Chris Colabello Watch

[Brock Beauchamp]

Colabello crushes mistakes but struggles when MLB pitchers execute. It's a great story but the Twins shouldn't be criticized for their handling of him. Even putting aside his MLB performance in 2013 and 2014, the Twins have young guys they need to play in LF and DH... there just wasn't a role for him with this club.

Yep. Great story, not a fit for this team. Imagine how irritated this fanbase would be if Colabello was playing and Vargas was in the minors.

[stringer bell]

Maybe slightly off topic, but did anyone notice who was playing the other corner for the Blue Jays yesterday?  Danny Valencia, that's right, Danny Valencia.  Valencia is hitting .361 in 36 ABs and has played eight games in the outfield.  I think the Blue Jays must believe the "corner OF defense doesn't matter" meme.

[Rosterman]

It's stuff like this will prolong his career. He definitely makes more playing AAA ball (actually, he got 40-man roster pay this off-season). Yes, he gave up money to play abraad, but he is living the major league dream. Who knows, he can always end his career with a year in Asia, if that time ever comes. Right now, glad to see him back in the bigs and living a dream after making a success at AAA.

[Minniman]

 

Interesting, because I started this thread. I didn't know mods could swipe the thread I made, then insert their own post as the first post. Didn't know that was even possible... now I know otherwise. Wow. 

 

I think THIS webmaster might be a funny person.

 

 

I hope not.

 

Anyway, Chris' line tonight: 4-4, 2B, RBI.

Nice start thru 2 games: 6-8, 2 2Bs, 2 RBIs. Guy can legitimately rake.

 

 

Last year, I was sad when I saw his line for games, as I thought he had a chance to do well.

 

Then again, many Twins prospects played far worse at the Major League level for various reasons.

[Patrick Midthun]

Game 4: 

0-2, BB, R

 

Game 5: 

3-4, RBI

 

Season stats (5 games): 

10-18, HR, 2 2Bs, 4 RBIs.

[twinsnorth49]

Colabello with a big dinger in the bottom of the 9th tonight, but made a crucial (and brutal) error in RF earlier costing 2 runs.

 

Weird seeing him interviewed on the TSN national sports feed, they're kind of enamored with him.

[Twodogs]

Well it seems like he had a stretch with the Twins where he did quite well also, but I also remember the crappy months too.

[LeatherAntenna]

Look what he is doing now! MVPStats

[LeatherAntenna]

2 for 4 today with a walk, guy is a hitting machine. For the weekend 6 hits, 2 HRS three extra base hits, on base 8 of 13 times in 19 games 8 have been multi hit games. So who would be better at first base on the Minnesota Twins? And cost a bit(big) less?

[Minniman]

.386 AVG

3 HR

10 RBI

.449 OBP

1.040 OPS

 

19 games ... 8 walks and 22 strike outs.

 

Swing away!

[Thrylos]

Career high .522 BABIP (with his norm being around .310) and 39.2% O-Swing (about 10 points higher than previous years,) will crash-land this one when it regresses...

[LeatherAntenna]

No question he is a free swinger. But BABIP will be an interesting watch. His norm of 310 includes 2/3 of his games last year that he hid injury. It might be more interesting to look at/ compare his stats this year vs April 1-23 last year and see how similar they might be. His spray chart is up the middle or weak side dominant and suggests to me that even as a free swinger pitchers have not found a serious hole in his swing other then pitching him out of the zone.

[old nurse]

Toronto is becoming Twins Territory. Collabello, Tolleson, Valencia, Hendricks, Albers and stretching it Dickey. Another former Twin farmhand, Bobby Korecky pops up every now and then, too.

[Patrick Midthun]

His bat speed is legit. It would certainly be nice to plug that .379 BA into our lineup. Too bad he had to crush a go-ahead, two-run homer in the 9th against us tonight.

[Minniman]

Well, ... Collabello made the Twins pay.

 

Justin Morneau, Chris Colabello, David Ortiz ... how many ex-Twins will play better after leaving?

[blindeke]

 

Well, ... Collabello made the Twins pay.

 

Justin Morneau, Chris Colabello, David Ortiz ... how many ex-Twins will play better after leaving?

 

Morneau shouldn't be on that list. He peaked with the Twins, and stayed there for years.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Well, ... Collabello made the Twins pay.

 

Justin Morneau, Chris Colabello, David Ortiz ... how many ex-Twins will play better after leaving?

In his first 83 PAs of 2014, Colabello had an OPS of .962 and then was injured.

 

This season he has 93 PAs and an OPS of 1.029.

 

Good for Chris Colabello. I wish him the best... but on a team as full of DH and OF prospects as the Twins are today, he has no place on the 25 man roster. Sometimes, you have to release the guys you kinda like but don't fit where the team is going. Colabello is one of those guys.

[LeatherAntenna]

In his first 83 PAs of 2014, Colabello had an OPS of .962 and then was injured.

 

This season he has 93 PAs and an OPS of 1.029.

 

Good for Chris Colabello. I wish him the best... but on a team as full of DH and OF prospects as the Twins are today, he has no place on the 25 man roster. Sometimes, you have to release the guys you kinda like but don't fit where the team is going. Colabello is one of those guys.

. You may regret this post if he does more game winning damage to the twins the next two days.

 

As you indicate, as a healthy player he has a very healthy OPS , and the two points in time combined are a 355 avg, and a 25 Hr 120 RBI full season pace. Now where exactly would that not fit on the Twins roster, much less anyone's roster?

[Brock Beauchamp]

. You may regret this post if he does more game winning damage to the twins the next two days.

 

As you indicate, as a healthy player he has a very healthy OPS , and the two points in time combined are a 355 avg, and a 25 Hr 120 RBI full season pace. Now where exactly would that not fit on the Twins roster, much less anyone's roster?

I won't regret that post one bit.

 

Until two weeks ago - and sure to be the case again in the near future - the players who would lose playing time to Colabello are Oswaldo Arcia and Kennys Vargas.

 

No thanks. I'd rather watch the 24 year olds with upside than a 30-something journeyman.

[Minniman]

 

I won't regret that post one bit.

No thanks. I'd rather watch the 24 year olds with upside than a 30-something journeyman.

 

Like Chili Davis?

 

The Twins keep looking toward the future, but a hot bat right now would be nice.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Like Chili Davis?

 

The Twins keep looking toward the future, but a hot bat right now would be nice.

Sure, a hot bat would be nice but the Twins needed to clear space for the young players who had to be added to the 40 man (and more will need to be added as the season progresses), not add more clutter and take playing time away from their young players.

 

Who should the Twins have exposed to waivers: Pinto or Colabello? Because that's what this boils down to at the end of the day. Roster management is a zero sum game.

[LeatherAntenna]

Sure, a hot bat would be nice but the Twins needed to clear space for the young players who had to be added to the 40 man (and more will need to be added as the season progresses), not add more clutter and take playing time away from their young players.

Who should the Twins have exposed to waivers: Pinto or Colabello? Because that's what this boils down to at the end of the day. Roster management is a zero sum game.

like to think we are arguing two different things, two different Colabellos. Agreed he is a journeyman if his avg and production tail off to a basic 270 hitter with 270 journeyman production. Or if he does turn out to be a Roy Hobbs type, and plays the rest of the year at or near the top of the batting race and with the stunning slugging and OPS he currently has, I don't think you mind having him batting before Vargus or Arcia. Besides he isn't the only player that blocks powerful youth. For instance there is a different guy who is 6'5" 230 pounds that hits a lot of pretty singles but is absent deep production camped out at first base.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Roy Hobbs was a fictional character for a reason; he's basically a unicorn.

 

Mauer being in decline and a potential obstacle for younger players doesn't mean you double down by keeping Colabello. All it means is that you have even LESS space for a guy like Colabello.

 

Who should the Twins have waived or kept off the 40 man in favor of Colabello? This argument is easy in the abstract; it's much harder when you have to choose just 40 players to keep going into the season.

[LeatherAntenna]

Mauer even if you have to pay half his salary to do it. With the 11.5 million saved buy a top shelf starter and some other pitching prospects. The starter does make you move another pitcher down but that is a nice situation to be in.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Mauer even if you have to pay half his salary to do it. With the 11.5 million saved buy a top shelf starter and some other pitching prospects. The starter does make you move another pitcher down but that is a nice situation to be in.

Now you're just being silly.

 

1. The Twins have to pay Mauer's entire salary no matter what happens. He has a no trade clause. Teams can't decide to just stop paying players because they don't want them anymore. This isn't the NFL.

 

2. You just said the Twins should waive a borderline HoF player for a 30-something journeyman on a three week hot streak, a guy whose defensive value is somewhere between "Delmon Young", "Josh Willingham", and "LOL".

[LeatherAntenna]

Didn't know Mauer had that much control of his contract. Still I wonder why Mauer wouldn't want a change in scenery at this stage of his career. Your second comment is logical if he isn't Roy Hobbs like. I do agree logic and probability does say you are right about Colabello that it is fiction he could be Hobbs. But it is fun to imagine he is, and the imagination is stocked from time to time when they show his hits, he just squares up so well on the ball hitting line shots all the time. He typically doesn't get cheap hits, except his hit yesterday was a cheap one.

[Brock Beauchamp]

For all intents and purposes, Mauer has complete control over where he plays.

[Craig Arko]

Speaking of imagination, how 'bout this squad?

 

http://www.denofgeek.us/books-comics/marvel/89420/25-superhero-baseball-roster-the-marvel-excelsiors

[biggentleben]

 

Didn't know Mauer had that much control of his contract. Still I wonder why Mauer wouldn't want a change in scenery at this stage of his career. Your second comment is logical if he isn't Roy Hobbs like. I do agree logic and probability does say you are right about Colabello that it is fiction he could be Hobbs. But it is fun to imagine he is, and the imagination is stocked from time to time when they show his hits, he just squares up so well on the ball hitting line shots all the time. He typically doesn't get cheap hits, except his hit yesterday was a cheap one.

 

Major league baseball contracts are 100% guaranteed once they are signed. The player is getting the money no matter what. Baseball has had 10/5 rights for years and years.

[JustinCB]

Didn't they take Hendricks too? Their aaaa twins envy is kinda weird.