Article: Twins Minor League Report (AFL Week 2): The Rosario Show Continues

[Mike Sixel]

Why May? You don't worry about service time with RP. I don't understand that at all.

[Seth Stohs]

Jake Reed has pitched 36 innings in his pro career and given up only 1 earned run, and the Twins want to do what?  Stash him somewhere in the minor leagues because they have three more years before they have to protect him from the Rule 5.

 

Watch the World Series and see what the Royals do with their 1st Round Pick this year.

 

Man.  No words for that kind of thinking.

 

I'm pretty sure I never suggested that. I was just pointing out where each was. I fully expect Burdi to be up in 2015. Reed has a chance, but remember he was a 5th round pick. The Twins wouldn't send him to the AFL if they didn't think he could be close. But I'd still put it at less than 50% because he's got a long way to go. 

[Seth Stohs]

What you are saying here is true, I guess what rubs me the wrong way is service time seems to be the deciding factor over who can help out the club. 

 

Burdi was taken 46th and many  mocks had him going 21 to the Tigers. He is probably a better comp....if we follow the same service time logic he won't be up for a few years.   That would be a poor choice in my view.  Same with Reed, regardless of where he is drafted IF he puts up simlar numbers as he moves up.  Service time should not be a huge factor for a college reliever.

 

Again, my point was not to at all say that service time as anything to do with promoting them, at least not for relievers. It was just to illustrate where they all are relative to needing to be added to the 40 man roster. Twins need, number of options ahead of them that they need to pass, etc., will have a bigger part in that decision.

[bird]

What you are saying here is true, I guess what rubs me the wrong way is service time seems to be the deciding factor over who can help out the club. 

 

Burdi was taken 46th and many  mocks had him going 21 to the Tigers. He is probably a better comp....if we follow the same service time logic he won't be up for a few years.   That would be a poor choice in my view.  Same with Reed, regardless of where he is drafted IF he puts up simlar numbers as he moves up.  Service time should not be a huge factor for a college reliever.

Service time seems to be the deciding factor over who can help out the club? I'm not aware of a single case that affirms this statement. I suppose we could find some anecdotal cases that might suggest service time was a FACTOR. How did you reach this conclusion?

 

Burdi may be up in 2015, certainly not in "a few years", and service time won't even enter into the Twin's thoughts about the timing, if you ask me.

[tobi0040]

Service time seems to be the deciding factor over who can help out the club? I'm not aware of a single case that affirms this statement. I suppose we could find some anecdotal cases that might suggest service time was a FACTOR. How did you reach this conclusion?

 

Burdi may be up in 2015, certainly not in "a few years", and service time won't even enter into the Twin's thoughts about the timing, if you ask me.

 

The question was "what are the odds of these guys making it to Target Field next year".  Seth responded:

 

Personal opinion and obviously a lot of variables, but here is my uqick thoughts on percent likelihood they play in the big leagues in 2015:

 

Byron Buxton - 80% (doesn't have to be on 40 man roster for another year)

Eddie Rosario - 80% (will be added to 40 man in November)

Max Kepler - 20% (2nd of 4 option years)

Taylor Rogers - 45% (doesn't have to be added to the 40 man roster for another year)

Jason Adam - 25% (could be added to 40 man roster in November)

Zack Jones - 50% (doesn't have to be on 40 man roster for another year)

Jake Reed - 35% (doesn't have to be on the 40 man roster for 3 more years or so)

 

I guess I misunderstood the point of adding the 40 man consideration next to each player.  It seemed like that was a huge factor.

[Steven Buhr]

I can understand getting that impression. Whenever we mention the 40 man roster implications, it implies service time as a factor.

 

I do think, though, that it is a non-issue for elite level players who have avoided missing significant time with injuries. In particular, I can't see it being a factor with Burdi and Reed, assuming they continue to perform as they have.

 

It's hard to watch the Royals and not get pretty excited for the possibility of seeing a similar lock-down bullpen in Minnesota not too far down the road.

[tobi0040]

I can understand getting that impression. Whenever we mention the 40 man roster implications, it implies service time as a factor.

 

I do think, though, that it is a non-issue for elite level players who have avoided missing significant time with injuries. In particular, I can't see it being a factor with Burdi and Reed, assuming they continue to perform as they have.

 

It's hard to watch the Royals and not get pretty excited for the possibility of seeing a similar lock-down bullpen in Minnesota not too far down the road.

 

Yeah, they flashed their record when leading after 6 innings. Something like 65-9.  Crazy.

[SwainZag]

I'm heading down to the Phoenix area tonight and right now it is in the plans to go see the Rafters take on the Desert Dogs tomorrow.  If I make it to the game I will be sure to snap a few pictures and give some analysis.

[Steven Buhr]

I'm heading down to the Phoenix area tonight and right now it is in the plans to go see the Rafters take on the Desert Dogs tomorrow.  If I make it to the game I will be sure to snap a few pictures and give some analysis.

And it appears that I will be down there next week to catch games Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Don't use up all the nice weather while you're down there.

[stringer bell]

Another productive day for Rosario:  2/4 with 3 RBI and 2 SB.  He continues to lead the AFL in hitting at .435 and is second in steals (8).  Despite only one XBH, Eddie is tied for fourth in RBI (10).  Buxton had two singles and a run scored and Kepler had an RBI double and a walk in 4 PAs.  Reed pitched a 1-2-3 inning, but Zack Jones walked three batters while retiring only one. 

Edited October 24, 2014 by stringer bell

[SwainZag]

I'm sitting behind home plate. Buxton tracked down a nice fly in right on the warning track to end the 2nd. He got up in the 3rd hit a nice line drive single to center and then stole 2nd easily. Rosario not in the lineup.

[jokin]

I'm sitting behind home plate. Buxton tracked down a nice fly in right on the warning track to end the 2nd. He got up in the 3rd hit a nice line drive single to center and then stole 2nd easily. Rosario not in the lineup.

 

Thanks for the update.  Gamecast said he hit a screamer to 3rd for an out leading off the game, too.

 

Please share more, if you have the chance.  Jason Adam is first up on the reliever schedule.

[SwainZag]

Thanks for the update.  Gamecast said he hit a screamer to 3rd for an out leading off the game, too.

 

Please share more, if you have the chance.  Jason Adam is first up on the reliever schedule.

I missed his first AB. Buxton struck out in his 3rd at bat. Completely fooled on an inside curveball. Adam started the 6tg, got two groundouts, including a great diving play by Casteel. Gave up a single in a line drive over the 2nd basemen then strick out the last batter on a low inside breaking pitch. He is really imposing on the mound.

 

On a side note, Mark Appel is sitting in the section right next to me, signing a lot of autographs.

[SwainZag]

I missed his first AB. Buxton struck out in his 3rd at bat. Completely fooled on an inside curveball. Adam started the 6tg, got two groundouts, including a great diving play by Casteel. Gave up a single in a line drive over the 2nd basemen then strick out the last batter on a low inside breaking pitch. He is really imposing on the mound.

On a side note, Mark Appel is sitting in the section right next to me, signing a lot of autographs.

After pulling a ball that almost left the park down the left field line but went foul, Buxton sliced a ball down the right field line that was fair by 5 feet or so and bounced over the wall. It was a sure triple for sure, he was flying around 1st. RBI double anyways. 2-4, 2B, SB and RBI so far.

[SwainZag]

After pulling a ball that almost left the park down the left field line but went foul, Buxton sliced a ball down the right field line that was fair by 5 feet or so and bounced over the wall. It was a sure triple for sure, he was flying around 1st. RBI double anyways. 2-4, 2B, SB and RBI so far.

After the double he stole 3rd on a close play and eventually scored. His 5th AB on a 1-0 count he hit a hard liner through the hole between 3rd and SS, good for a single.

[stringer bell]

Buxton had his best day, nice to see.  As long as he's not striking out a ton, I'm not too worried about his AFL stats, but it is always better when your top prospects excel.

[jokin]

After the double he stole 3rd on a close play and eventually scored. His 5th AB on a 1-0 count he hit a hard liner through the hole between 3rd and SS, good for a single.

 

Buxton had his best day, nice to see.  As long as he's not striking out a ton, I'm not too worried about his AFL stats, but it is always better when your top prospects excel.

 

It will be nice to see him build on this and parlay it to even more frequent days like today where he dominates the stat line, as the AFL winds down.  Is there any info on Buck looking at getting time in winter ball somewhere?

 

Good to say Jason Adam up his game a little, as well.

Edited October 24, 2014 by jokin