Article: Twins Minor League Report (4/26): Berrios, Walker, Palka, Gonsalves, More

[FormerMinnasotan]

Looks like Jason Wheeler got promoted to Rochester as he is pitching today. So now with at least 2 slots open in Chattanooga will those two spots be filled by Gonsalves and Stewart? Both have dominated so far this season and with their success last year I just can't see any need to see if both pitchers are ready. Seems both Gonsalves and Stewart really did improve themselves in the off season. Time to take their "friendly rivalry" to Chattanooga and let Tyler Jay and Felix Jorge anchor Ft Meyers rotation.

Edited April 27, 2016 by FormerMinnasotan

[jsteve96]

 

He's sitting on around 100 IPs at High A, a move to AA at this point wouldn't really be rushing him- really, he appears to be toying with the hitters at his current level- time to move up!

 

And the Twins really need a LH SP, if Gonsalves continues this type of success in the upper minors, why hold him back from a look-see promotion to the Twins by the middle of 2017?

Yeah i could easily see a portion by end of 2017. Im just saying don't rush him through AA or skip AAA because you need a LHP

[Mike Sixel]

 

Yeah i could easily see a portion by end of 2017. Im just saying don't rush him through AA or skip AAA because you need a LHP

 

so, don't do what the White Sox do, with their highly successful starting pitchers.

[jsteve96]

 

Its early but Vielma is hitting way better than I thought he would.

That couldn't be more encouraging!

In his last 76 games last year he had an average of .318 and a .725 OPS... he's been turning it around for close to a year. I think this his hitting is coming around.

[jsteve96]

 

so, don't do what the White Sox do, with their highly successful starting pitchers.

yea you could talk about them.. you could also talk about Buxton and Hicks being rushed skipping AAA. Also Quintana was 2 years older than gonsalves at this time, if he gets to AA here soon like we expect... Sale came up as a reliever out of college and Rodon College arm as well. It'd be like bringing Jay up right away, not Gonsalves

[bulldozier14]

 

Yeah, Andrelton Simmons has a career OPS of .660.

 

The lack of walks so far for Vielma appears to be anomalous, as his K% is just about the same as it has always been- giving him a current OPS of .667. I would think the Twins would be thrilled if he could match anywhere close to that number coupled with his very good glove in a utility role with the major league club.

 

Which brings me cause to reiterate, Seth... does Engelb have an arm problem/injury or a case of the yips that is causing his recent spate of errors?

 

Yeah, Andrelton Simmons has a career OPS of .660.

 

The lack of walks so far for Vielma appears to be anomalous, as his K% is just about the same as it has always been- giving him a current OPS of .667. I would think the Twins would be thrilled if he could match anywhere close to that number coupled with his very good glove in a utility role with the major league club.

 

Which brings me cause to reiterate, Seth... does Engelb have an arm problem/injury or a case of the yips that is causing his recent spate of errors?

Yeah my main point is that ideally a guys OPS would be more than basically double his average, no matter how limited he is as a hitter. I know he has had a decent walk rate in the minors in previous years, but his current average is not sustainable so hopefully he can get on base at a higher clip going forward. 

[ThejacKmp]

 

Is there a better reliever in the system than Chargois right now?  I know, SSS, but 1 ER, 1 walk, 10 K and a 0.57 WHIP is impressive.

 

I would have liked to have seen him get Meyer's cup of coffee so that Meyer could keep working as a starter and build some confidence.

[Mike Sixel]

 

yea you could talk about them.. you could also talk about Buxton and Hicks being rushed skipping AAA. Also Quintana was 2 years older than gonsalves at this time, if he gets to AA here soon like we expect... Sale came up as a reliever out of college and Rodon College arm as well. It'd be like bringing Jay up right away, not Gonsalves

 

All fair points.....my point is, if he's utterly dominating a level, he should move up.

 

Pitchers get hurt. A lot. The entire league is moving pitchers up faster and faster because:

 

young guys throw harder

pitchers get hurt the more pitches they throw

[jokin]

 

In his last 76 games last year he had an average of .318 and a .725 OPS... he's been turning it around for close to a year. I think this his hitting is coming around.

 

Yep, that's why he was on my picks to click for a call-up this year should his skills fill a necessary defensive void. I think all he needs to stick in the majors as a top notch utility guy is a respectable stick.

[jokin]

 

 

Yeah i could easily see a portion by end of 2017. Im just saying don't rush him through AA or skip AAA because you need a LHP

 

I'm with you on this interpretation, given that, I don't think we have to worry too much about TR rushing him prematurely, or even "maturely."

[Arak30s]

Why do prospects continually get opportunity year after year and never have to sit. We are told when they make errors they are growing pains. Non prospects make one mistake and are out of the game. Concern re Keppler having only 14 at bats while up in the majors... others sit waiting for an opportunity weeks on end. All these players have given multiple years to be given an opportunity, and I do not see many prospects excelling. Maybe it's about time they warm the benches...it might increase productivity.

 

[Mr. Brooks]

Why do prospects continually get opportunity year after year and never have to sit. We are told when they make errors they are growing pains. Non prospects make one mistake and are out of the game. Concern re Keppler having only 14 at bats while up in the majors... others sit waiting for an opportunity weeks on end. All these players have given multiple years to be given an opportunity, and I do not see many prospects excelling. Maybe it's about time they warm the benches...it might increase productivity.

Unless the mistakes are caused by a lack of effort then the only way to correct them is to get more experience.

The only way to get more experience is to play more baseball.

 

The reason legit prospects get more rope is because there is a potential upside to letting them play through those mistakes.

 

You also need filler guys because no organization has 25 legit prospects at every level.

Naturally those guys don't get as long of a leash because there is no payoff later to letting theme play through their mistakes.

Milb isn't about wins and losses it's about developing talent for the parent club.

There are Indy leagues if those clubs would rather focus on winning games. And, occasionally, but not often, you do see an affiliate decide not to renew with an MLB club for that reason.

[Arak30s]

Previous post Why do they start teaching positional play in MLB???? Why does Minnesota Twins prospects have difficulty performing at MLB level? Sale, Trout, Harper and Bryant seemed to have no difficulty stepping up. Does Minnesota take on too many players with the same attributes-power?

[Mr. Brooks]

Previous post Why do they start teaching positional play in MLB???? Why does Minnesota Twins prospects have difficulty performing at MLB level? Sale, Trout, Harper and Bryant seemed to have no difficulty stepping up. Does Minnesota take on too many players with the same attributes-power?

Most prospects struggle in their first taste.

Trout struggled mightily and had to be demoted, so I'm not sure why you are listing him.

 

Miguel Sano was one of the best power hitters in all of baseball last year, for the 90 games he was up.

And Rosario was a capable rookie too.

Even Danny Santana excelled his rookie season.

Most prospects struggle, some so okay, a few excel immediately. The Twins are no different than any other team in this regard.

 

Not having Sano play OF in the minors was a poor decision. I don't understand that one.