July 3, 201214 yr You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?753-Trade-Target-Team-Profile-Atlanta-Braves
July 3, 201214 yr Twins were linked to Gilmartin in the 2010 draft, too. I'm sure he still has some fans in our FO.
July 3, 201214 yr Another great article on possible trade partners. I hope that someone in the front office is reading these.
July 3, 201214 yr Another great article on possible trade partners. I hope that someone in the front office is reading these. I'm sure Ryan has this site bookmarked.
July 3, 201214 yr I hate the Braves so as long as we totally fleece them I'm good with whatever. But no thanks on Gilmartin.
July 3, 201214 yr Author I wonder just how reasonable it would be for the Twins go get one of those top 3 guys. I would think that the Braves would need to be outmaneuvered for some of these other guys and need to feel like they had to respond to another contender. Boy, I'd be really happy with any of them.
July 3, 201214 yr It may work in the Twins favor that they play in the AL, as the other teams with top-flight starters all play in the NL, and the Braves may not want to deliver a young starter to teams their directly competitive with (all other things being equal, that is).
July 3, 201214 yr the Braves may not want to deliver a young starter to teams their directly competitive withUmmm....perhaps you forgot a little thing called the 1991 World Series???? Yeah.
July 3, 201214 yr Another name to add to the list is the Braves' 2011 4th round pick, J.R. Graham. He's a 22 year old righty in high-A who is starting full-time for the first time. Everything you read about him talks about how electric his stuff is. He works primarily off of a low-mid 90s sinking fastball and a slider, and, given his 2 pitch mix, he may very well be a reliever. He has only struck out only 61 batters in 92 2/3 innings, but he has also walked just 16. He has been successful this season despite the noticeable lack of strikeouts because he's an absolute ground ball machine, generating 2.23 outs on the ground to every 1 in the air.
July 3, 201214 yr A Liriano for Diamond trade sounds fair. Billy Bullock? Yes, I'm kidding, but it kind of makes you choke, doesn't it?
July 3, 201214 yr I'd chop off my arm to get Christian Bethancourt, but that's a bit too rich for for ATL to give up.
July 3, 201214 yr I'd chop off my arm to get Christian Bethancourt, but that's a bit too rich for for ATL to give up.Bethancourt's hitting just .253/.276/.281 in AA this season in 49 games. He has not had an isolated discipline above .025 since 2009. I'd probably want to see some marked improvement in both his plate discipline and power before dismembering myself.
July 3, 201214 yr I wonder just how reasonable it would be for the Twins go get one of those top 3 guys. I would think that the Braves would need to be outmaneuvered for some of these other guys and need to feel like they had to respond to another contender. Boy, I'd be really happy with any of them.Agree. I can't imagine that anything above a AA prospect would be an option for Liriano. Having said that, those listed seem promising.
July 3, 201214 yr Bethancourt's hitting just .253/.276/.281 in AA this season in 49 games. He has not had an isolated discipline above .025 since 2009. I'd probably want to see some marked improvement in both his plate discipline and power before dismembering myself.ATL has pushed him agressively, hell he's only 20 year old playing at AA. The athleticism behind the plate is there and I believe in the end he'll hit enough to be a damn fine catcher. Maybe not a star, but an cheap cost controlled everyday catcher as it looks like Mauer being a full-time catcher is over.
July 3, 201214 yr There's been a lot of chatter linking Greinke to the Braves, but clearly the price is quite a bit steeper for him. They just might decide to roll the dice on Liriano instead.
July 3, 201214 yr I hate the Braves so as long as we totally fleece them I'm good with whatever. But no thanks on Gilmartin.And why on earth would you "hate" them?
July 3, 201214 yr Bethancourt's hitting just .253/.276/.281 in AA this season in 49 games. He has not had an isolated discipline above .025 since 2009. I'd probably want to see some marked improvement in both his plate discipline and power before dismembering myself.Yet every scout you talk to says he's the best catching defender they've ever seen and compare the bat very favorably to Yadier Molina, who really didn't bring any real power until he was in the majors, either.
July 3, 201214 yr There's been a lot of chatter linking Greinke to the Braves, but clearly the price is quite a bit steeper for him. They just might decide to roll the dice on Liriano instead.The Greinke interest has been in acquiring him while extending him, a la Santana to the Mets. Otherwise, they aren't willing to pay much in prospects for a rental, according to Frank Wren's recent local and national interviews.
July 3, 201214 yr My post on this would be that the Minor/Liriano thing would fly all day if it was proposed on both ends, I think. Gilmartin is on the way as a Minor clone in the Braves organization, and Minor on the way was why Diamond was traded to the Twins. I could definitely see that being a possibility. Otherwise, guys like Teheran and Delgado will be saved for a guy they want to re-sign for 2013 and beyond as Brandon Beachy will be back in mid-2013 and money continues to fall off their books to have good money to invest in a starter if they feel the need rather than trading the farm for one.
July 3, 201214 yr Teheran is literally untouchable. He has ridiculous potential that the Braves have zero intention of trading away. It would also be a moonshot to pry away Minor and Vizcaino. All of these guys are extremely unrealistic for Liriano which is what you hinted at being the most likely deal. And it is, since the Braves shouldn't have any interest in Morneau or Span.Otherwise I'm fine with the article, John. I just think "Potential Trade Targets" should be guys who could actually be traded.
July 4, 201214 yr Teheran is literally untouchable. He has ridiculous potential that the Braves have zero intention of trading away. It would also be a moonshot to pry away Minor and Vizcaino. All of these guys are extremely unrealistic for Liriano which is what you hinted at being the most likely deal. And it is, since the Braves shouldn't have any interest in Morneau or Span.Otherwise I'm fine with the article, John. I just think "Potential Trade Targets" should be guys who could actually be traded.Hmmm. Not exactly on point. Vizzy is pretty much untradeable, but Minor has worn some welcome in Atlanta away, much like Liriano in Minnesota. Teheran is also not untouchable anymore. He's had some struggles on and off the field this year that has knocked him down a peg. Heck, check out the fall he had in the recent midseason top 120 that Sickels released. He's still a VERY high level prospect, but the untouchable status has come down.
July 5, 201214 yr Ive seen C Evan Gattis linked to Twins in a possible Liriano trade. Very good hitter w/power but more of a DH prospect...ala JMontero
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