If we are going to trade Santana, it should be for at least one young, controlable pitcher. Otherwise, good ideas for trades.

If we are going to trade Santana, it should be for at least one young, controlable pitcher. Otherwise, good ideas for trades.

Trades that focus on positions rather than upside are ill-advised, IMO. 

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1. Absolutely Not! Way too much to give up

2. Probably a no as well, if we are gonna trade Santana, we don't need another SS, I would much rather trade for a Catching prospect or pitching. I know you need to accumulate talent but we have to start thinking about our future roster, especially if you're getting guys close to the majors

3. Maybe, I don't really know what weakening our BP situation for a guy who is only 19 does for us, especially considering our potential BP disaster post Kinzler. I like Kinzler and I think if we become sellers he would be on the short list to net a good return but I'm not sure I'm on board with the proposed trade.

4. Yes, I do that trade tomorrow. Goodrum is most likely not part of our future and I don't see him contributing much beyond a bench utility guy and Neshek would help with our BP problems that have plagued us all year. He might not be part of the future plans but it wouldn't cost too much either

Trade posts are my favorite. Thanks for putting this together!

Kintzler trade:  Couldn't / shouldn't the Twins get more than a single, 19 yr. old lefty with only 1 year and 13.2 innings pitched?  

Like the idea of adding Stroman.  Not sure you'd be able to convince Liriano to work outta the bullpen.  

Bird may be out of the trade discussion for Santana.  From the Post:  "on June 20, received a cortisone shot in the right ankle that had been bothering the first baseman since the last week of spring training."  Like the idea of adding Mateo.

Niko Goodrum to the Philadelphia Phillies for RHP Pat Neshek:  YES, about 100 times.  Shore up the bullpen for this year and next.

Nice work writing it up. Sadly the only trade that would benefit the Twins is the Neshek deal and Philadelphia wil get way more than that for him with relief pitchers always being a premium at the deadline.

I like them all. Let's do this now. The more we are content sitting on our hands waiting for prospects to hit their peak the more our window turns to early to mid 2020's I think. We must remember how long it takes for a prospect to get acclimated to the majors. Rarely do they come in and dominate right away. Berries was kin of an advanced pitcher for his age and he took a whole season almost to hit his stride. Gonsalves and Romero become regulars next year. Maybe?!?! All of a sudden we're looking at 2019 now barring any injuries or developmental setbacks. We've got our core now. Let's add in some pitching and start going for it next year!

I like the idea of getting Stroman, but that's a hefty price to pay (not unrealistic I might add, just noting that it's expensive and one I'd have a tough time stomaching)...  Not sure I like the pieces in the Yankees trade, though by sending Gordon away, getting a similar piece back would be nice.  I would be going hard after a guy like Justus Sheffield. Effectively, you're trading Santana, Kirriloff, Romero, and Blankenhorn for Stroman (replacing Gordon in the Yankees trade).

I like the Kintzler and Neshek trades. Ultimately, I'm not sure the team is better in 2017 though. They did get younger in swapping Santana for Stroman, but they still have a rotation of Stroman, Berrios, and Mejia with not much else.

Liriano as a bullpen arm is something to consider. But at what salary price. But at this point I would rather trust that the four prospects in the trade will be major contributors to the Twins in 2019/2020.

Of course would trade Niko Goodrum in a second for Neshek. Niko is one of those fringe guys that won't be protected. But his worth to the Phillies would only be if they could play him, otherwise he walks himself after the season. Pat, I think, might feel he has one more solid multi-year contract in him. But being with the wrong team for the rest of the summer could hurt him rather than help him, not that he has a choice of trading partners.

Can the Twins live without Santana? Sure. They free up money. But the logjam the Yankees trade would present the Twins...well, it wouldn't be a logjam if they just leave some of the logs to rot on the bank. You wouldn't need Vargas or Park anymore, not that anyone is knocking down the door to get them. It solves the Mauer problem in a year, maybe, but what ARE the Twins going to do with Joe? Would we really be mad if the Twins traded him (and ate some of his salary). Not that we have anyone in the wings that we are dying to see at first base (bring back Morneau!

All I can say regarding Kintzler is to listen and listen and take the best that you can get. Don't see the Twins giving him longterm money. Not sure if he would even close for any of a number of teams that would trade for him. And if you traded him, you could always come back at him on the free agent market if you saw fit (and considering that you really don't have a closer anyways). But you aren't going to give him a qualifying offer. And you aren't going to pay him closer money. Let him go elsewhere and revisit in the off-season. You can play musical chairs the rest of the season (Pressly, Hildenberger, hey Jake Reed). And you know that Perkins wants to give you at least one GREAT appearance before 2017 ends.

I'm not really sure if the Twins can ADD to their roster with the prospects that they might have available, and if it truly is worth it Ihis there an offense player who will put butts in the seats. Is there a pitcher not named Colon of Gee that will excite us every four days? 

I worry that Santana won't continue. That pitches (especially the bullpen) will start to wear and the Twins won't be playing musical 40-man chairs correctly. Pretty much all the young promising arms will have met their innings goal come the years end, so we will see the mops ups looking for a contract in the coming year.

I just wish ANY of these free agents/minor league free agents were notable enough to trade for a possible non-protected prospect to give the Twins some depth. But don't even see that.

Santana and Kintzler are wanted. Escobar could be had. Maybe someone wants Giminez. I don't see a market for any return better than anyone might've given you in the off-season for Dozier, so you better start thinking "long-term contract." 

Mateo and Bird are both high risk. For Mateo, attitude, position and K rate, and health for Bird. It would be good to get at least one prospect who is more likely to make it in exchange for Santana. Perhaps Chance Adams?