July 3, 201610 yr Here's my lineup. 2B Jorge Polanco SS Eduardo Nunez 1B Joe Mauer3B Miguel SanoRF Max KeplerLF Eddie RosarioDH Bo-hung park (Palka could push here)C Juan CentenoCF Byron Buxton So in this situation I got rid of Dozier and Plouffe and kept Nunez. I think this lineup could afford to get rid of Nunez. I think pitching is going to be this teams Achilles heal so I won't even go there. Thoughts?
July 3, 201610 yr Too early to tell. But Centeno? Really? How about Murphy? And flip Nunez and Polanco, trade Nunez and find a second baseman (Beresford.) Really, this should be the Twins' 2016 lineup
July 3, 201610 yr 2B Jorge PolancoSS Eduardo Escobar1B Joe Mauer3B Miguel SanoRF Max KeplerLF Eddie RosarioDH Byung-ho park (possibly Vargas)C Wilson RamosCF FA BN = Vargas, Murphy, Nunez, Grossman, Beresford. This is not a batting order. Might scrap Beresford for a 4 man bench depending on staff. Go big or go home in FA on C (and yes, I know I'm dreaming on Ramos, that's what I would do though as there's not really a ton of help in the minors. Garver might be ready at some point, but he's far from a sure thing).
July 4, 201610 yr Brian Dozier 2bBrock Holt lfJoe Mauer 1bTrevor Plouffe 3bPark dhKhalil Greene sschris denorfia rfJose Lobaton cPeter Bourjos cf Rotation:James Shields, Hughes, Nolasco, Gibson, Duffey,Bullpen:Presley, Kintzler, Abad, Jason Frasor, Will Smith, drew Storen, Bob Wickman, Mike Lincoln Trades: Sano for Holt, Buxton for Denorfia, Berrios for Lobaton, Rosario for Shields sincerely,Terry Ryan Edited July 4, 201610 yr by notoriousgod71
July 4, 201610 yr 1. Byron Buxton CF2. Jorge Polanco 2B3. Joe Mauer 1B4. Miguel Sano 3B5. Max Kepler RF6. Byung Ho Park DH7. Eddie Rosario LF8. John Ryan Murphy C9. Eduardo Escobar SS I think Dozier's an off-season trade candidate and I'm holding out that Buxton has a solid second half. I don't think the Twins need to look FA position players really. Maybe a utility infielder if Nuñez and Dozier are traded before opening day. The main problems with the lineup this year had to with the effects of Sano playing out of position and too many guys taking bad at-bats. Hopefully with a lot of the season left to play, the young guys can get some experience. Besides, our win-loss record has a lot to do with having literally the worst pitching staff in the league.
July 4, 201610 yr After they go 60-21 the second half win the Wild Card game and have a good showing in the playoffs I don't see much changing from the current lineup.
July 4, 201610 yr I see the Twins keeping Dozier, unless someone REALLY comes up lame for a second baseman next spring training. I would like to see basically the leftside changed with Plouffe, Escobar AND Nunez all departing, and seeing if Polanco CAN play shortstop, with the reserves being Santana and possibly Beresford or Tovar or someone else. Outfield of Rosario, Buxton, Kepler with Grossman in reserve and Walker on standby. I would like to see Vargas get some playing time, maybe a couple of weeks this season before you bring back Park. Just to see. Catching is a mess. I was surprised the Twins didn't take a flyer on Fryer when he became available again, and send down Centeno and hope that Murphy will come around. We all want to see Berrios up here, and would love to see Wheeler as the next in-line for the rotation, since it appears May is doomed for the bullpen or future development as a closer. Of course, we still have Meyer in the wings.
July 4, 201610 yr Not a batting order, just as I see the roster as of now: LF BerriosCF BuxtonRF KeplerOF Grossman 3B SanoSS Escobar2B Dozier1B MauerDH ParkUTILITY Nunez, Polanco, Santana C Murphy & Centeno I'm still betting on Park improving and sticking at DH. Beresford and Vargas are on the outside looking in for the moment. The team will look at trades, waiver wire, FA for a 3rd catcher option. My roster has 14 position players. This allows for a single injury, and a possible trade of Nunez or Dozier (possibly Polanco). DH could also be a rotating position if Park or Vargas doesn't take hold of the opportunity. ROTATION: SantanaGibsonDuffeyBerriosMay Wheeler, Dean and Meyer are your reserve options. If Santana should be traded for any kind of decent return, as I talked about in another thread, you have a hole that may be filled by a veteran FA to be signed, possibly on a 1 year make good deal. BULLPEN: TonkinPresslyChargois Rogers This is your start. The pen is just too fluid right now to call. Abad and Boshers could be LH candidates. I'm thinking right now Kinzler may be back on the cheap. I'd really like to see a quality FA signing here to remove some pressure from the younger members and bring some stability. I'm thinking, at least to begin 2017, that youngsters like Melotakis, Burdi and others just aren't ready yet.
July 4, 201610 yr 1. Byron Buxton CF2. Max Kepler RF3. Joe Mauer 1B4. Miguel Sano 3B5. Carlos Gomez LF (Not sure he would want to come back but I would try.)6. Byung Ho Park DH (If he comes back late in the year and produces, I think he will.)7. Wilson Ramos C8. Eduardo Escobar SS9. Jorge Polanco 2B I'm obviously not a believer in Rosario. He will not succeed with his current K/BB rate. I would love to be wrong. We would overpay to bring back Ramos and Gomez, but guess what, the Twins can afford to. If Gomez continues to struggle this year he will probably sign a one year deal and try to bounce back. Worth a gamble. I'd trade Dozier at the deadline or in the off-season. Edited July 4, 201610 yr by raindog
July 4, 201610 yr Don't understand the big push to dump Dozier. Yeah, he started horribly, but at this point, his average, etc are on career high paths and his contract is manageable. CF Buxton1b Mauer2b Dozier3b SanoRF KeplerDH. Park/Vargas/PalkaLF RosarioSS.EscobarC Murphy SP GibsonBerriosDuffey??? Closer. May I would be interested to see if we could upgrade the SS position. Texas has Andrus and Odor, with no place for Profar to play, there was even talk of sending him to AAA. Starters, May should either be the closer or a starter
July 4, 201610 yr Don't understand the big push to dump Dozier. My reasoning is that he has good trade value and is 29 years old. I honestly think the Twins are 3+ years from being actual playoff contenders so I'd rather go younger.
July 4, 201610 yr Don't understand the big push to dump Dozier. Yeah, he started horribly, but at this point, his average, etc are on career high paths and his contract is manageable. It's not a push to "dump" Dozier. It's a push to trade him for something of value. The Twins have a legitimate second base prospect in Jorge Polanco. If you can get a good return for Dozier, then this team should do it. All rebuilds -- and this is still a rebuild -- include a trade of a quality player. The Twins have not done so yet. You could keep Dozier if the return isn't great. But frankly, if this team can't get a good return on an all-star second baseman with pop who can run the bases, fields well and is on a team friendly contract, then I totally give up. But it's not a "dump."
July 4, 201610 yr Not a batting order, just as I see the roster as of now:LF BerriosCF BuxtonRF KeplerOF Grossman3B SanoSS Escobar2B Dozier1B MauerDH ParkUTILITY Nunez, Polanco, SantanaC Murphy & CentenoI'm still betting on Park improving and sticking at DH. Beresford and Vargas are on the outside looking in for the moment. The team will look at trades, waiver wire, FA for a 3rd catcher option.My roster has 14 position players. This allows for a single injury, and a possible trade of Nunez or Dozier (possibly Polanco). DH could also be a rotating position if Park or Vargas doesn't take hold of the opportunity.ROTATION:SantanaGibsonDuffeyBerriosMayWheeler, Dean and Meyer are your reserve options. If Santana should be traded for any kind of decent return, as I talked about in another thread, you have a hole that may be filled by a veteran FA to be signed, possibly on a 1 year make good deal.BULLPEN:TonkinPresslyChargoisRogersThis is your start. The pen is just too fluid right now to call. Abad and Boshers could be LH candidates. I'm thinking right now Kinzler may be back on the cheap. I'd really like to see a quality FA signing here to remove some pressure from the younger members and bring some stability. I'm thinking, at least to begin 2017, that youngsters like Melotakis, Burdi and others just aren't ready yet.I've read all the proposals and your's is the most realistic. Polanco as a utility player to see what he can really do. I'm not all that sure about Pressly: his windup looks more like a starter than relievers. Then there's that Berrios guy in left field. He seems out of position there
July 4, 201610 yr Not a batting order, just as I see the roster as of now:LF BerriosCF BuxtonRF KeplerOF Grossman3B SanoSS Escobar2B Dozier1B MauerDH ParkUTILITY Nunez, Polanco, SantanaC Murphy & CentenoI'm still betting on Park improving and sticking at DH. Beresford and Vargas are on the outside looking in for the moment. The team will look at trades, waiver wire, FA for a 3rd catcher option.My roster has 14 position players. This allows for a single injury, and a possible trade of Nunez or Dozier (possibly Polanco). DH could also be a rotating position if Park or Vargas doesn't take hold of the opportunity.ROTATION:SantanaGibsonDuffeyBerriosMayWheeler, Dean and Meyer are your reserve options. If Santana should be traded for any kind of decent return, as I talked about in another thread, you have a hole that may be filled by a veteran FA to be signed, possibly on a 1 year make good deal.BULLPEN:TonkinPresslyChargoisRogersThis is your start. The pen is just too fluid right now to call. Abad and Boshers could be LH candidates. I'm thinking right now Kinzler may be back on the cheap. I'd really like to see a quality FA signing here to remove some pressure from the younger members and bring some stability. I'm thinking, at least to begin 2017, that youngsters like Melotakis, Burdi and others just aren't ready yet. Can Berrios play LF and pitch??
July 4, 201610 yr You and I are probably the only one's that get this Oh I am sure more than just the two of you get it
July 4, 201610 yr I've read all the proposals and your's is the most realistic. Polanco as a utility player to see what he can really do. I'm not all that sure about Pressly: his windup looks more like a starter than relievers. Then there's that Berrios guy in left field. He seems out of position there LOL! Of course I meant Rosario. I don't know if that was me or my auto correct. ☺
July 5, 201610 yr Outfield:LF - Veteran FA (Targets: Carlos Gomez, Angel Pagan, Peter Bourjos) CF- BuxtonRF - Kepler Infield: C - Veteran FA (Targets: Wilson Ramos, Geo Soto)1B - Mauer2B - PolancoSS - Escobar3B - Sano DH - Park Bench:OF RosarioOF GrossmanIF NunezC MurphyPitching: BerriosGibson Duffey ??Closer: Chargois or Burdi
July 5, 201610 yr Really? - the first few posters all have Mauer in the 3 hole for next year...really?
July 5, 201610 yr Really? - the first few posters all have Mauer in the 3 hole for next year...really?1. 1B - Mauer2. 2B - Mauer3. SS - Mauer4. 3B - Mauer5. LF - Mauer6. CF - Mauer7. RF - Mauer8. DH - Mauer9. C - Murphy
July 5, 201610 yr 1. 1B - Mauer2. 2B - Mauer3. SS - Mauer4. 3B - Mauer5. LF - Mauer6. CF - Mauer7. RF - Mauer8. DH - Mauer9. C - MurphyBrock I get it Mauer's been bludgeoned to death in every thread for 3 years, but '2017 lineups' is all we have to hang onto here, so can someone please imagine him hitting in the bottom 3rd?
July 5, 201610 yr Brock I get it Mauer's been bludgeoned to death in every thread for 3 years, but '2017 lineups' is all we have to hang onto here, so can someone please imagine him hitting in the bottom 3rd?I'm just playing (obviously) but you're right that Mauer isn't a three hitter anymore. But I'd still probably hit him second because his career low OBP (.338 in 2015) is still pretty good. It'd be nice if he was faster and didn't clog the bases but that OBP can still do some good near the top of the lineup. But not third. You want extra base power in the third spot.
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