Whaddya think-- Gardy to the Nats?

[David HK]

I dunno, National League and all--  

 

But... veteran club, tons of ex-Twins, who knows?  It would not surprise me.  Little Nicky, bench coach, keepin' the young'un in line, and battlin' his tail off...  could be a good thing!

[DaveW]

I think he would be a fantastic hire for them, Matt Williams by all accounts had very little personality and was a poor communicator. Gardy always seemed like a "players coach" who got along with most everyone and kept things rather loose.

 

I would be interested to see how he would deal with the egos of Papelbon and Harper, the Twins never had anyone that rocked the boat like those two.

 

I also think Gardy would be a good fit in Anaheim or Detroit if both jobs end up open.

[sane]

"Whaddya think-- Gardy to the Nats?"

 

That is a fantastic trade for the Twins!

[Craig Arko]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 4:01 PM, sane said:

"Whaddya think-- Gardy to the Nats?"

 

That is a fantastic trade for the Twins!

Do we get Ramos back in return?

[sane]

  On 10/5/2015 at 3:55 PM, David HK said:

 

Little Nicky, bench coach..  could be a good thing!

Andy could make Schertzer and Strasburg "pitch to contact" guys. No more embarassments like Schertzer's performance yesterday!

 

And Gardy might get Baracksie, Trumpsie and Congress to battle their tails off!

[Vanimal46]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 3:58 PM, DaveW said:

I think he would be a fantastic hire for them, Matt Williams by all accounts had very little personality and was a poor communicator. Gardy always seemed like a "players coach" who got along with most everyone and kept things rather loose.

 

I would be interested to see how he would deal with the egos of Papelbon and Harper, the Twins never had anyone that rocked the boat like those two.

 

I also think Gardy would be a good fit in Anaheim or Detroit if both jobs end up open.

 

 

I don't know how to put tweets on here, but Bill Shaikin, Angels beat writer, tweeted that Scioscia is returning as their manager next season. 

 

 

 

 

[DaveW]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 4:20 PM, Vanimal46 said:

I don't know how to put tweets on here, but Bill Shaikin, Angels beat writer, tweeted that Scioscia is returning as their manager next season. 

Ah, replace Angels with Mariners then.

[spinowner]

Based on what I've read over the years Gardy has generally been well-regarded by baseball insiders. I'd think Washington might be a good fit. Miami, on the other hand, probably not so much.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Gardy is everything Matt Williams wasn't. I would think they will at least interview him.

[DaveW]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 5:20 PM, spinowner said:

Based on what I've read over the years Gardy has generally been well-regarded by baseball insiders. I'd think Washington might be a good fit. Miami, on the other hand, probably not so much.

Yeah, he would be foolish to take that job.

[Mike Sixel]

I think he has a real shot to be in Washington, and if unlike Matt he can not cost the team more losses than most managers in all of baseball, they should be in the playoffs next year for sure.

[Seth Stohs]

I think Gardy makes a ton of sense with the Nationals.

[notoriousgod71]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 3:58 PM, DaveW said:

I think he would be a fantastic hire for them, Matt Williams by all accounts had very little personality and was a poor communicator. Gardy always seemed like a "players coach" who got along with most everyone and kept things rather loose.

 

I would be interested to see how he would deal with the egos of Papelbon and Harper, the Twins never had anyone that rocked the boat like those two.

 

I also think Gardy would be a good fit in Anaheim or Detroit if both jobs end up open.

 

Gardy dealing with those two would be glorious, particularly Papelbon, who I think should be gone anyway.

[DaveW]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 5:35 PM, Seth Stohs said:

I think Gardy makes a ton of sense with the Nationals.

Yeah, his reputation around the league and especially amongst other fans is very very positive, I think the Nats and their fans would be immediately thrilled. It's hard to argue with the success he had in Minnesota with teams that didn't have 75% of the talent that exists on the Nationals.

[DaveW]

 

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 10:20 PM, notoriousgod71 said:

Gardy dealing with those two would be glorious, particularly Papelbon, who I think should be gone anyway.

I think he would get along with Harper who for the most part plays the game extremely hard and at 110%, plus Harper seems to be a solid teamate.

Papelbon, who knows, maybe Gardy and his laid back nature is what is needed a bit? Francona did pretty well with Papelbon in Boston after all.

[Thrylos]

Would love to see what Anderson will do to with that pitching staff

 

Not sure that it is a good fit for Gardenhire.  Too many strong player personalities and too many fan expectations in DC.   A more laid back team with more forgiving fans, like Atlanta or Miami might be a better fit for him.

[jokin]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 10:23 PM, DaveW said:

I think he would get along with Harper who for the most part plays the game extremely hard and at 110%, plus Harper seems to be a solid teamate.

Papelbon, who knows, maybe Gardy and his laid back nature is what is needed a bit? Francona did pretty well with Papelbon in Boston after all.

 

Are we thinking that Gardy would be allowed to bring his stable of coaches?  I have a feeling that Andy would get laughed off the field trying to convert Papelbon and the Aces into P2C throwers.  And "swing like a girl" and hit the opposite way definitely won't exactly win Gardy's hitting coach a vote of confidence with Harper. 

[jokin]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 10:32 PM, Thrylos said:

Would love to see what Anderson will do to with that pitching staff

 

Not sure that it is a good fit for Gardenhire.  Too many strong player personalities and too many fan expectations in DC.   A more laid back team with more forgiving fans, like Atlanta or Miami might be a better fit for him.

 

You beat me to it Thry, sorry, I was typing while you were posting.

 

And you're right, the fan base has a different sort of expectations on both W-L and how erudite and analytical their manager should be.  The former Federal Reserve Chief, Ben Bernanke is an avid fan and sabremetrician and has complete pre-game access to the field, for heavens sake.  Gardy hated second guessers in Minnesota, everyone is a second guesser in DC, but only with a finance, economics, engineering or law degree. They tear up the unwashed rube-types for breakfast-  

 

Hey Gardy, how would you like to be dogged daily by a real, live, actual Quant, not just a few baseball nerds who took a stats course and have a website and Twitter on their resume?:

 

  Quote

Bernanke loves baseball for the same reason he chose economics as his profession: the power and clarity of numbers.

 

"The numbers are so concrete," he says in a conversation in the Nats press box before a game against the Miami Marlins on a sunny afternoon last month. "In baseball, you've got all the data going back to the 1880s for all the players, and if you understand how to use numbers, it makes it come alive."

 

He watches the game with the same impassive manner and attention to detail that must have marked his tenure at Fed deliberations. Wearing jeans and a worn blue-gray Nats cap, he doesn't shout and rarely cheers, but he does politely clap when a Nats player gets a hit or the team leaves the field.

 

"He won't swing," Bernanke predicts as Yunel Escobar faces a 3-2 count. Escobar, who led the league in batting into double plays, has been excoriated in baseball blogs in recent days for doing just that even though star hitter Bryce Harper would have been up next. This time, as predicted, Escobar doesn't swing and gets a walk.

 

"It's time for Harper to get something," Bernanke says in the next inning as the right-fielder comes up to bat. Done: He hits a home run.

 

 

 http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c4a1bbed040367ef39abd0f944c8d0f883ddc7b2/c=0-0-3767-2832&r=x408&c=540x405/local/-/media/2015/10/02/USATODAY/USATODAY/635793790839872406-XXX-7185.JPG

[jimbo92107]

Gardenhire to the Nats... Interesting destination. Managing some of those egos might be tough. His biggest problem might be the local press, which might regard him as a small-market guy that can't handle a national stage. If he loses a few games, will they treat him like a Midwestern bumpkin? If they win a few, will he suddenly be the homeland hero with simple, homespun wisdom? In Washington the baloney wagon is always groaning from the load.

[Thrylos]

 

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 11:24 PM, jaimedude2 said:

 

 

  You win with players, not managers, it is the managers job to get the best out of his players and that was not something Gardy was bad at motivation players.

 

If that were true, could you please explain (logically, voodoo and luck does not count) :

 

a. The Twins' record in 2015 vs 2014 with pretty much the same players?

b. The 2006 post-season when the Twins had both the MVP and Cy Young winners as well as the AL batting champion?

 

Thank you.

[DaveW]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 11:29 PM, Thrylos said:

 

 

 

If that were true, could you please explain (logically, voodoo and luck does not count) :

 

a. The Twins' record in 2015 vs 2014 with pretty much the same players?

b. The 2006 post-season when the Twins had both the MVP and Cy Young winners as well as the AL batting champion?

 

Thank you.

 

a. Sano+Rosario+Duffey+Ervin Santana+Improved Hicks (Not to mention a healthy dose of luck in situational hitting/pitching just check out their ranks in hitting and pitching categories)

b.SSS

[Thrylos]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 11:43 PM, DaveW said:

a. Sano+Rosario+Duffey+Ervin Santana+Improved Hicks (Not to mention a healthy dose of luck in situational hitting/pitching just check out their ranks in hitting and pitching categories)

b.SSS

 

a. minus Vargas, minus D. Santana, minus half Perkins, minus good Hughes, 1 win off Dozier and only half E. Santana. Telling you, its a wash.  (2015: 13th/15 AL in OPS 10/15 in ERA; 2014: 5/15 in OPS, 15/15 in ERA - one might argue that the 2014 team was better; composite ranking 10/15 vs 12/15 for 2015..)

 

b. Post-season is SSS by definition.  That's where legends are made.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

You can criticize Gardenhire for some things but it's hard to criticize him for being old fashioned after seeing how 2015 played out. Since Gardy was canned, this organization has double-downed in old fashionedness, split pairs and triple-downed, in spades, all in, every card metaphor you can think of. Sac bunting, pitch to contact, cutting down on strikeouts. Not saying any of that is bad, or can't work, it's just how it is. I think Molitor was one strikeout away from asking Sano to choke up with two strikes and slap it the other way. Of course Gardy was on board with that stuff but as it turns out, he wasn't the one driving it. Gardy is a big personality and could command instant authority in the Nationals clubhouse.

[Willihammer]

 

  On 10/5/2015 at 10:34 PM, jokin said:

Are we thinking that Gardy would be allowed to bring his stable of coaches?  I have a feeling that Andy would get laughed off the field trying to convert Papelbon and the Aces into P2C throwers.  And "swing like a girl" and hit the opposite way definitely won't exactly win Gardy's hitting coach a vote of confidence with Harper. 

Good question, I have no idea who  he might want. Think he would peel anyone from the Twins?

[jokin]

 

  On 10/6/2015 at 9:23 PM, Willihammer said:

Good question, I have no idea who  he might want. Think he would peel anyone from the Twins?

 

Vavra.

[Thrylos]

 

  On 10/6/2015 at 10:40 PM, jokin said:

Vavra.

AMEN!

[h2oface]

I would love to see Ramos playing some outfield!

[Rosterman]

Just seeing your name considered, especially when old workhorses like Bowa and Baker are being bandied around, means you might get a job. For a moment there I thought Gardy might not even be considered for a job this year. And soon he'll have to compete against people like Phil Nevin and Doug Mientkiewicz. Not to mention Mike Redmond!

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Lol @ the nats. Is my thought.

[Pius Jefferson]

I don't see Gardenhire being hired by any team unless he's willing to change with the times. Even than there might be better candidates like Bud Black hired chosen over him.