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Yeah, I've kind of lost hope on him too, as being any kind of impact player on a contending team. Players need to be judged in two main ways: 1) what's his ceiling, and 2) how often does he reach that ceiling. There are a lot of ways the latter question can be answered disappointingly, without it reflecting on the player's character. But, if you never know if you're going to see the Good Kyle or the Bad Kyle on the mound for you, well, maybe a .500 pitcher is an improvement when you are trying to avoid a 100-loss season, but not an asset when you are ready to shoot for 100 wins. I'm sure Kyle understands all this, but for whatever reason, he can't find the week-to-week consistency that is required.

I think the 2nd half is big for Gibson.  I still view him as a solid #3 starter and a #2 type when he is on.  His first half was injury plagued and inconsistent.  I still view him as a long-term piece to the rotation.

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I see E. Santana and Dozier as the biggest trade chips. We'll see what the Twins can get for them. Although... something tells me Dozier won't be traded. He and Mauer are the two remaining veterans among the position players, and the Twins need his leadership. I kind of hope either Escobar or Nunez gets traded for some prospects, and then they'll bring up Polanco.

 

If E. Santana is traded then Berrios should be called up. I would not be surprised, however, if Gibson was traded. 

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After his first 3 relief apperances here were the numbers on Carlos Rodon:

 

6 IP, 2 ER, 4 BB, 8k.

 

He was moved to the rotation.

 

Start 1: 6 IP, 2 ER, 4 BB, 8k

 

Start 2: 4 IP, 5 ER, 6 BB, and 5 k

 

Start 3: 6 IP, 1 ER, 5 BB, 4 K.

 

Total 22 IP, 4.09 ERA, 19 BB, and 25 k. He proceeded to stay up and pitch 139 innings that year.

 

Berrios through his 15 IP had a higher ERA at 10.2 driven by his last 7 ER start, but his k rate was better (20k in 15 IP) and his BB rate was lower (12 BB in 15 IP). Back to the farm kid.

Really fascinating stats Tobi. Good stuff. You are very brilliant.

 

I also noticed today that Carson Fullmer is being called up by the White Sox. Did you know that he has basically the same innings and k numbers as Berrios, with a much higher ERA (4.76 to 2.59)? Except those are Fullmer's AA numbers compared to Berrios's AAA numbers.

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Really fascinating stats Tobi. Good stuff. You are very brilliant.

 

I also noticed today that Carson Fullmer is being called up by the White Sox. Did you know that he has basically the same innings and k numbers as Berrios, with a much higher ERA (4.76 to 2.59)?

Wow. I didn't see that. Thank you as well for the post. Great insight. You are also brilliant.

 

Cheers.

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