through after the midterms, so sessions is here to stay.

[PseudoSABR]

Many of the republicans, including Sessions, saw Trump as a means to an end (SCOTUS, taxes).  Many still covet that end above all else, but those numbers are thinning, though not as much as any notion of humanity would demand.  These people are Machiavellian in the most literal sense; they will only bail ship once their goal is put in question.  I think Session realized that sooner than many GOPers (it only came so soon because of his proximity to the orange spreading death); his ambitions weren't augmented by Trump, but rather put at risk.  Sessions is clearly beholden to the echoes of racism and white power, but he's also made a career on law and order, and the notion of impeccable personhood; he was willing to lie about Russia (and his contacts with) right up until the point he was caught--his worldview, and any hopes of acting upon it, did not allow him to continue such a lie after being caught. (He is just like the anonymous Op-ed writer, and many others, whom have not quite. They do not relinquish power, though they admit their hold on it is immoral)

[Squirrel]

I don't think sessions would be willing to undergo that much public ridicule. I mean, if Trump went up to him and was like, hey, I'm gong to say a bunch of terrible **** about you every single day, but in real life we're secretly friends... Most people out of elementary school would think that is a terrible plan. I highly doubt a long term senator would agree to that type of agreement. I'd like to think sessions is a little racist and misogynist on his own, but I don't think submissive is descriptive of him. He loved Trump for the ability to enforce his slanted view on the nation, not to be a whipping boy like the gimp.

You’d think. And you’d also think they wouldn’t be smart enough or bother enough to be that ... ‘clever’ with their deceptions ... but, the way things are going, I don’t put it past them, even if it’s not likely.

[ashbury]

Sessions is clearly beholden to the echoes of racism and white power, but he's also made a career on law and order

"But"? Don't you mean, "and"?

 

Law and order has always been one of the biggest dog whistles out there. Nixon exploited it to perfection, but he was hardly the first, nor the last.

[D. Hocking]

He still manages to surprise me from time to time.   

 

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BREAKING: President Trump says federal gov’t is "ready" for Hurricane Florence, and reflects on what he describes as "incredibly successful" response to Puerto Rico hurricane disasters in 2017 – “one of the best jobs that’s ever been done.”

 

 

[slash129]

And now .... He just caused a hurricane.

[PseudoSABR]

 

And now .... He just caused a hurricane.

He's always been a bit of blowhard, but now...

[Badsmerf]

He's not dropping it. Claiming now the number of people dead as a result of the storm is wrong. Doubling down on how great he did. Rick Scott even released a statement disagreeing with him publicly. The GOP is starting to walk away from him...

[Mr. Brooks]

He's not dropping it. Claiming now the number of people dead as a result of the storm is wrong. Doubling down on how great he did. Rick Scott even released a statement disagreeing with him publicly. The GOP is starting to walk away from him...

I disagree with your second part.

 

Rick Scott saying "I disagree", is gutless. Using the word disagree implies that it's an opinion, with no right or wrong answer.

You don't get to agree or disagree with facts.

[PseudoSABR]

 

He's not dropping it. Claiming now the number of people dead as a result of the storm is wrong. Doubling down on how great he did. Rick Scott even released a statement disagreeing with him publicly. The GOP is starting to walk away from him...

He's just so stupid.  What possible political advantage can he gain by denying the death numbers?  I mean, I think ignoring the deaths and declaring victory was a much better strategy, as unseemly as that was. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

He's just so stupid.  What possible political advantage can he gain by denying the death numbers?  I mean, I think ignoring the deaths and declaring victory was a much better strategy, as unseemly as that was. 

Because it's about Trump, not the actual situation at hand.

 

It's always about Trump.

[D. Hocking]

It is always about him and he cannot ever admit he made a mistake no matter what the size.  He could not even admit coveffte was a typo.  There have been a number of instances where things that reflect him in a negative fashion would go away relatively quickly, but he doubles down and cannot shut up about something because he thinks if he keeps repeating his often false statement it will eventually become true.

[Mr. Brooks]

Because it's about Trump, not the actual situation at hand.

 

It's always about Trump.

Yeah. I saw an article earlier, HuffPo, I think.

One of the architects from Trump tower was telling a story of Trump melting down and throwing a fit because federal law required braille on the elevator controls, and dammit Trump didn't want ugly bumps in his elavators.

[D. Hocking]

 

Trump didn't want ugly bumps in his elevators.

 

I am assuming that meant Trump himself had to get off the elevator.

[ashbury]

I am assuming that meant Trump himself had to get off the elevator.

[Bark's Lounge]

I haven't chimed in for a while, but I thought I would put in my two cents. I always knew that Trump was unfit for office and he would be a disaster... blah, blah, blah... I think most of us knew that from the start.

 

I have known a lot of insecure men who want to play the tough guy or strong man and they were douche bags, liars and were eventually ostracized by the group they associated with. But I have never seen anything that comes close to this level of depravity.

 

I have hated this man since I became aware of who he was 30 years ago. He is a bad person, he has no depth, he has no compassion... he is the most prolific liar I have ever seen.

 

I have severe Trump fatigue. I hope this guy and his cronies go away sooner than later. The Circus is supposed to be fun. Not this one.

[PseudoSABR]

I'm pretty surprised that the Manafort plea deal includes his cooperation.  I wonder if Manafort has any dirt on Pence, as the campaign was under Manafort's direction, when Trump picked Pence as VP.

[Badsmerf]

Most likely not a good sign for Trump.

 

I would love if they named the next D hurricane, hurricane Donald. Then, spend the next week talking how it is the least powerful hurricane they've ever seen, and that it barely qualifies as a hurricane. My mission for the next 2 weeks is to advocate for a wimpy hurricane Donald.

[USAFChief]

 

He's not dropping it. Claiming now the number of people dead as a result of the storm is wrong. Doubling down on how great he did. Rick Scott even released a statement disagreeing with him publicly. The GOP is starting to walk away from him...

I don't think the GOP is starting to walk away from him.

 

Rick Scott is walking back one specific statement by Trump, because the Puerto Rican (and Latino) vote is significant in Florida.

[LaBombo]

 

I'm pretty surprised that the Manafort plea deal includes his cooperation.  I wonder if Manafort has any dirt on Pence, as the campaign was under Manafort's direction, when Trump picked Pence as VP.

 

Maybe you're assuming this is obvious and if so, my apologies, but I'll throw it out there...

 

Without getting into the odds of there actually being dirt, let's assume that there is, and Manafort has either been holding on to something juicy about Pence as a bargaining chip, or at least intimates that he has something.

 

Then my question would be this: is there a bigger potential headache for Democrats in front of the midterms than even the appearance that they might believe that Pence's vice-presidency may be vulnerable? 

[TheLeviathan]

 

I don't think the GOP is starting to walk away from him.

 

Rick Scott is walking back one specific statement by Trump, because the Puerto Rican (and Latino) vote is significant in Florida.

 

There was a segment on Outnumbered I saw yesterday that had all the Fox hosts decrying the President's comments.  Some pretty far-right, never give an inch types that were very forward about their dislike for those comments.

 

I'm not sure it's walking away from him either, I certainly don't see that in the way Republican candidates are running right now.

[Squirrel]

 

I don't think the GOP is starting to walk away from him.

 

Rick Scott is walking back one specific statement by Trump, because the Puerto Rican (and Latino) vote is significant in Florida.

I agree. If they were walking away from him, they'd call for impeachment. While they might dislike him and they might counter some of his rhetoric, it's all a means to an end for them. Otherwise they would have walked away long ago.

[LaBombo]

 

I agree. If they were walking away from him, they'd call for impeachment. While they might dislike him and they might counter some of his rhetoric, it's all a means to an end for them. Otherwise they would have walked away long ago.

 

For Republicans looking to distance themselves from Trump, there's probably a fair amount of middle ground available to them between disowning his Twitter belches and hauling him out of office.

 

Not closing ranks to support a marginal nominee, letting some of his favorite legislation languish in committee, even widespread mutiny on a policy issue or two... they all fall well short of even just acknowledging the legitimacy of a case for impeachment, yet also send a much stronger message than kicking a little more sand on a tweet that's already been drawn and quartered in the media.

[jimmer]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-plot-to-subvert-an-election-unraveling-the-russia-story-so-far/ar-AAAo3i3

 

[D. Hocking]

Just when I did not think I could loathe him more.  If I did not know any better, I would say this is how a sexual predator would respond to this situation.

 

@realDonaldTrump

I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn  date, time, and place!