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Seth Stohs

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A contingent from the Minnesota Twins front office is currently at the GM Meetings in Florida. It is fair to say that they have been busy. On Tuesday, Chris Herrmann was sent to the Diamondbacks for Daniel Palka. On Wednesday, the Twins received catcher John Ryan Murphy from the Yankees in exchange for Aaron Hicks.

 

The offseason is just getting started, and the Twins will likely make a few more moves before spring training starts… in three months. With that in mind, I’m going to do a way-too-early roster projection. Normally, we don’t do these until mid-to-late January, but we’ll try it here today. These aren't my ideas for a Roster Blueprint. I’m not going to try to predict which free agents the Twins will sign. I’m not going to predict trades. The purpose of this is just to talk about the Opening Day roster, with players currently in the organization.

 

Here is what I think the Twins Opening Day roster could look like if the season were to start today, which is doesn't.Check out my roster projections, and then let’s discuss. Be sure to add your projections too.

 

Catchers (2): Kurt Suzuki, John Ryan Murphy

 

The trades from the past two days make this a pretty easy choice for right now. Chris Herrmann is out, and John Ryan Murphy is now in. My guess is that these two catchers will split time pretty evenly the first few months. By midseason or so, I think that Murphy will gradually start getting more playing time. One goal, unspoken for sure, will be to keep Suzuki under the 485 plate appearances which would make his vesting option for 2017 kick in.

 

At this time, we still don’t know whether or not Pinto will catch again. Following his second concussion of 2015, he didn’t catch any more. The Twins said he will likely get another opportunity to catch in 2016, but I don’t think that is a given either. He may fit onto the roster more as a pinch hitter at this point. However, he is out of options in 2016.

 

Gone from 2015: Chris Herrmann, Eric Fryer

 

 

Infielders (7): Joe Mauer, Byung-ho Park, Brian Dozier, Trevor Plouffe, Eduardo Escobar, Eduardo Nunez, Danny Santana

 

What do we know? Joe Mauer will be the primary first baseman. Brian Dozier will be at second base. I want to say that Eduardo Escobar is a given to be the team’s starting shortstop from the get go in 2016. He has earned it, and there isn’t a free agent shortstop available who is really a better option than what they already have.

 

Unfinished Business: Byung-ho Park will get some time at first base too, but he will likely be the primary DH. I realize he hasn’t signed yet, but it’s hard to imagine that he wouldn’t want to come to the States to pursue his dream.

 

The Elephant in the Room: What will the Twins do with Trevor Plouffe? Terry Ryan is saying all the right things. There is no reason for him to come out and flatly say that he wants to trade the third baseman. He has been in the organization since being drafted in 2004 as a 17-year-old. He does have two years of team control remaining and has been an above-average third baseman, offensively and defensively, the last two seasons. Ryan will likely try to maximize the return for Plouffe and to do that, he has let it come out that they would consider Miguel Sano in the outfield. As of today, Plouffe is the third baseman, but expect this to be a very fluid situation, full of rumors. And frankly, Terry Ryan doesn’t have to trade Plouffe. Keeping him should remain on the table.

 

The Bench: Danny Santana is out of options in 2016. He has all the tools to be a solid regular. He did a great job in 2014 offensively and playing center field. As the everyday shortstop in the first half of 2015, he struggled mightily. Sure, he could be a trade option for the right return, but my sense is that he will be the utility player, able to play shortstop, second base, and centerfield. My guess is that he’ll see time at third base and in left field in spring training. Eduardo Nunez had a really nice season as a role player for the Twins in 2015. In his second year of arbitration, he could make between $1.75 million ad $2 million, not a ton for a solid utility player. Nunez can play three infield positions and both corner outfield spots. To me, it’s an easy decision to offer him arbitration, but it is also possible that he could be traded to a team looking for a solid utility player. Kennys Vargas is a guy who would be ready in-season if there were an injury to Mauer or Park. Jorge Polanco would be an option in the middle of the diamond.

 

Gone from 2015: Doug Bernier,

 

 

Outfielders (4): Miguel Sano, Byron Buxton, Eddie Rosario, Oswaldo Arcia

 

I wrote much of this a day ago, before the Twins traded Aaron Hicks. I listed Hicks and Rosario as strong trade candidates. Now I look at who is likely to make the roster as of today, and there are not as many options.

 

With the Aaron Hicks trade, it may be more possible that Byron Buxton will make the team right out of spring training. Eddie Rosario and Danny Santana can play center if Buxton needs a little more AAA seasoning. Max Kepler is not far off either.

 

Is it really possible that the Twins could put Miguel Sano in the outfield? Despite his size, Sano has great athleticism and could likely be an adequate defender. However, since he’s never really played out there, it’s impossible to know. Sano is a given to be on the roster, of course. I mean, he was the team’s MVP and is a finalist for AL Rookie of the Year after an impressive debut. It feels more likely that he’ll be the regular third baseman, but this is an option. Personally, with a large left field at Target Field, I would prefer Sano in right field if he were to play out there.

 

Don’t Forget: Oswaldo Arcia hit 20 home runs, in the big leagues, in 2014. 2015 was a disaster and yet he is still just 24-years-old. He is out of options, so he will need to be on the big league roster or potentially be lost for nothing. He is definitely a sell-low trade candidate… who could go elsewhere and find his power stroke again.

 

Can you imagine an outfield of Miguel Sano, Rosario and Oswaldo Arcia? That is a little scary.

 

Gone from 2015: Torii Hunter, Aaron Hicks, Shane Robinson

 

 

Starting Pitchers (5): Phil Hughes, Ervin Santana, Kyle Gibson, Tyler Duffey, Tommy Milone

 

In my opinion, Hughes, Santana and Gibson are locks to make the Twins Opening Day roster and starting rotation barring, of course, an unforeseen trade. In my opinion, Tyler Duffey showed in his last nine starts that he is ready for the job and should be in the rotation right from the start. Though his name may not be in Sharpie ink, it should be in that erasable ink that really doesn’t erase very well and actually just makes a mess but doesn’t really erase.

 

After that, the question marks. If Tommy Milone is on the roster, he deserves to be a starter. The Twins will most likely tender him a contract and look to trade him. The return won’t be a lot, but Milone was good most of 2015, except when he was hurt. Likewise, Trevor May was told he would be given an opportunity to start again in 2016 after being moved to the bullpen around the All-Star break. He’s got the best strikeout stuff in the rotation, but he also showed that he could be dominant in the late innings. Ricky Nolasco’s salary may be able to be dumped, but at what cost to the Twins. Could they get anything in return for someone taking on all, or at least some, of his two remaining years? If not, he should come to spring training with a chance to make the starting rotation. And, of course, everyone wants to see JO Berrios get an opportunity. No question, he will be given a real chance to make the Opening Day roster, but he will have to be very good. More likely, he begins the season with the Red Wings and is the first to be called up.

 

Gone from 2015: Mike Pelfrey,

 

 

Bullpen (7): Glen Perkins, Kevin Jepsen, Trevor May, Casey Fien, Michael Tonkin, Ryan Pressly, Logan Darnell

 

The bullpen is a huge priority for the Twins in the offseason, and to this point they haven’t made any moves there. Glen Perkins is a given to be back. Assuming he isn’t starting, Trevor May is a lock. Kevin Jepsen will be offered arbitration and come back. I would offer arbitration to Casey Fien, though that is certainly not a given to happen. Michael Tonkin is out of options. Few have traveled back and forth from Minneapolis to Rochester as many times, ever, so the Twins will either need to give him a job or risk losing him on waivers. He would be claimed. Ryan Pressly was pitching well when he got injured and will likely be in the running for a spot in 2016. I went with Logan Darnell on this roster, and he is the only left-hander I’ve shown. He probably fits the roster more as a long reliever than a LOOGY.

 

So who else could be considered from inside? If they want another left-hander, there are some internal options. Ryan O’Rourke is an option against lefties. Taylor Rogers should be given an opportunity right out of spring training. He could be a long-reliever or he could be good facing only left-handers. It’s also entirely possible that Brian Duensing comes back on a lower contract.

 

Likewise, Blaine Boyer could be brought back from the right side. AJ Achter is an option in the 6th or 7th innings. At some point, Alex Meyer could again become an option. JT Chargois, Nick Burdi and Jake Reed are certainly candidates to make the Twins roster at some point in 2016, though Opening Day is probably unrealistic.

 

It is likely that any potential Trevor Plouffe deal would bring back at least one controllable reliever as part of the package.

 

Gone from 2015: Blaine Boyer, Brian Duensing, Aaron Thompson

 

 

This offseason has a long ways to go. A lot will happen yet, even before spring training. What are your thoughts? What does your roster look like today?

 

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Plouffe is gone, (and I'm a fan) with Sano at 3B.

 

The Twins sign a RH hitting, solid vet OF to platoon with and late inning replace Arcia. (*no disrespect, but Robinson is a AAAA, 5th OF, fill-in)

 

Trade or FA, we need one significant bullpen addition to team with Perkins and Jepsen.

 

For 1 year, May or Duffey will probably be in the pen to make room for Beerios, and to help the bullpen of course. But it just doesn't make sense to place such a young and potential filled starter in the pen permanately. Injury or trade, at some point in 16 or for 17, whichever one should be back in the rotation.

 

I have changed my opinion on Milone, and I really like the idea of him as a multi purpose swing man in the bullpen.

 

So 1 OF and 1 quality RP and that's about it. Otherwise I think you pretty much nailed it.

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TR seems to be in a wheeling and dealing mode so lets say he went nuts and have some fun with it.

 

Trade Plouffe for pitching (straight up for a promising young starter or a stud young reliever +)

 

Trade Gibson for a big bat corner outfielder (How awesome would Jay Bruce or CarGo be? How much more do those cost?  What about Ozuna from the Marlins?)

 

Sign Jordan Zimmerman

 

Trade Arcia for peanuts

 

Sign Tyler Clippard

 

Sign Sean Marshall

 

CF Buxton

2B Dozier

3B Sano

RF Bat acquired for Gibson

DH Park

LF Roasrio

1B Mauer

SS Escobar

C Murphy

 

C Suzuki

IF Nunez

IF/OF Santana

OF/ 1B/ 3B Old vet acquired from Nolasco

 

Zimmerman

Santana

Hughes

May

Duffey

 

Milone

Tonkin

Marshall

Jepsen

Plouffe aquisition

Clippard

Perkins

 

 

 

 

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Trade Plouffe, Milone, Suzuki, and Max Kepler to the Brewers for LuCroy and LHP Will Smith. Then sign a Ryan Madson, Joakim Soria, Darren O'Day type RHP for the bullpen. This sets the team up pretty well for the present, while only making 1 trade and 1 FA signing. I guess we have to sign Park (yet) and I don't know if the trade proposed here is a feasible enough trade for both (either) side.

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Trade Plouffe, Milone, Suzuki, and Max Kepler to the Brewers for LuCroy and LHP Will Smith. Then sign a Ryan Madson, Joakim Soria, Darren O'Day type RHP for the bullpen. This sets the team up pretty well for the present, while only making 1 trade and 1 FA signing. I guess we have to sign Park (yet) and I don't know if the trade proposed here is a feasible enough trade for both (either) side.

I would guess LuCroy is 1 WAR than Murphy and you want to give up Plouffe, Suzuki, Milone, and Kepler?   HORRIBLE idea.    Trade Plouffe for a corner OF or stud reliever and it would have equal or more impact than trading for LuCroy and you still have Milone and 6 years of Max Kepler.  Then, spend the money saved on LuCroy for a stud reliever or corner OF depending on which  one you get by trading Plouffe.

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I agree Buxton might make it opening day. Maybe even lead off. And Sano is more likely to play in the outfield now with Hicks out.

The last thing we need is a Buxton-Sano collision in the outfield :(

 

Dislike. Don't even think this. I'm throwing salt over my shoulder while crossing my fingers and toes and knocking on wood.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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I would be very disappointed if May ends up in the pen.  I think that's the wrong answer, but there's a glut of pitchers in front of him.  I get that Duffey had more success out of the gate, but May has more upside and was the Twins best SP when he got demoted.  I think it is way too early to give up on that, and I'd even be willing to have Duffey on the Rochester shuttle to start 2016 to let May there. 

 

Looking at your writeup, I have to think that Josmil Pinto (also out of options I belive) will function as a bench bat, occasional DH/1B/backup C as well.  The kid has a good enough track record to say he can hit and I think he'll improve the bench bat situation quite nicely.  Nunez has a little pop too, and of course so does Arcia, which should give Molitor a decent option most games. 

 

I really think that the Twins will try to get an OF, whether that's a Span on a 1 year deal (I doubt Span does that) or a trade to pick someone up with a year left.  Even if Plouffe is traded, I don't think TR relies on one of Buxton/Kepler/Walker to hold down a spot in the spring of 2016.  All have way too many question marks, though I fully expect one or more to be pounding down that door by the end of May.  

 

That said, I think the roster has to still be lighter some major leaguers at some point.  My candidates are Santana, Plouffe,Nolasco, Milone, and Gibson.  I would be actively shopping all 5.

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I would guess LuCroy is 1 WAR than Murphy and you want to give up Plouffe, Suzuki, Milone, and Kepler?   HORRIBLE idea.    Trade Plouffe for a corner OF or stud reliever and it would have equal or more impact than trading for LuCroy and you still have Milone and 6 years of Max Kepler.  Then, spend the money saved on LuCroy for a stud reliever or corner OF depending on which  one you get by trading Plouffe.

 

He had Will Smith in the deal too, and he might be the best, stud reliever out there.

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"With the Aaron Hicks trade, it may be more possible that Byron Buxton will make the team right out of spring training."  Sounds about right.  This past year, people had to get hurt before Buxton got called up.  This time, had to get rid of someone.  I'd like to see him force his way onto the team.

 

I don't understand why people keep saying Sano in LF.  Rosario had pretty darn good 1st year.  If Sano's not going to be a good defender in the OF, at least put him in RF where his arm strength will be more useful.  Ryan has only talked about Sano as an RF'r. 

 

I don't see Plouffe being traded at all.  The starting staff could really use a guy with some pop in his fastball. Bullpen?  Signs of life......

 

I like as much speed as I can get at the top of the lineup:

 

CF D. Santana - counting on 2014 as reality

SS Escobar - earned the job

LF Rosario - earned the job + xbh power

RF Sano - um, where he belongs?  :)

3B Plouffe - some backup for Sano

1B Mauer - bat and speed play better here

2B Dozier - hitting behind on OBP guy like Mauer makes sense

DH Arcia - short leash

C Murphy - fantastic pickup, imho

 

Bench:  Nunez, Vargas maybe Polanco or any good contact hitter.

SP:  I go with Seth:  Phil Hughes, Ervin Santana, Kyle Gibson.  Duffey earned it.  I like Milone, but he's another guy what would look better on a staff of hard thowers.  I'd be more motivated to move Nolasco at any cost.

RP:  Perkins/Jepsen as co-closers.  The minor leaguers out of options du jour.  I'd be happy as hell if they could bribe O'Day into signing.

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TR is famous for making his moves early.  I expect December changes, but then a slow down.   What makes most sense now is moving pitchers and clearing the logjam.   We do not need another corner outfielder.  Sano, Buxton, Kepler, Arcia, Rosario fill the spots unless Sano moves to 3B.  Clear room for Berrios, move on from Fien, and get us another live arm in the pen, that is the biggest priority.  I love the KC playing style.  It is not easy to copy, but speed, defense and relief pitching are real priorities. With our pitchers we need the defense to be solid and moving Hicks was a good trade on one level, but if Buxton is between Arcia and Sano he should be wearing a track suit. 

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I agree Buxton might make it opening day. Maybe even lead off. And Sano is more likely to play in the outfield now with Hicks out.

The last thing we need is a Buxton-Sano collision in the outfield :(

I am not sure whether I want to 'like' this post or not... is there a 'dislike' button?

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I mostly agree. However, I do believe the Twins will pursue a reliever on the Free Agent market this winter. Possibly Antonio Bastardo or Tony Sipp. Also in the bullpen, I have J.R. Graham cracking the OD Roster. That is not to say he will stay, but I like him as the "long man" out there, as the other options are mostly 1-2 inning guys. Graham can pitch 3 innings and 4 if he is working efficiently. 

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"With the Aaron Hicks trade, it may be more possible that Byron Buxton will make the team right out of spring training." Sounds about right. This past year, people had to get hurt before Buxton got called up. This time, had to get rid of someone. I'd like to see him force his way onto the team.

 

I don't understand why people keep saying Sano in LF. Rosario had pretty darn good 1st year. If Sano's not going to be a good defender in the OF, at least put him in RF where his arm strength will be more useful. Ryan has only talked about Sano as an RF'r.

 

I don't see Plouffe being traded at all. The starting staff could really use a guy with some pop in his fastball. Bullpen? Signs of life......

 

I like as much speed as I can get at the top of the lineup:

 

CF D. Santana - counting on 2014 as reality

SS Escobar - earned the job

LF Rosario - earned the job + xbh power

RF Sano - um, where he belongs? :)

3B Plouffe - some backup for Sano

1B Mauer - bat and speed play better here

2B Dozier - hitting behind on OBP guy like Mauer makes sense

DH Arcia - short leash

C Murphy - fantastic pickup, imho

 

Bench: Nunez, Vargas maybe Polanco or any good contact hitter.

SP: I go with Seth: Phil Hughes, Ervin Santana, Kyle Gibson. Duffey earned it. I like Milone, but he's another guy what would look better on a staff of hard thowers. I'd be more motivated to move Nolasco at any cost.

RP: Perkins/Jepsen as co-closers. The minor leaguers out of options du jour. I'd be happy as hell if they could bribe O'Day into signing.

The first three hitters in your proposed lineup:

 

Danny Santana: Career .309 OBP/2014 was a fluke

Eduardo Escobar: Career .303 OBP/Love me some Eduardo, just not hitting 2nd

Eddie Rosario: Career .289 OBP/One of the lowest walk rates in MLB

 

Having your 1-3 hitters consist of players that struggle to get on base consistently, is not a recipe for success.

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I would actually play Plouffe in the outfield over Sano at this point. Sano may be as skillful at third, nd Plouffe might offer some better range in the outfield. The Twins DO have to give Arcia anotehr chance.

 

The bullpen is a mess. No Noalsco. I don't see Darnell (would rather put in ROgers at this point). But spring training will show us soimeone stepping up. Still need some power throwing arms there. I doubt that any of the youngsters NOT on the 40-man will crack the bullpen this early. Tonkin is still only depth. Fien is approaching Burton 2.0. We don't even need to consider Duensing (move on) and Boyer can be given a look, but I wouldn't part with a 40-man roster spot for him at this point period.

 

Nunez is also a questionable option. Can Ryan play third or first in an emergency? Do we add Pinto to the mix (or deep-six him from the 40-man and forget about him because of the longjam at DH)?

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I would actually play Plouffe in the outfield over Sano at this point. Sano may be as skillful at third, nd Plouffe might offer some better range in the outfield. The Twins DO have to give Arcia anotehr chance.

 

The bullpen is a mess. No Noalsco. I don't see Darnell (would rather put in ROgers at this point). But spring training will show us soimeone stepping up. Still need some power throwing arms there. I doubt that any of the youngsters NOT on the 40-man will crack the bullpen this early. Tonkin is still only depth. Fien is approaching Burton 2.0. We don't even need to consider Duensing (move on) and Boyer can be given a look, but I wouldn't part with a 40-man roster spot for him at this point period.

 

Nunez is also a questionable option. Can Ryan play third or first in an emergency? Do we add Pinto to the mix (or deep-six him from the 40-man and forget about him because of the longjam at DH)?

Plouffe is slow. I'd bet 1k without hesitation that Sano would beat Plouffe in a footrace, even an 260 bills.

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I would guess LuCroy is 1 WAR than Murphy and you want to give up Plouffe, Suzuki, Milone, and Kepler?   HORRIBLE idea.    Trade Plouffe for a corner OF or stud reliever and it would have equal or more impact than trading for LuCroy and you still have Milone and 6 years of Max Kepler.  Then, spend the money saved on LuCroy for a stud reliever or corner OF depending on which  one you get by trading Plouffe.

You are getting rid of Suzuki's contract ( LuCroy's is less for 2 years) You are getting a cost controlled LHRP (probably the best available in the whole league). LuCroy and Murphy would be a very effective tandem behind the plate and you wouldn't have to wear either one out. A trade like this actually helps the payroll numbers (8M for Plouffe, 6M for Suzuki, and 5-6 M for Milone). I know giving up Kepler is a risky gamble. and you might have to acquire another "good defensive OF" if you made a trade like this.

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Will Sano stay healthy playing 3B or the OF? His hammy was giving him problems as a DH last year. I'd like to keep Plouffe around for this season at least just to see if Sano can stay healthy and hold his own defensively.

 

Santana's suddenly a guy with an opportunity again after the Hicks trade. I would argue that the trade benefits him most as I think it's likely Buxton will not make the club out of Spring training. If Danny plays well the early season OF could be:

Rosario LF

Santana CF

Sano/Arcia/? RF

 

 

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Has anyone come out and said whether Meyer would get a shot at starting in 2016? I would love to see him get another chance as a starter. He can always fall back into the bullpen if 2015 happens again.

 

Lets just see if he can make the team in any capacity in 2016.  Remember he lost his starting gig in Rochester.  He lacked control, confidence and walked a ton of people. 

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The Bench: Danny Santana is out of options in 2016. He has all the tools to be a solid regular. He did a great job in 2014 offensively and playing center field. As the everyday shortstop in the first half of 2015, he struggled mightily. Sure, he could be a trade option for the right return, but my sense is that he will be the utility player, able to play shortstop, second base, and centerfield. My guess is that he’ll see time at third base and in left field in spring training. 

I think Danny Santana needs to see time at second base in spring training too -- he hasn't played there at all since 2013, and you have to go back another year to find his last non-emergency stateside starts at the position.

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Lets just see if he can make the team in any capacity in 2016.  Remember he lost his starting gig in Rochester.  He lacked control, confidence and walked a ton of people. 

It would seem kind of odd, given the stark delineation between starting and relieving in modern MLB, to leave a player in limbo about his expected role over the winter, though.

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I think Danny Santana needs to see time at second base in spring training too -- he hasn't played there at all since 2013, and you have to go back another year to find his last non-emergency stateside starts at the position.

 

I pointed out this morning on Twitter... Santana has made 7 starts now in the Dominican Winter League. Five of the have been in CF, and he has one start each at SS and 2B. 

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