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nytwinsfan
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Don't trade Kepler unless someone offers a straight up Ace with control left in future years. Otherwise No no no.

Brock Beauchamp
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I think Kepler's likely ceiling is Scherzer because they're both named Max.   Though Kepler's full name is Maximilian while Scherzer's is Maxwell so that's probably worth a couple of extra WAR.

Mike Sixel
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Uh, Kepler's SLG is pretty high for a 22 YO in AA ball.......   Defense? He plays CF, RF, and 1B.   Ceiling is Stahoviak? Uh, no. Not close. Wow. Just, wow.

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Underwhelming. A nice complementary guy having a down season but I hope he's not the only addition.

He's better than anyone else in the bullpen beyond Perkins.  The deal is contingent on what they gave up.  Given the price of difference makers, I'm glad the Twins aren't overly eager to deal from their minor league depth.  (And this is colored by my belief that the Twins are really only pseudo-competitive, and really wouldn't ahve much playoff longevity even if they make the wildcard.)

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He's better than anyone else in the bullpen beyond Perkins.  The deal is contingent on what they gave up.  Given the price of difference makers, I'm glad the Twins aren't overly eager to deal from their minor league depth.  (And this is colored by my belief that the Twins are really only pseudo-competitive, and really wouldn't ahve much playoff longevity even if they make the wildcard.)

I agree but the Twins need at least two guys better than everybody they have to stabilize the bullpen.

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LaVelle E. Neal III ‏@LaVelleNeal  2m2 minutes ago
Twins will send Rays Chin-Wei Hu and Alexis Tapia

 

Hu is too much, damn.

 

Jepson is arb eligible again this winter, but I feel we could have gotten a better RP for him.  I think this is a seller's market for sure.

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????

 

Jays are mostly acquiring long term assets back....mostly, not totally.

 

The Astros are filled with young guys, this isn't some aging team.

 

I think the Astros have made this deadline extra frustrating. We were in the same boat in 2012. Same boat in 2013. Same boat in 2014. Same boat in March. Same boat in May. Same boat in early July.

 

The Twins are not doing moves because "we don't want to mortgage the future", but I don't think we'd say that Houston seems to have mortgaged anything, yet they have significantly improved their potential playoff team while we sit here with essentially the same potential playoff team as we had 3 weeks ago. 

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Heard earlier that the Padres were insisting that Mateo be included in the Kimbrel deal....then is sounds like the Yankees included him, but the Padres thought they could do better....yikes no wonder the Padres didn't deal anybody (as of now, I know stuff could still be rolling in).

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Sooo, will the big losers of the day be the Padres? Holding on to just about everybody because they thought they were holding all the chips.

Nice try to change the subject TR!

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Here's a national guy agreeing with the Twins deadline approach. I would have added a minimum of one more reliever but I don't exactly disagree.

 

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-trade-deadline-winners-losers-blue-jays-royals-dodgers-mets-padres-yankees/?ex_cid=story-twitter

 

 

 

In recent seasons, Pirates GM Neal Huntington found himself entering July with a team playing better than its roster makeup and underlying stats suggested, and the main wave of prospects still a couple of years away. So he’d respond to the pressure to buy by picking up a platoon first baseman here or a good reliever there, without touching the Gerrit Cole- or Gregory Polanco-level prospects in his farm system. It was a hedge toward his team continuing to exceed expectations without blowing up the future. And now that we’re in the future, with Pittsburgh on its way to its third playoff berth in as many years, Huntington looks pretty smart.

 

I was a huge fan of Huntington’s customary annual head fake toward buying at the deadline, and I’m an equally huge fan of Twins GM Terry Ryan doing the same this week. The Twins, who hold the AL’s second wild-card spot at the moment but will have to hold off a very crowded field of contenders to stay there, could’ve used an upgrade at catcher, shortstop, or in the starting rotation (because everyone needs more pitching). And if Ryan had chosen to pursue that course of action, he could’ve dealt from a comic-book supervillain’s arsenal of prospects. But instead of going after Hamels or Price, he made a low-profile move for Kevin Jepsen, who’s an OK reliever, and nothing else.

 

I like a few things about this: First, it shows faith in the young players already up and challenges Eddie Rosario and Miguel Sano to prove that they can carry a team to the playoffs now. If that works, it’s a huge psychological and perceptional boost for the franchise and those young stars. Second, even if it doesn’t work, it’s something that the Twins would’ve gone 85-77 — or wherever they end up — with only half a season of Sano and Ervin Santana, and having gotten nothing from Byron Buxton, J.O. Berrios, and Jorge Polanco. It’s easier to build when you don’t sell off all the materials you need before you’re done, and by standing pat, Ryan has set up the Twins to continue to be just fine now and absolutely bonkers in the near future.

 

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And, how do you propose fixing catcher or short stop next year, if you are not allowed to trade?

 

And considering a total of 2 SS (traded for each other) and 0 Cs were moved at the deadline, there wasn't exactly a huge number of those pieces floating out there.

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The article praised them for not trading for a catcher or short stop.......i assume trading for one next year would therefore be a mistake. Ergo my question, how do they fix those next year?

 

I don't consider Grantland and ESPN the same, but fair. My point was that not everyone agrees it was a good deadline. Nothing more or less.

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